dmcoco84 5 #101 June 14, 2012 QuoteNot sure what the Youtube flick is supposed to prove, the thread is about immigration laws...... not voter ID. ...says the man who can't stay on topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #102 June 14, 2012 Brilliant response Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #103 June 16, 2012 I know, here in Texas, local law enforcement will apprehend illegal aliens and contact Border Patrol to come get them. Most often, local law enforcement is given some weak excuse that Border Patrol 'just can't get over there so go ahead and cut them loose'! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #104 June 25, 2012 SCOTUS decision announced. Most of law reversed, some parts upheld. content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/06/-supreme-court-strikes-down-most-of-arizona-immigration-law/1#.T-h23RdsOf4... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #105 June 25, 2012 Meanwhile Governor Brewer claims 'victory". QuoteToday’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court is a victory for the rule of law. It is also a victory for the 10th Amendment and all Americans who believe in the inherent right and responsibility of states to defend their citizens. After more than two years of legal challenges, the heart of SB 1070 can now be implemented in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #106 June 25, 2012 I always like posting the source, when possible: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-182b5e1.pdf The whole opinion is itself pretty interesting. The dissents were interesting in that they opined that the sections of the law that were overturned by the majority did not conflict with federal law. In a sense, they called on Congress to make a statement that states have no business doing anything about immigration. On the other hand, the majority held that Congress has limited what states can do with regard to immigration policy and AZ's overturned laws did not fit within these defined subjects. This opinion painted the subjects as pretty fine lines and I cannot say that either side got it wrong. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #107 June 25, 2012 QuoteMeanwhile Governor Brewer claims 'victory". QuoteToday’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court is a victory for the rule of law. It is also a victory for the 10th Amendment and all Americans who believe in the inherent right and responsibility of states to defend their citizens. After more than two years of legal challenges, the heart of SB 1070 can now be implemented in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. Right, 3/4 of the law overturned is her definition of "victory".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #108 June 25, 2012 meanwhile - Arizona Sheriff Arpaio: "We'll continue to enforce laws despite the Supreme Court's ruling" this guy is gonna be in court with the Feds for a looooong time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #109 June 25, 2012 Quote meanwhile - Arizona Sheriff Arpaio: "We'll continue to enforce laws despite the Supreme Court's ruling" this guy is gonna be in court with the Feds for a looooong time. Well, isn't his enforcement point the 1/4 that is still a law? ON a radio show an office neighbor listens too a speaker talked about how "they" sued to get the part tossed the SC upheld, not the 3/4 they did toss. But, my question is how do I prove I am a citizen? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #110 June 25, 2012 QuoteThe court voted 5-3 to reject the parts of the law that: Make it a state crime for illegal immigrants not to possess their federal registration cards; Good. QuoteMake it a crime for illegal imigrants to work, apply for work or solicit work; Isn't it already illegal for an illegal to work in the US? QuoteAllow state and local police to arrest illegal immigrants without a warrant when probable cause exists that they committed "any public offense that makes the person removable from the United States." This is disagree with. Basically the Fed is saying the State cannot arrest a person for being in the Country illegally. So they are saying only the Fed can arrest for a Federal crime, and the State can't make a law making a Federal crime also a State crime. And all of this would not be needed if the Fed was actually doing something about illegal immigration. This whole thing seems to remind me of the old debate about the dust bowl.... The central US was getting destroyed by terrible farming practices. The Federal Govt didn't show any concern until a dust storm hit DC and the people running from the area created a problem. In this case the Fed is ignoring a problem that is having a major impact on the border States. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #111 June 25, 2012 Quote But, my question is how do I prove I am a citizen? Don't worry Matt... I'm sure you haven't done anything wrong... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #112 June 25, 2012 That depends...do you LOOK like an illegal??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #113 June 25, 2012 In the summer and fall, I get called "Mateo" a lot. So maybe. But still how does one prove that? What ID do I carry every day that says that on it? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #114 June 25, 2012 What proof of identification does your State require before issuing a drivers license? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #115 June 25, 2012 The Florida answer is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #116 June 25, 2012 http://www.tn.gov/safety/driverlicense/classd.shtml You will see why I asked the question. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #117 June 25, 2012 If we keep pointing this out, someday someone will understand this IS the Federal ID Program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #118 June 25, 2012 Quote If we keep pointing this out, someday someone will understand this IS the Federal ID Program. You might have to spell it out a bit for them. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #119 June 25, 2012 Quote But, my question is how do I prove I am a citizen? Matt www.flickr.com/photos/joao/3527970382/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #120 June 25, 2012 And the Administration pushed back! What they've announced is that ICE won't cooperate with the feds, unless there is an illegal immigrant who is wanted for a felony. What's that mean? The part of the law that was approved - that police can check the status of an arrestee or a person stopped - is useless because the Administration has said they won't go make the arrest, nor will they allow Arizona law enforcement to make the arrest. So what the Admin did was strip AZ's law of any enforceability. If a person is here illegally and a cop figures it out, no dice. The cop cannot detain him/her and ICE won't show, either. Why do I get the feeling that this is an "up yours" to Arizona from Napolitano? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #121 June 25, 2012 Quote Why do I get the feeling that this is an "up yours" to Arizona from Napolitano? I don;t care what Dawnmarie says about you. You're pretty sharp... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #122 June 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteMeanwhile Governor Brewer claims 'victory". QuoteToday’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court is a victory for the rule of law. It is also a victory for the 10th Amendment and all Americans who believe in the inherent right and responsibility of states to defend their citizens. After more than two years of legal challenges, the heart of SB 1070 can now be implemented in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. Right, 3/4 of the law overturned is her definition of "victory". We'll probably see a similar statement on Thursday when the ruling on ObamaCare is released. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #123 June 25, 2012 I'm no lawyer (but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night). Isn't there a motion that asks an entity to explain why they are not enforcing the law?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #124 June 26, 2012 QuoteI'm no lawyer (but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night). Isn't there a motion that asks an entity to explain why they are not enforcing the law? I think that was pretty much addressed in Kennedy's written opinion for the court.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #125 June 26, 2012 QuoteI'm no lawyer (but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night). Isn't there a motion that asks an entity to explain why they are not enforcing the law? It's a writ of mandamus. Basically, a mandatory injunction requiring an official to act. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
