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The first time I can find Jo spewing the registration book story was July 1, 2003 at suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/history_of_flight/67842/40-49 good ol homes4ubyjo There she just went ahead and said Duane's prints were on the registration..I have no idea how she knew that, but at least she's bright enough to not say that twice! Jo, if you want to have any credibility, just say this statement by you is utter nonsense...or you could try a Putin/airspace explanation. Jo said: "because the FBI will never follow the leads I have given them -- like the night clerk and the registration form that the FBI took. That registration has Duane's fingerprints on it but they won't go thru the file to find it. I have also been told that they probably returned it after checking out the clerks story. They don't return that kind of evidence in this kind of story --- it is there somewhere in the research they have." I have a chainsaw with Duane's prints on it, but I'm not talking. I guess I'm also really wondering why 377 is supportive to Jo. What am I missing? It seems like it's giving dollar bills to the guy on the intersection. Yeah you feel good, but you should feel bad cause it's just going to buy a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20

Ah it makes sense now. They took the registration cause they were looking for Collins. No, they took it because the guy said Collins matched the composite they had on thanksgiving day. We all know what that composite looked like, right Jo....No they took it because they took all the hotel registers in the area. Hey that would be fun. Better than my normal life. Spent the day chainsawing a 95 year old oak. Now that makes one humble. For the husky vs stihl question: husky. Probably the only thing interesting about Jo's story: why the heck did Himmelsbach giver her more than 5 minutes of his life? It's like the fact that H. gave her some time, gives Jo some credibility, when there's nothing there. That and no one has really called her on any of the bullshit for 13 years. If I didn't know better, I'd say H. propped Jo up as part of some coverup. She's perfect.

Story's still pretty lame Jo. You left out the part where they grabbed the register and put it in a plastic bag. When did that happen? and why? I would think the rational thing might be that the FBI guys might have followed up on the guy, like they did a bazillion others, and found nothing. I can imagine a man of the right height was checked into that hotel, and in fact there were probably multiple men like that in all hotels in the area. Statistically likely. How many of them had Tom Collins to drink and were also named Collins? Dunno. Does it matter? Does it matter that Rick Webber worked the Cooper case in '71? (edit) in re-reading your post, it seems like no actual Tom Collins was drunk? I read the post you just made. What part of it is "unique" or odd. I don't get it. (edit) are you weighting the later/recent composite "recognition" somehow? I would weight that as zero. (edit) I'm confused about the whole Collins drink tie-in. Was the guy's name Tom Collins? Or John Collins (tom collins made with bourbon). If a "John Collins" checked in, what triggered a conversation about drinks? Are you saying the guy's name was Tom Collins and the night clerk made a comment about the drink as a result?

It's just reality that we have little info about the FBI investigation. (my note about Rick Webber is (mostly) true though. Apparently still alive. Be interesting to interview agents who worked the case in '71. I found a web site with a contact for Webber) I tend to assume that back in '71 there really wasn't much of an investigation. A real investigation would have gathered all hotel records in the area of PDX and maybe SEA too. At the time of the data gathering, there would be no reason to suspect any particular name. So there'd be no reason "Collins" would stick out. The night clerk in question would have had to remember everyone that stayed that night, and then said "Ah-hah..Collins I remember that name" when he heard Jo mention John Collins many years later. Very unlikely. Note the current Rodeway Inn at PDX is not the Rodeway (if there was one) that would have been there in '71. So unclear how large a business. Also very unlikely that the FBI had any secret reason to suspect John Collins in '71, or even shortly after that. Jo, can you confirm the date of this supposed record gathering? In any case, you can see my two points. If there was a good investigation, data on all hotel records in the area, from that night/week would be in the files somewhere. If it's not findable, well, then either the investigation wasn't good, or it was lost. But getting all worked up about Jo's story..you can see it doesn't make sense. What I really wish the FBI had were pay phone records from PDX that day. No cell phones. Reasonable chance Cooper may have made one last call to someone. (edit) rental car records would have been another interesting thing. Himmelsbach recounts a story of a rental car that didn't get returned for a long time or something like that. The way H. tells the story of how they resolved that lead, it makes it sound like they weren't proactive in searching rental car stuff, more reactive. Goes with my thinking the investigation was just reactive to leads, not proactive, much?

If I was telling the night clerk story, I would have said a FBI agent who said his name was "Rick Webber"...looked to be in his mid-30's, picked up the register. He seemed like a new guy, like he hadn't been in the FBI that long, said he was a "Special Agent". See then, you'd check out those verifiable facts, and amazingly see they were true. And wonder how the heck did he know that? Therefore the whole story must be true. It's even better that the name matches an alias Duane used. Just because of the bizarreness of it. Obviously I wouldn't put that in, unless it was true, because it sounds so bogus right? If you're going to tell a story, at least be good at it, is what I figure.

I saw that show too and had a similar reaction. From my experience in law, I can tell you that even honest people make HUGE GIGANTIC FUNDAMENTAL errors in recalling facts. Time erodes memory accuracy and simultaneously attenuates doubt, so people often get distorted memories long after events have occurred but are increasingly sure that they are 100% accurate. I agree on your take on what the agent told Jo. I dont see any acknowledgment or confirmation that the FBI actually did take the register. Ckret says the files do not show anything about it. I do think Ckret is highly motivated to solve the case and if the register info were available, he'd pursue it. 377 377, I think it's simpler than this. Lots of people appear to have yanked Jo's chain over the years. Jo doesn't use much of a truth discrimination filter. She posted an extract of email from the night clerk before. I include it below. It seemed obvious to me, the way it was worded that it was just some other jerk or nut job. When witness email betrays excitement! and exclamation point! and I'm with you! ...then you start to wonder. The reason Jo never publishes everything she has, is because when you see it, it's obviously crackpot stuff. Jo posted on April 2, 2008 11:14 PM xcerpt of Email from Night Clerk Subj: Re: (no subject) Date: 1/17/2008 Dear Jo, I enjoy reading the excerpts from skeptics who were not there to give 'credence' to matters they have no first hand knowledge of. There was a registration card signed by " D B Cooper ". The name on that card was "------------" . I may have been only a 27 year old at that time but I still have a very good memory of that incident because of the 'questioning' that I received by the investigators involved that following evening when I came to work. My mind is as good now as it was then because I have kept it that way. I support you in your quest and have seen nothing as yet to doubt or question your evidence or my belief in that evidence as related to the facts as I know them to be true! (edit) Jo intro'ed the above with the following, claiming she had other stuff she could post. She never posted any more third party stuff. Go for it now Jo! Light 'em if you got 'em! "I hope you guys will find this interesting as I am tired of trying to tell the FBI anything: If you do then I have other information from 3rd parties that I can post."

yeah, we do have a tendency to look at a few things, say Cooper wasn't a diligent planner, and then try to extend that to the stuff that seems like planning, saying "coincidence". Hard to decide. It's interesting that 305 was probably the last flight to leave PDX for SEA, that would arrive before 5. (I'm assuming the schedule was not much different 11/24/71 then shown on the 8/1/71 timetable) If we say Cooper planned things, then he had a delicate balance to resolve. He probably had to start the hijack before the banks closed? So before 5. Otherwise he would give the FBI a reason to delay things? (saying "banks are closed") Five was just when it was starting to get dark, roughly. If he wanted a twilight/night jump, close to SEA, and not spend a lot of time on the ground or air, then the jump had to be sometime just after 5, at the earliest. If the jump/hijack was planned to be later, he'd either have arrived at SEA too late for the banks, or be in the air (or on the ground) too long after getting money from the banks. Planned to be earlier, and it wouldn't be dark yet. And, assuming he wanted a 727, he had to be on a 727. We don't know the relative frequency of 727's yet, on legs that met the criteria. And he did mention 5 as a time deadline in his demands. So he might have thought about 5 before the hijack started. If he had just come up with the idea during the hijack, he might have said a relative delay? (like "within 2 hours") ??? (edit) And then throw in the oddity that flight 305 didn't meet the above requirements, on 8/1/71, but apparently did on 11/24/71. No Northwest flight did, on 8/1/71? There was a mid-afternoon "dead zone" in the 8/1/71 timetable.

yeah, I only emailed the website guy. No answer either. Guess I have to look for other ways. I did notice one thing on his site. He mentioned different categories/kinds of timetables. The main one for collectors is the general "system" timetable that has everything. But he pointed out that smaller regional schedules are sometimes also printed. We know 305 was on the 8/1/71 system timetable. So you would think there wouldn't be "extra" information that existed only on a regional timetable. I would think the "system" timetable, should always be a superset of any smaller things printed. But it's something to keep in the back of our minds. Another interesting thing in the 8/1/71 timetable is that it has some phone numbers and locations for getting tickets..i.e. not thru a travel agent and not at the airport? Made me wonder why Cooper didn't call ahead for getting or reserving the ticket. I know you think not, but maybe he did just walk up to the counter and take the next flight. Why not call ahead, or get the ticket ahead of time?

Ckret: I know I've posted a lot of drivel recently, but the flight timetable does raise some questions. I know there was a lot of convoluted detail that was posted. But the main question is: Is there anything in the case file where the itinerary for flight 305 was investigated? Specifically 1) when it started including stops in Missoula, and 2) when it added the leg from PDX to Seattle. It had to be between 10/1/71 and 11/24/71, unless there was a special regional schedule. The PDX to SEA leg is interesting because it's the last leg of a long itinerary for 305. Was that part of a plan to get a 727? or was it just random..i.e. it happened to be the next flight when Cooper walked up to the ticket counter. Also: was there any comparison done on the full Northwest schedule out of PDX, to understand how often 727's were used? I'm guessing the other predominant plane used was 707. We've guessed that the 727 was by choice. I'm wondering if most of the flights out of PDX, to SEA at least, were 727, or whether this angle was ever investigated. Nowadays, most of the flights from PDX to SEA are United and Alaska Air, and are small jets. Back then, I don't think smaller planes were used for the short hops, but I don't know.

thanks for adding some detail with your prior post. Question: If he was jailed as John Collins, they obviously didn't know about his record as Duane Weber, right? So I don't know why you persist in making the commutation sound out of the ordinary. It sounds like it was an ordinary reduction in sentence in MO. Am I missing something? Was he a 6 time offender as John Collins (at what?) before being imprisoned in MO? Feedback: as a reader of your writing, it seems you have a habit of leaving out stuff, when it can make your story sound grander...i.e. let the reader fill in the blanks, (who will assume the worst)... I recognize it, because that's what I do, when I want to make some crazy post. Do you think the other people in prison with Duane had similar backgrounds, or different? LSD? (you asked)

you mean "not even", right? good set of posts, georger. Interesting that if all the goals were achieved on the first step out of the plane, and that only problems would be created by pulling the rip, then yeah. Arguably the plan was for simultaneously achieving failure and success...i.e. if the motives involved self-defeating personal behaviors, they would display in the hijack also? Typical "failures" leave traces. Marriage, home, job etc. The possible Cooper failures mentioned so far seem lame (aviation employment loss). Did Cooper's "failures" actually leave traces, and they just weren't noticed because investigators were looking in the wrong place? Or were they traceless failures...things only Cooper would identify. Or were they just common? Things that just were part of society's background noise?

Hi Orange1. I know I post a lot, but don't you remember how I said it was a myth that Cooper was the first US domestic hijack where the hijacker asked for money? The first one was a year earlier and the guy's "grudge" was a tax case..i.e. a grudge against the government. Can search back in my posts for "tax". It was Barkley. I posted a news article with the post. snip here: 2) Another interesting case, which was apparently the first where the hijacker received money. was 1970, not a jumper. He was a nut job. Arthur G. Barkley, June 4, 1970 had a tax grudge ($471). Demanded $100 million. Apparently the first where they actually gave a hijacker money? They gave him $100,750 Not a jumper (note before Cooper) (edit) Barkley news article attached again

Hi Orange1 agreed. I'm just going off of the comment Cooper made, that Ckret posted on Jan 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM: Ckret said: I don't know how it got into the press that Cooper had something against the airlines. Tina asked him at one point why did he hijack the flight and Cooper replied, "I don't have a grudge against the airline, I just have a grudge." Orange1: I have to research it more. I read one editorial that said that..don't really know if exactly true...will look some more...That stuff caught my eye when it was mentioned. (I had forgotten about it). I was intrigued by the 1971 date (since we're all about 1971 here! :) and looked for some more stuff (which I posted). Yes economists now seem to agree it was flawed. I had posted before suggestions about economic/employment issues maybe affecting Cooper..maybe political, maybe right/conservative even. What's interesting to me, is that recent events make it a little easier to "feel like '71" in that regard. Makes me reflect on biases and how I think about possibilities. It's weird how many things "could" be interesting. Even something as weird as the Veteran's Day thing. Remember I'm thinking one possibility is that Cooper was slightly a nutcase. (edit) no disrepect to vets. We mused about Cooper having military experience. Only reason I mentioned it.

wait a second. This thing isn't a drinking game? Yes I can't keep track of the Duane story. I thought he was John Collins in the Missouri prison. (commutation). So there's at least one instance where he's jailed under an alias? I guess I'm all confused. Oh by the way..is there an ironclad link between John Collins and Duane Weber? The FBI confirms the aliases, but do you have something that has the same picture of a guy, but the two different names? I always wondered about that. Some of the ids you talk about have no photo? (edit) attached the 2nd fingerprint card ckret posted way back, in case you didn't get that right either. You gotta admit, it's a little weird that you claim to be a data gatherer, but here and there you seem to miss things? (edit) Nixon actually spoke at the AFL-CIO convention, on Nov. 19, 1971, to promote Phase 2. There was some friction where some claim he was treated badly. They laughed when he said the wage/price controls were working. A quote from Meany in the papers on 11/22/71 "I think we still have a constitutional right to laugh"..."This is still a democracy. This is still not a monarchy". Meany was 77 years old at the time.

Jo, you've mentioned the Colorado incarceration. I've always assumed JC was incarcerated as John Collins. Do you know if it's possible he could have been jailed under an alias..i.e. Duane Lorin Weber (32755) ? Do you have anything that says what name he was jailed under. I've just noticed that the fingerprint card (attached) ckret provided has the name Duane Lorin Weber. I'm surprised that an alias would be used? I guess I'm surprised, but the system wasn't setup to resolve identities 100% back then? It's interesting. [subject: recognize the line from a movie?] (edit) Aug 15, 1971 Nixon preempts Bonanza to announce 90 day wage and price controls. ends up lasting 1000 days thru phases 1,2,3,4. Was Cooper a fan of Bonanza, and that was his grudge? Oct 25, 1971 The Uniform Holiday Bill (Public Law 90-363 (82 Stat. 250)) was signed on June 28, 1968, and was intended to insure three-day weekends for Federal employees by celebrating four national holidays on Mondays: Washington's Birthday, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Columbus Day. Many states/individuals disagreed with this idea. The first Veterans Day under the new law was observed with much confusion on October 25, 1971....because of the negative reactions, on September 20th, 1975, President Gerald R. Ford signed Public Law 94-97 (89 Stat. 479), which returned the annual observance of Veterans Day to its original date of November 11, beginning in 1978. Was Cooper's grudge about Veteran's day? Nov. 15, 1971 Nixon announces Phase 2. AFL-CIO headed by George Meany, has their convention in Miami Beach the prior week. Large labor unions take a big hit under Nixon's plans. Stock market wobbles to new low for '71 on Phase 2 news. Nov. 24. 1971 Cooper hijack 37 years pass. Aug 29, 2008 Sarah Palin is announced as Republican vice presidential candidate Sept 24, 2008 George Bush speech to promote the Paulson bailout. The total estimated cost is rivaled only by the Nixon wage and price controls, back in 1971. All just data, no opinions.

Trying to play the game of what random references Jo might have thrown together. Found a list of smokejumpers trained by Forest Service/BLM from 1940-2001 online (book copy in Google books). amazing the data is available.. acronyms for area: (I suppose training area) MSO Missoula, Montana MYC McCall, Idaho FBX Fairbanks, Alaska NIFC National Interagency Fire Center, Boise, Idaho CJ Cave Junction, Oregon RAC Redmond Air Center, Redmond, Oregon RDD Redmond, Oregon extracting ones that might "match" known Collins aliases: (note none do) Webber, Robert W. MSO 1962 Webber, Spence A. MYC 1971 Weber, Darrell J. MYC 1953 Weber, Gerald R. MSO 1967 Weber, Jared FBX 2001 Weber, John A. NIFC 1993 Weber, William P. MSO 1944 Collins, Brady NIFC 1997 Collins, Phil RDD 1959 Collins, Robert C. MSO 1946 Collins, Rober J. RAC 1969 Collins, Stanley H. MYC 1967 Collins, Theo CJ 1978 Collins, William MSO 1946 (edit) There are 5 Webb's also. Here's a Wayne. Webb, Wayne R. MYC 1946 source http://books.google.com/books?id=A6cEZ2Ay0P4C&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=wayne+l.+weber+smokejumper&source=web&ots=gpVEHUpTG5&sig=H__NVOMMhuhQmF-6gV2E8oc5ngs&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA41,M1 pages 41-57 are available. 58-60 aren't. So the list stops at "Webking" but that's okay for this purpose.

Of of JC's aliases was "Wayne L. Weber" The character known as "Potsie" on Happy Days, was named Wayne Weber in the show. Now, most people will say: that was after 1971. What you don't know is that "Happy Days" started out as an pilot in 1971 called "New Family in Town" produced by Garry Marshall for ABC. So the timing is right relative to the Cooper event. "Potsie" is an obvious reference to marijuana. This helps confirm the LSD/Project MK-ULTRA connection Jo has been denying. I would also note that LSD can have it's letters scrambled to form LDS. Richard McCoy was a devout Latter-day Saint. There is precedent for the CIA encoding information in tv show names/aliases...i.e. Theodore Cleaver/Beaver.

Mucklow=MKULTRA TENA=Tina It is all there, we just need to find the frequency Kenneth. Stephen King knew that Rather knew: "I've got a sneaky admiration for Dan Rather because I'm never sure when he's going to go bonkers on you. He always looks like he's gonna just stop and say, 'All right, motherfuckers, here it comes. We've got the bodies in hangar 18, the government has been lying to you....' And then they're going to drag him off." --Steven King, quoted in the 1990 book, Anchors: Brokaw, Jennings, Rather and the Evening News by Robert Goldberg and Gerald Goldberg.

hey thanks for the history, 377. You always amaze me. You've had a taste of many strange things in your life. And kept your head together thru it all!. [edit] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A The question is, who sistered the joists underneath Room 641A?

I have made the occasional references to LSD before, hoping you'd put the pieces together. It seems you haven't so here are some more clues. 1964 Project MKULTRA becomes MKSEARCH 1966 CIA front organization formed: Amazon Natural Drug Company. Note this was headed by J.C. King, who as you know was head of the CIA's Western Hemisphere Division during Bay of Pigs. Escorted "out" after that. 1968 Project OFTEN Gottlieb suddenly ended MKSEARCH in 1972, immediately after the Cooper event. Nixon purges Helms from head of CIA. Schlesinger is named replacement. Helms and Gottelieb destroy all MKULTRA documents. Error left seven boxes of boxes though. Marana is in AZ. (edit) Also note that William Egan Colby had paratrooper training. He was responsible for the Phoenix program in Vietnam. Nixon made him Director of CIA in 1973. Note his death was "accidental" in 1996. He was canoeing at night by himself. He had no life jacket. Body found 20 yards from shore. Canoe 100 yards from shore. FBI killed Colby Question: security is paramount in any conspiracy, as well as staying out of jail. Kernell forgot to check what laws cover accessing a governor's email acount. That account was clearly not used to circumvent other laws. Yahoo provides important cost savings for Alaska. It's tricky business when everyone's illegal...luck of the draw who gets the short stick...Why is this applicable to a Cooper thread, you ask? my question: what laws apply to accessing Ckret's or skyjack71's account here? Ethics doesn't apply, since we're talking major conspiracies...Although I suppose in most any conspiracy, the players have their own code of ethics. Is there such a code in the Cooper conspiracy? Or is it open season/free-fire-zone? What are the rules that constrain behavior? (assume there are no technical constraints). (edit) One of the last pieces of the puzzle is resolved once one is aware that Biological Radio Communication was being looked at to replace drugs like LSD. A document from the Foreign Technology Division of Wright Paterson AFB, 1963 is at http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=AD0400553 that mentions this. (first page attached) It is no coincidence that georger has mentioned past USAF activity with high altitude balloons and parachuting. This work also took place at Wright Paterson AFB. Not coincidentally.

Orange1 said: Orange1: I was not aware of the theft from the safe deposit box at the Drake hotel. I did the requisite search thru the newspapers, and attached an article from the wire services that details it. 7/30/73 Lowell Sun. The money has apparently never been recovered. It was between $203,800 and $229,000. There was no indication that the box had been forced open. Two keys were needed to open, one that the desk clerk had, and one that the tour manager had. Jo has mentioned a desk clerk before.

I think Jo has blinders on when it comes to the Page conspiracy. As I've said before, I really hate being dragged thru all this again, kicking and screaming. But facts are facts. Like Jimi Hendrix. Everyone knows he was a jumper right? Seriously. From his bio at http://www.hotshotdigital.com/WellAlwaysRemember/JimiHendrixBio.html "..[Jimi]... voluntarily joining the army at 17. After 14 months as a paratrooper, learning a lot about falling and flying, he suffered an injury and was discharged. He decided to enter the music field." Note that the biographer specifically calls out "falling' and "flying". More detail from http://www.nndb.com/people/885/000031792/ Trained at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. Got his discharge after breaking his ankle. He was born in 1942, so that would be around 1960. That site also notes the service was compulsory, apparently part of a deal after a legal issue involving car theft? Note the jump training helps confirm everything I've been saying. I don't know if they held the car theft over his head again, since he didn't fullfill the 2 year service commitment, but maybe that was part of it. I'll leave it unsaid whether his death was accidental on 9/18/70. Note that it was right before the Elvis/Nixon meeting on 12/21/70, that initiated the Elvis Factor that happythoughts and orange1 have also id'ed. (remember Hendrix is referenced in the Elvis/Nixon meeting memorandum) I would note that the original b/w newscast announcing his death, used a disclaimer... "apparently from an overdose of drugs" .......see youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Ps16GlrgA Elvis is mentioned.

I attached the front covers of the oct 1,1971 and oct 31,1971 timetables..they were at that site. So someone has a copy, somewhere. (edit) src: http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usb/northwest/gal/nwgal70.htm

Jimmy Page? No, I don't believe it. After all he is still (officially) alive, if he really was a co-conspirator his death would have been faked, along with all the others. Unless you believe that because Page is British the FBI wouldn't've bothered to include him in the (sshhhhh) cover-up? If someone was standing on the aft stairs... that would be their final words to a flight attendant. Exactly, happythoughts! You see my point clearly. If there was a conspiracy, there would be clues. So when we find clues like this, it clearly validates the conspiracy. I don't want to spell it all out, but everyone knows that Squeeky Fromme tried to pass a note to Jimmy Page at a concert right? This is documented in wikipedia. The note was burned without being read. While Fromme was probably not involved in the Cooper event, she may have been experiencing clairvoyance about a CIA sniper in the crowd. I believe that rather than covering up Page, there were attempts to silence him thru assassination. from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynette_Fromme "Attempt to contact Jimmy Page In March 1975, Fromme confronted Danny Goldberg, the publicist for English rock band Led Zeppelin, which was performing concerts in the United States as part of its North American concert tour. She said she had to see Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, because she had foreseen something evil in his future and thought it might happen that night during the band's concert at the Long Beach Arena. She swore that the last time this had happened, she had seen someone shot to death before her very eyes. Goldberg persuaded her to write a long note to Page, after which she left. The note was burned, unread."

remember how I said, "everything is online".... found a collector's site that gives the first step in understanding this flight scheduling issue, and when 305 added the Seattle leg. http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usb/northwest.htm has a list of all Northwest timetables printed. The info is collected from an assortment of collectors. They are motivated, so it can be considered reasonably definitive? Here's the schedules available, given the dates they were active. They give numbers for the schedule, but I think those are just collectors' reference numbers. Contrary to my guess, the schedules didn't always become active on the first. The missing schedules we need are: 10-01-71 10-31-71 I'll try emailing the collectors. Here are all the dates, starting from around the previous year's thanksgiving. Note that in 1970, there was a new schedule on 11/16. (edit) the closest in 1971 would be 10-31-71. So there wasn't a special "holiday" schedule? not printed at least? 10-25-70 11-16-70 12-01-70 12-17-70 01-18-71 02-01-71 03-01-71 04-01-71 04-25-71 06-01-71 08-01-71 10-01-71 10-31-71 12-15-71