brenthutch 444 #76 April 12, 2012 "I'm a person who doesn't care much about the messenger. I'll still take a look at the message. " Normally that would be true, but when someone has gone so far out on a limb that a graceful retreat is no longer possible, there is nothing left other than ad homonym attacks on the messenger. The other alternative is not acceptable to one with a large albeit VERY fragile ego. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #77 April 13, 2012 QuoteI'm a person who doesn't care much about the messenger. I'll still take a look at the message. Right, when OJ Simpson tells everybody how to create an decent relationship with your ex-wife, I am sure you will be all ears. Or Madoff's dissertation on business ethics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #78 April 13, 2012 Good point. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #79 April 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteI'm a person who doesn't care much about the messenger. I'll still take a look at the message. Right, when OJ Simpson tells everybody how to create an decent relationship with your ex-wife, I am sure you will be all ears. Or Madoff's dissertation on business ethics. Or Jack Abramoff's treatise on the corruption of lobbyists. oh wait a second. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Punishment_%28book%29 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #80 April 15, 2012 blogs.redding.com/dcraig/archives/2012/04/overcoming-clim-2.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #81 April 15, 2012 Quoteblogs.redding.com/dcraig/archives/2012/04/overcoming-clim-2.html "Obtained a B.A. in Journalism and a Doctorate in Psychology." Yes it does look as if he has all of the credentials needed to be a climate scientist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #82 April 15, 2012 QuoteQuoteblogs.redding.com/dcraig/archives/2012/04/overcoming-clim-2.html "Obtained a B.A. in Journalism and a Doctorate in Psychology." Yes it does look as if he has all of the credentials needed to be a climate scientist. He's not actually pretending to do science in the way that you do. He's being a journalist, which, as you point out, is an area in which he is qualified.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #83 April 15, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteblogs.redding.com/dcraig/archives/2012/04/overcoming-clim-2.html "Obtained a B.A. in Journalism and a Doctorate in Psychology." Yes it does look as if he has all of the credentials needed to be a climate scientist. He's not actually pretending to do science in the way that you do. He's being a journalist, which, as you point out, is an area in which he is qualified. Please educate me as to when I claimed to be a scientist. However, since you broached the topic, I do have a BA in political science (not to mention my MBA). And since AGW is more politics than science I am actually quite qualified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #84 April 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote>I was reading the incidents forum and a guy commented that only a >whuffo's story made sense with the evidence. Yep. That's why I said "often" and not "always." >Sometimes an outside eye is a good thing because experience causes >preconceived ideas. Other times experience is necessary. Of course. But when it comes to talking about skydiving fatalities at Skydive Arizona - and how to prevent them in the future - are you going to listen to a whuffo who saw a fatality, or Bryan Burke? "More from climate scientists at NASA's Goddard institute: The six scientists from NASA‘s Goddard Institute for Space Studies report finding what they describe as;unexpected significant disagreements......As a result, the bottom line for the NASA scientists is quite succinct: Our new results suggest that the current knowledge of the global distribution of the AOT and, especially, aerosol microphysical characteristics remains unsatisfactory. And since this knowledge is indispensable for use in various assessments of climate and climate change, ; it would appear that current assessments of greenhouse gas forcing of climate made by the very best models in use today are deficient." These are James Hansen's guys!?? Link http://heartland.org/sites/default/files/01%20Climate%20Models%20and%20Their%20Limitations.pdf Which peer reviewed journal published that? Heartland is a joke, but I'm sure you know that. From an editorial in Nature: "Despite criticizing climate scientists for being overconfident about their data, models and theories, the Heartland Institute proclaims a conspicuous confidence in single studies and grand interpretations....makes many bold assertions that are often questionable or misleading.... Many climate sceptics seem to review scientific data and studies not as scientists but as attorneys, magnifying doubts and treating incomplete explanations as falsehoods rather than signs of progress towards the truth. ... The Heartland Institute and its ilk are not trying to build a theory of anything. They have set the bar much lower, and are happy muddying the waters." Heartland also denies a link between tobacco use and health. www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute_and_tobacco Do you mean this journal Nature? "As the respected US scientist Judith Curry put it last week, talking about another seemingly flawed paper published by the same journal: “Nature seems to be looking for headlines rather than promoting good science.” It could serve as an epitaph for the way that journal has been promoting this cause for 20 years." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/9204223/In-the-eyes-of-Nature-warming-cant-be-natural.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #85 April 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteblogs.redding.com/dcraig/archives/2012/04/overcoming-clim-2.html "Obtained a B.A. in Journalism and a Doctorate in Psychology." Yes it does look as if he has all of the credentials needed to be a climate scientist. He's not actually pretending to do science in the way that you do. He's being a journalist, which, as you point out, is an area in which he is qualified. Please educate me as to when I claimed to be a scientist. However, since you broached the topic, I do have a BA in political science (not to mention my MBA). And since AGW is more politics than science I am actually quite qualified. HA ha very funny. PoliSci is where the students who can't hack real science end up. Well, that and journalism.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #86 April 16, 2012 QuoteHA ha very funny. PoliSci "Political Science" the study and application of subjective, arbitrary advocation of monetary power structure leveraging illogical and emotionally based psychological manipulation of uninformed large masses of people the term "science" is seriously having a lot of heartburn ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #87 April 17, 2012 Man made global warming: the study and application of subjective, arbitrary advocation of monetary power structure leveraging illogical and emotionally based psychological manipulation of uninformed large masses of people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #88 April 17, 2012 QuoteMan made global warming: the study and application of subjective, arbitrary advocation of monetary power structure leveraging illogical and emotionally based psychological manipulation of uninformed large masses of people so by transitive rule you are implying that man made global warming is a political effort, not scientific ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #89 April 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteMan made global warming: the study and application of subjective, arbitrary advocation of monetary power structure leveraging illogical and emotionally based psychological manipulation of uninformed large masses of people so by transitive rule you are implying that man made global warming is a political effort, not scientific Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
