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The left are the ones assassinating their opponents like modern Bolsheviks. I'm not even going to count the cheerleading and happy claps for these incidents. Get on a Reddit thread or Bluesky and you'll see countless justifications of violence. "I bet he was a nazi" "if he wasn't at the rally he wouldn't have died" "They have insurance". Even worse the left routinely eats their own and excommunicates people. I'd be worried just because you can never be too left. What Shibboleth will you violate and end up a target? I will acknowledge some of them, on both the right and left, fall probably more on the mentally ill side and are a case of "choose the form of your destructor" where the mentally ill person uses whatever the TV screens say as the justification. Kirk is going to turn out to be more political violence but I'll keep that one off the official list until official motive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_immigration_detention_center_attack https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/us/luigi-mangione-diary-entries-murder-case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Capital_Jewish_Museum_shooting https://nypost.com/2025/06/27/us-news/college-student-accused-of-torching-teslas-is-facing-stiff-federal-prison-sentence/ https://nypost.com/2025/04/07/us-news/trans-nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale-ranted-about-wanting-to-kill-all-the-white-kids-in-newly-revealed-diary-entries/ https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2020/09/03/vice-plans-to-air-interview-with-oregon-man-confessing-to-killing-at-portland-protest/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_immigration_detention_center_attack https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-york-mourns-loss-nypd-officers https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Florida https://abc7chicago.com/post/more-than-100-buildings-damaged-at-least-40-destroyed-in-kenosha-unrest/6402998/ https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/riots-cost-property-damage Older ones https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-york-mourns-loss-nypd-officers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Donald_Trump_Las_Vegas_rally_incident See rhetoric like this on this forum:
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Hi Bill, Lest any of us forget: The Nazi's first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak for me. Rev. Martin Niemoeller Jerry Baumchen
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In all seriousness, how does one access the videos of Charlie being cruel and rude or expressing hate or whatever? FWIW, I disagree with rather a few of his conclusions, but haven't stumbled across any that support the fascist, Nazi or other allegations that have been made. Admittedly, I haven't watched a lot of his stuff, but made it far enough through a few videos including him to guess that his schtick was consistent. Whenever I ask for evidence that there is a Mr. Hyde to the Dr. Jekyll, all I get is hand waving. If someone can provide a link, it's appreciated.
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Turning Point USA(TPUSA) is an American nonprofit organization that advocates for conservative politics on high school, college, and university campuses. It was founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk "TPUSA is also beginning to get involved in far-right filmmaking. In September 2022, the group released “The Enemy Within: FBI Whistleblower,” which features right-wing conspiracy theorist John Guandolo, who has demonized the FBI and promoted anti-Muslim tropes. In the film, Guandolo encourages people to take the law into their own hands and promotes ideas similar to those expressed by the anti-government Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, whose followers believe “the county sheriff is the ultimate authority in the county, able to halt enforcement of any federal or state law or measure they deem unconstitutional.”... "TPUSA has ties to a range of right-wing extremists and has generated support from anti-Muslim bigots, alt-lite activists and some corners of the white supremacist alt-right. Kirk has created a vast platform for extremists and far-right conspiracy theorists, who speak and attend his annual AmericaFest and other events sponsored by TPUSA. AmericaFest has showcased extreme rhetoric from speakers and attendees and has attracted white supremacists. In 2021, the Arizona Mirror reported that AmericaFest attracted far-right figures like Grayson Arnold, who has posted pro-Nazi and antisemitic memes and was photographed at the event with the then-GOP Arizona Chair Kelli Ward. The event also featured Kyle Rittenhouse, who was acquitted of killing two people protesting the killing of a Black man at a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and became a cause celebre in far right and conservative circles At the 2022 AmericaFest, held again in Arizona, far-right provocateur Steve Bannon riled up the crowd by asking the audience if they were at war, referring to them as an “awakened army” and asking if they were ready to destroy the deep state." "Kirk also called for retribution against his political opponents, who he claimed are “acting like Stalinists,” and said “we must make them pay a price and a penalty” by indicting Democrats. “They crossed the Rubicon,” Kirk claimed. “They have declared quote-unquote the Roman Civil War.” ..".In late March, Turning Point USA’s Charlie Kirk repeatedly told his audience that they must take action against a demonic and tyrannical force that is targeting them for their conservative political views. ...He went on to say " “The country we grew up in has ended, a new country is born. Who’s going to control it? If we want it, we can win.” In the same March 31 episode, while introducing an interview with Donald Trump Jr., Kirk told his listeners, “You should be angry today. And this is a time for action, and this a time to realize that the country we love has slipped away and we have to get it back.”
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Hi Mark, This might be why: The Nazi's first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak for me. Rev. Martin Niemoeller Jerry Baumchen
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So much generalization, and not smidgen of corruption. I'm left to believe your like Bill, and wouldn't recognize a Conservative if I bit you on your Ass. So Into your delusions of grandeur we go, again,just throw your shit into the air and see who it falls on. I'll follow your lead. I Know...We destroy democracy, we're the Nazi's.We're the Racists.We're the Proles. So stupid are we. I tried to shave with an Occam's' razor. I'll admit we're the simple folks that believe in our Natural immunity, and see no reason to risk ourselves or children's safety with an experimental Vax....or that Anti-Darwinist Ideology, the New Academic delusion. Since I'm not a Professional,I'll simply use one. I'll assume You take personal offense, that's to bad.You shouldn't unless you're teaching that horseshit.I don't want us to go ugly, so you give me little choice other than to agree context free, in your last line. "It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance" "There are few things more dishonorable than misleading the young."Not since the days of the Hitler Youth have young people been subjected to more propaganda on more politically correct issues. At one time, educators boasted that their role was not to teach students what to think but how to think. Today, their role is far too often to teach students what to think on everything from immigration to global warming to the new sacred trinity of 'race, class and gender.' T.S. https://www.city-journal.org/article/los-angeles-schools-are-funding-for-failure Phill did you ever find that Gem in "The Intro to CRT"? While i admire our adversarial role play,I need to tell you that I'm actually a fan.You suggested a scientific site that piqued my curiosity years ago AGW 1991 that started me on a journey. It took me weeks to go thru its three layers. Never having any intentions of being apart of the scientific academic Class,I simply never gave it any thought. Thank you, I now see everyday a new adventure into the unknown of unknowns. This may give you an alternative {nonpartisan} perspective or She simply one of those illiterate conservative folks.
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Hi Joe, You nailed it: The Nazi's first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak for me. Rev. Martin Niemoeller Dietrich Bonhoeffer - Wikipedia Jerry Baumchen
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In Utah, the pushback against LGBT people intensifies. HB77 is now being voted on (and will likely pass.) It is a bill that is intended to ban Pride flags in classrooms - and is now being expanded to ban them in all government buildings. The relevant language is: "Any employee of a government entity within a classroom of a school within the public education system, may not: (a)display a flag in or on the grounds of government property . . . (3)The prohibition described in Subsection (2) does not apply to the following flags: (i)a historic version of a flag described in Subsections (3)(a) through (h) that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes." (3a-h describes all flags except Pride and similar civil-rights flags.) Also, any staff member who takes down Pride flags is protected - "the attorney general shall defend and the state shall indemnify and hold harmless a person acting under color of state law to enforce this section for any claims or damages." Thus Confederate flags and Nazi flags are legal to display. Pride flags are not. Indeed, the sponsor of the bill confirmed this very point when asked about it: “There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War. You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags … as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”
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Yes indeed. It’s just ironic that Winsor so desperately wants to come across as an intellectual yet has the least interest in actually understanding anything of any regular contributor to this forum. Like his take on German politics is as if he walked into an upmarket neo-Nazi meeting (you know like the ones Peter Thiel goes too) and blindly believed the first thing someone told him about how Hitler came to power. Even Rich Ravizza is more capable of saying something original and unexpected than Winsor the MAGA parrot.
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The highest support that the National Socialist party ever received was about 37%(1932). Similar to Trump's support today. Both Hitler and Trump realized that support in the cities would not materialize and moved to the rural areas to hold power. Both use violence and intimidation to hold power. For both Hitler and Trump theatrics plays an important role. "Two years later, in the election year of 1932, by which time the National Socialists had grown to be a major, albeit minority, force in German national politics, the biggest event of the year in the East Prussia region around Thalburg was a speech by Hitler himself. The Nazi Party arranged for trains to bring people in from all over the region. It was going to be an open-air meeting with seating capacity for 100,000 people, scheduled to begin at 8 in the evening. The seats were all filled by early afternoon. When Hitler’s plane flew overhead just before 8, there was a roar of “Heil!” from the swastika flag– and handkerchief-waving crowd. The impression was of a surging movement. But at the time, dues-paying National Socialists in Thalburg numbered only 40 souls." Trump is following an old play book. From the book: Who Voted for Hitler? by Richard F. Hamilton, no pun intended.
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Hi folks, Expect more of this with the advent of MAGA 2.0: Biden condemns 'sickening' neo-Nazi march in Ohio Looks like they are not as brave as they would want us to think: masked men shouting racial slurs and carrying swastika flags Jerry Baumchen
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Tucker Carlson, long sympathetic to far-right and white nationalist causes, actually went too far for conservatives with his gushing admiration over a Nazi historian. This week Carlson posted an interview with Darryl Cooper, who Carlson describes as "the best and most honest popular historian in the United States." His area of specialty - World War II. Some insights from this paragon of honesty and scholarship: "Churchill was the chief villain of World War II” Concentration camp deaths were just "a result of poor logistics in caring for starving refugees." It is not the Nazi's fault that "people who are surrendering or people they’re rounding up . . . ended up dead." In fact the gas chambers were humanitarian. "“Rather than wait for them all to slowly starve this winter, wouldn’t it be more humane to finish them off quickly now?” Hitler wanted peace but Churchill wanted war - Hitler "didn't want to fight" On his blog, Cooper posted a picture of Hitler on the left, and a picture of the opening pageant for the 2024 Olympics on the right, with the caption "this may be putting it too crudely for some, but the picture on the left is infinitely preferable to the picture on the right. Tucker asked probing questions during the interview, including this gem: "If Churchill is a hero, how come there are British girls begging for drugs on the streets of London today?” Musk, of course, posted "very interesting . . . worth watching." Now this is nothing new to Carlson who has previously sympathized with white supremacists. But it seems like even republicans have a limit on how much Nazism they will accept. Conservative radio host Erick Erickson: “Didn't expect Tucker Carlson to become an outlet for Nazi apologetics, but here we are." Senior director of the evangelical Dobson Culture Center: “I am trying to believe my ears, because on Tucker Carlson's respected podcast I just heard these immortal words: ‘I read about Churchill, and he strikes me as a psychopath. Who *on earth* is Darryl Cooper, and how did he get this platform?” Founder of the conservative outlet Compact Sohrab Ahmari: “I can't get over this. The claims made. The fact that Tucker saw fit to lend this guy an uncritical platform. The fact that Elon recommended the interview. This sector of the right is sinister. I'll stop saying ‘they've lost their minds.’ No, it's worse than that.” Babylon Bee owner Seth Dillon: “Tucker's guest: The Holocaust was an unfortunate logistical problem. The Nazis ran out of space for prisoners. Nobody wanted to kill all the Jews. Except maybe Churchill, that dastardly terrorist. Tucker: Finally, an honest historian willing to tell us the truth.” National Review writer Jonah Goldberg: “I’ve known Tucker for 30+ years. For most of that time, if I told him he’d become this guy one day, he’d have laughed, cursed me out, or punched me. This is just sad. It’s pathetic whether he’s doing it sincerely or as a grift.”
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Hi Wendy, 'But, yeah' is absolutely correct. Trump is slowly, but surely beginning to control the media. This, along with the other dark web sites, is what can sink democracy in this country. I have been saying for years, that things are similar to the Third Reich in the 30's. The Nazi's first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak for me. Rev. Martin Niemoeller Jerry Baumchen PS) Bill, keep speaking up; we need to hear this stuff.
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The groundwork is being laid to oust Trump. The reporting on his health concerns is ramping up and he’s losing support of the hard core racists. My money has been on JD taking over, I had anticipated it being after midterms, but I’m prepared to say it will be by the years end now. Miller and Co need the Nazi support to continue their agenda.
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Wow. When a neo-Nazi and white supremacist thinks you are too amoral to be president. . . .
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Hi Joe, Once again, Trump proves that he is bat-shit crazy: Right-winger influencer and podcast host Nick Fuentes has famously dined with Donald Trump. However, the two are buddies no more because Fuentes shredded Trump on his most recent podcast. “And now he says if you are not on board with the Epstein coverup I don’t want your support,” Fuentes said. “You’re a weakling. (Expletive) you. (Expletive) you. You suck. You are fat. You are a joke. You are stupid. You are not funny. You are not as smart as you think you are. And honestly, and if you watch my show, you know I’ve been very critical,” he continued. “I’ve never been this far. This just goes to show this entire thing has been a scam. When we look back on the history of populism in America, we are going to look back on the MAGA movement as the biggest scam in American history. The Liberals were right. The MAGAs were had. They were. “When we look back in history, we will see Trump as a scam artist.” In another clip, Fuentes again went off on Trump saying he doesn’t want the support of people questioning the Epstein files. “I don’t want their support anymore … well, fine, you don’t get anymore,” he said. “Nobody should vote for Trump. Nobody should vote for Republicans. And what needs to happen next by the way, the Republicans must be hanged in the midterms. That’s what must come of this. Trump must (expletive) pay for this statement. To say, ‘I don’t want your support anymore.’ Every single Trump supporter, every single Republican needs to say, OK, bet. You don’t want our support, forget about the midterms. Forget it. The 2026 midterms, it just needs to be a Democrat avalanche at this point. And that’s not because I’m a Democrat. I’m not. I don’t like the Democrats. I hate the Republicans more because the Republicans are traitors. Because I have voted for Republicans. I have supported Republicans and they (expletive) on our face.” Social media was stunned to see the blistering takedown from Fuentes. “Wow, Trump even lost to Nazi’s,” one person wrote on X. “Why do I have to be aggreging with this horrible person on a Thursday morning,” another wrote. “MAGA is imploding over the Epstein scandal,” the Republicans against Trump account on X wrote while sharing video of Fuentes. This all comes a day after Trump again lashed out at supporters for questioning his administration’s handling of the Epstein files. “The Radical Left Democrats have hit pay dirt, again!” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Just like with the FAKE and fully discredited Steele Dossier, the lying 51 ‘intelligence’ Agents, the Laptop from Hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia (No, it came from Hunter Biden’s bathroom!), and even the Russia, Russia, Russia, scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide Crooked Hillar Clinton’s big loss in the 2016 Presidential Election, these scams and Hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at — It’s all they have — They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates. “Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue,” he continued. “Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.” Trump was not through. “I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax,” he wrote. “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking about our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” It was Trump’s administration and Attorney General Pam Bondi who made a spectacle of the release of part of the files in February, inviting MAGA social media influencers into the White House and handing them binders before posing for a photo opp. Those binders were labeled “The Epstein Files: Phase I,” and for the most part they were heavily redacted and contained information that had already been reported. President Trump’s name was in those documents, however, as he appeared seven times in the flight logs. Also, previously reported to be on the Epstein flight logs, per Newsweek, were the likes of former president Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew of England, Naomi Campbell, David Copperfield, Leonardo DiCaprio, Cameron Diaz, former vice president Al Gore, Stephen Hawking and Bruce Willis. Traveling on Epstein’s plane does not mean that anyone committed a crime, though. Also in February, Bondi was asked about the Epstein client list while on Fox, and she said, “It’s sitting on my desk right now to review. That’s been a directive form President Trump. I’m reviewing that.” But Bondi reversed course last week, with Trump by her side, and said there would be no client list release. And, after MAGA, which had been promised for months that heads would roll when the files were released, began to call for her to be fired, Trump first lashed out over the weekend. “What’s going on with my ‘boys’ and, in some cases, ‘gals?’” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and ‘selfish people’ are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. “For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again,” he continued. “Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 ‘Intelligence’ Agents, ‘THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,’ and More? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called ‘friends’ are playing right into their hands. “Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files?” he continued. “If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. WE are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. “We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY,” he continued. “The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, RADICAL LEFT inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HERE JOB — SHE’S GREAT. The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to the same thing in 2024. That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more. “One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the ‘HOTTEST’ Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!” It sure looks to me like he is running scared. Jerry Baumchen Donald Trump ripped by Nick Fuentes: ‘(Expletive) you. You suck. You’re fat. You’re a joke’ - oregonlive.com
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/keith-self-quotes-joseph-goebbels-nazi-congress_n_67ed7d19e4b0b937ab8f59d5 Nothing alarming at all about a republican senator quoting a nazi propagandist on the role that the government should play in the media.
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In 1931, American journalist Dorothy Thompson interviewed Hitler. She thought little of him; a not very intelligent man with an obviously evil plan. The German people would not be fooled, she decided. “Imagine a would-be dictator setting out to persuade a sovereign people to vote away their rights!” she wrote, bemused by his foolishness. She was expelled by 1935, “in light of your numerous anti-German publications." She had become the enemy; the press. In 1937, she wrote about her experiences in Germany: “No people ever recognize their dictator in advance…. He always represents himself as the instrument for expressing the Incorporated National Will. When Americans think of dictators they always think of some foreign model. If anyone turned up here in a fur hat, boots and a grim look he would be recognized and shunned…. But when our dictator turns up, you can depend on it that he will be one of the boys, and he will stand for everything traditionally American.” In 1941 it became clear that the US would have to enter the war at some point - and the Nazis were the people we would be fighting. But how could the sensible, rational Germans she knew from her time in Berlin turn into Nazis? Who does that? “It is an interesting and somewhat macabre parlor game to play at a large gathering of one’s acquaintances: to speculate who in a showdown would go Nazi,” she wrote. “By now, I think I know. I have gone through the experience many times—in Germany, in Austria, and in France. I have come to know the types: the born Nazis, the Nazis whom democracy itself has created, the certain-to-be fellow-travelers. And I also know those who never, under any conceivable circumstances, would become Nazis . . . . .Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi. But the frustrated and humiliated intellectual, the rich and scared speculator, the spoiled son, the labor tyrant, the fellow who has achieved success by smelling the winds of success—they would all go Nazi in a crisis. Those who haven’t anything in them to tell them what they like and what they don’t—whether it is breeding, or happiness, or wisdom, or a code, however old-fashioned or however modern - go Nazi.” Later that year she observed that the man Hitler no longer really mattered; it was what he represented, the chance to save Germans and make Germany great again. “Chancellor Hitler is no longer a man, he is a religion. My offense was to think that Hitler is just an ordinary man, after all. That is a crime against the reigning cult in Germany, which says Mr. Hitler is a Messiah sent by God to save the German people…. To question this mystic mission is so heinous that, if you are a German, you can be sent to jail. I, fortunately, am an American, so I merely was sent to Paris. Worse things can happen….” (parts taken from Heather Richardson Cox's latest column)
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The election will almost certainly happen if not with absolute certainty. In the history of the republic since George Washington was elected, US presidential elections have never been canceled, and I genuinely don't see how 2028 would be any different. One of the worse case scenarios I could see is that the election becomes "less democratic" and more "controlled", which could signal that the US is indeed on the path to a dictatorship, but it would most likely be a slow process. That being said, I believe things will get a lot worse before they get better with all the Trump & Musk & DOGE stuff. Resistance against the Trump Administration has started everywhere - people are speaking up and protesting, states are filing lawsuits, judges are blocking Trump's orders, and there are internal conflicts among Republicans on various issues. It's really easy but also deeply understandable to have a "doom and gloom" attitude. Heck, I was reading some news about the "Nazi Salute" at CPAC the other day, and I even hypothetically thought about what I would do personally if I were living in Nazi Germany 2.0. In the meantime, I have been learning about human emotions recently, and emotions pretty much always come before logic. People tend to react emotionally first and use logic later, and this is especially true on social media. The thing I've been taught - and am trying to do - is to use both emotion and logic to form a more balanced perspective, which is why I want to choose intentional optimism. Current American democractic institutions are being tested, but it's not hopeless.
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Well, I don't think Elon should be involved in politics at all and am completely opposed to anything that even closely resembles a nazi salute. I am of an age where my parents served during Korea and had great Uncles that served during WWII. Anything Nazi or Commmunist goes against the grain.
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Comparing political figures to Hitler has a long and ignominious history in the US, and has been overused so much that there's actually an Internet law about it; Godwin's Law states that if an online discussion goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will make a comparison to Hitler. Earlier, the philospher Leo Strauss had spoken of a very similar logical fallacy: reductio ad Hitlerum. The problem, of course, is that that means that if there IS a politician that proposes (for example) to exterminate a race of people, and people compare them validly to Hitler, no one takes any note of that. Just another Godwin attack. Comparisons of Trump to Hitler initially fell afoul of Godwin's law, because there really wasn't much similarity between a mealy-mouthed reality TV star and Hitler. Just another Godwin violation! Trump was something of a joke anyway. But lately the parallels have been getting scarier, and none other than Mike Godwin has written editorials stating "this time the comparison is valid." I just listened to an interview with Timothy Ryback, author of "Takeover: Hitler's Final Rise to Power." Ryback is an historian, and he wrote this book not by going through historical records, but by reading contemporary accounts of the time (newspapers, meeting minutes, pamphlets) so he could get a better sense of how this happened from the perspective of the people living through that time. He never mentions Trump in the book. But the parallels are astounding. While Hitler was building his power, he regularly used Polish immigrants (who were pouring across the border due to unrest in Poland) as a scare tactic. During this time, two Germans brutally tortured and murdered a few Polish immigrants; the Germans were sentenced to death for their crimes. Hitler decried that, and stated that if he were elected "never would a foreign life be put above a German" again. He made up bizarre stories to enrage and infuriate his party. He claimed that German children were being sold as sex slaves to foreign countries, and claimed that this was required by the Treaty of Versailles. (Pizza had not been invented yet, so no pizza places were involved.) His stated goal with this sort of disinformation was to "hollow out the middle" - remove the moderates and drive them to one of the two camps, so that he could frame his quest for power as a choice between only two options. Hitler regularly vowed to destroy democracy through democracy; he promised to use the mechanisms of democracy to destroy the right of the people to govern. He planned to give himself more power if he was appointed chancellor. He was very open about this, but the German people assumed he was just making speeches. "The soup is hotter during the cooking than during the eating" was a popular German phrase, indicating they thought that Hitler would calm down once he was in power. It is noteworthy that he almost didn't make it to the Chancellorship. Due to his profligate spending and his lack of respect for the law, he was often in court in the years leading up to his chancellorship. He didn't mind this; he used the courtroom as a pulpit, and one of his fellow Nazis once said that every time Hitler went to court he got another 1000 votes. The justice system was closing in on him, for his crimes, his unpaid debts and for his refusal to pay taxes. His only chance to avoid jail was to do what he did - become chancellor and suspend civil rights and the justice system. His campaign was based largely on vengeance - against the Treaty of Versailles, against the Communists, against Hindenberg and his other perceived enemies. Even his own people became enemies once they crossed him, or told him that maybe perhaps he was being a little racist. "Once I'm in power, heads will roll," he told several of his supporters. And roll they did. Hitler could not get any support with just the Nationalist party behind him, so he allied with the Socialists (and specifically with socialist leader Gregor Strasser) to get a larger percentage of the electorate. Even with that, the best he ever did was 37% of the vote. He publicly supported the Socialists but privately detested them. Strasser was a big socialist - an anti-capitalist polemic of his caused Hitler to repudiate him at the 1926 Bamberg Conference. He was briefly elected to the vice-chancellor position while Hitler was rising to power, but retired when he could no longer stomach the changing Nazi goals. Then, in 1934, Hitler had Strasser arrested and executed for being a socialist. He could not do this alone, of course. Maintaining his bizarre claims of sex slavery and victimhood required a media apparatus. And that came in the form of Alfred Hugenberg, a media mogul who had his sights on world domination as well. At first Hugenberg and Hitler couldn't stand each other, but once Hugenberg realized that Hitler was rising in power, he allied himself with him. At that point Hugenberg owned the Scherl publishing house, the news agency Telegraphen-Union, several newspapers and the Universum-Film-AG (Ufa), a major film producer. This let him churn out not only news about the evil Polish immigrants and the child sex slavery thing, but also publish glowing articles about "Hitler at home" "Hitler with children" and most importantly "Hitler as a victim of the evil Europeans." This went a long way towards steering public perception about Hitler. Hitler took every opportunity to "gum up the works" of government when he could through his position as one of the leaders of the Nazi party. The worst provisions of the Versailles Treaty were due to end in two years, and there was a movement to delay the passage of new laws until that time, so that they would be passed in a less reactionary environment. Hitler did everything he could to push as many new laws through as possible, often with conflicting goals that he could then use them to show how dysfunctional government was. The Nazi party, according to Ryback, thrived on political chaos and economic despair, and worked hard to provide that environment. The president at the time - Otto Hindenberg - was elderly, and Hitler's media apparatus spent quite a bit of time attacking him for being senile, doddering, and sleepy. Hitler could not attack him directly since he still needed his support. A month after he was appointed Chancellor, there was a fire at the Reichstag, the seat of government for Germany at the time. When police arrived, they found Marinus van der Lubbe, a Dutch council communist, leaving the building. The fire chief, however, saw Nazis fleeing the fire, and found evidence that they had in fact started the fire. The fire chief was then arrested and assassinated by the Gestapo. Hitler used this "attack by the Communists" to issue the Fire Decree which suspended civil liberties in Germany and allowed Hitler to start eliminating his political opposition. And of course there are the growing similarities in their speeches. Trump speaks of "poisoning the blood" of America with immigrants; Hitler spoke of "The rats that poison our body-politic gnaw from the hearts and memories of the broad masses" and that "this poison was allowed to enter the national bloodstream and infect public life without the Government taking any effectual measures to master the course of the disease." Trump talks about how "we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country" - and Hitler said he "the right to eliminate millions of an inferior race that multiplies like vermin." Trump: "The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within." Hitler: "Never in our history have we been conquered by the strength of our outside enemies but only through our own failings and the enemy in our own camp." Finally, in a speech in 1940, Hitler said that the various German political factions could be "blended into one strong new idea to carry new strength which would make Germany great again." It's not funny any more.
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Hi folks, Here is your future: FBI director says agents arrested judge for obstructing immigration operation The Nazi's first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak for me. Rev. Martin Niemoeller Are you next? Jerry Baumchen
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To the Germans of the Nazi era, the Jews were guilty. Wendy P.
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What does the left Know about memes, your good for a cartoon or two. But the meme breaks down with your Nazi insinuation and the definition of innocences.LOL Yatzee rallies at MSG and planes to gas chambers, you really need a new angle. Perhaps your a reincarnation and you were born again in the wrong time,Or a good case of 420. Either way let the dog piled begin. Since American politic seems to be your thang. You set yourself up. This lineup is impressive as well as the message let me know if you find one. Let me know what type of music you prefer. On the vine, you fight on,you fight on.
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What makes you say that? Let's look at reality vs just one of your claims here: On 2 May 1933, Nazis stormtroopers raided trade union buildings throughout Germany. Union leaders were abducted, imprisoned, and tortured. And union assets and properties were seized. Independent trade unions were replaced with a Nazi-controlled German Labour Front, which served as a propaganda tool for the regime and its hate-filled ideology. The Nazi ban on free trade unions not only deprived workers of collective bargaining and representation, it also removed a bastion of democracy and freedom that stood in the way of the Nazis’ total control over German society. It was an early step in their rule of terror and antisemitism. https://www.tuc.org.uk/blogs/ninety-years-nazi-ban-free-trade-unions-lessons-remain-relevant-us-today It would seem like you don't have the first clue about politics or history. I mean for fuck's sake, it's even in Niemoller's poem - "Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist" What possessed you to write something so ignorant and so wrong?
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