rushmc

Now we are talking about bombs And you call my post a strawman You just cant get over the fact that guns are not the issue Even when presented with data that infers the point Well, at least you recognize your serious limitations "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Your logic is off. Those like you say that the number of guns in the US and the access to guns is part of the problem I post that a story that yet again (as it has been for at least the last 6 years) gun sales, gun ownership and access to guns, is setting records yearly if not monthly. I then remind you that that, according to FBI stats, gun violence has not increased and is in fact trending down as it has been for at least the last 10 years. Now, I never stated that because there are more guns there is less crime because that inference can not be made. However, it also can not be said that access to gun or more guns increased crime as some like you would infer in your posts here. Then you come back with that nice little turd of a retort, "Your logic is off" Once that little turd is laid a couple more come in and lay there eggs on it to try and save you Ya, MY logic is off Nice strawman. Your logic is off again. Translation You got nothing "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The NRA will always be the punching bag, the bogeyman etc. etc. It's become too common a thing. A shooting goes down, blame the NRA...and so it goes. Funny thing that of the firearms I've bought at stores and shows, I've always had to fill out the paperwork, the dealers (at both store and show) always phoned in to do the background check and once everything was in order i.e. passing the background check, the sale could be finalized. I can site a lot of past stories and statements but the fact is, the gun control crowd does not seek tighter regulations, they seek total confiscation of privately owned firearms. They think they can confiscate over 300 million firearms while at the same time making the claim of how impossible it is to deport 10? 12? 20? million illegal aliens. HMMMMM.... OK, time to go don the verbal flack vest and prepare for the predictable incoming. I got your 6 "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Based on all I have been able to learn about this, I agree with you! I can not see what they are trying to accomplish. They need to leave! Unless something else is learned about this. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

You might be right! The Gun Show in Chantilly, VA is in a couple of weeks. Ought to set a record in sales. Thought I'd through in the attachment just for grins. And the NRA has had little in the news as of late But Bill will say that the NRA is the real sales people "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Your logic is off. Those like you say that the number of guns in the US and the access to guns is part of the problem I post that a story that yet again (as it has been for at least the last 6 years) gun sales, gun ownership and access to guns, is setting records yearly if not monthly. I then remind you that that, according to FBI stats, gun violence has not increased and is in fact trending down as it has been for at least the last 10 years. Now, I never stated that because there are more guns there is less crime because that inference can not be made. However, it also can not be said that access to gun or more guns increased crime as some like you would infer in your posts here. Then you come back with that nice little turd of a retort, "Your logic is off" Once that little turd is laid a couple more come in and lay there eggs on it to try and save you Ya, MY logic is off "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

More eggs being laid "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Obviously not, because when I pointed out that he never promised not to take a vacation, you replied with his number of vacation days. Face it, you just hadn't had an Obama bash all day, so you parroted this lame shit. It is about what he said And threads like this bring the all you Obama supporters out like flies to a turd you just gotta lay your eggs You cant help yourselves "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I am one of those 'the glass is 1/2 full' types. That is one of the reasons why I do not support capital punishment; I like to think that while there is life, there is hope. However, as I follow your recent postings here, I am beginning to think that you cannot do better. Just an observation, Jerry Baumchen Well happy observations! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Bush took approx. 3x more time off. You defended Bush on that issue. Why is it an issue when Obama takes significantly less time off? You really should work on your logic. If you would care to take a real look, this not about how many vacations either president took or takes It is about what Obama said "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I am not going to waste any more time trying to explain logic to you. It wouldn't be very logical after that post. You post this like you have some magical logic to explain!!! LMFAO "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It was a big damned deal when Bush did it And most of the time he just went to his own home "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Trolling trolling trolling keep them posters trolling .................. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It is not an issue of a dog It is an issue of adding a dog Adding the dog did not increase chewed shoes But since 2 shoes did get chewed up are you going to claim that more dogs equal more chewed shoes? In any event, a dog is an animal that acts by itself You analogy is screwed up Kind of like your logic comment Ever seen a gun chew up a shoe? Ever see a gun shoot all by itself? Come on dude You can do better "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Normal in your world I guess "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/remember-when-obama-promised-no-vacations "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Your logic is off. So you can say more guns purchased has increased gun violence? The fact that this is your follow up questions further illustrates that your logic is off. It seems to me you do not understand what the word logic means. If you got a point, spit it out. Otherwise I will consider yours posts as trolling "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Your logic is off. So you can say more guns purchased has increased gun violence? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

That's great, do you have a point? Or are you just indicating you were able to copy and paste a section from the article? Gun violence has note increased even with more guns purchased So this indicates guns are not the issue It certainly can NOT be said that more guns increase gun violence "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I found this further down in the article "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

44 back ground checks every minute in 2015! And yet the rate of guns causing violence has not gone up! Imagine that........ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/4/background-checks-gun-sales-record-high-2015/ So a total of 23,141,970 checks in 2015 were conducted I wonder what percentage of these checks resulted in guns purchased, and also guns NOT sold? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Ok Then lets look at the 10 biggest lies of the warmists too

The language issue is just a matter of semantics. One person trying to spin the facts calls it incendiary, another person trying to present the facts calls it descriptive. Criminals who commits acts of violence have their own motives. The words or circumstances they use for justification is just an attempt to divert guilt. The real elephant in the room is the 53 plus million people who, like us, could have been here discussing this issue. But were instead , terminated. ... You point follows multiple lines For example Bill says something he does not actually believe and says he is using sarcasm to make a point. I did exactly the same thing and I get a warning for trolling "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Classic tactic is happening here. In the middle of an abortion debate, when you don't have an answer or anything meaningful to say, change the subject to Muslims. And who brought up the nut? Look in the mirror dude "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It's just rushmc being obtuse and pretending not to understand again. It's his favourite tactic. Someone talks about apples, he compares them to oranges, and then tries to get someone to play his game with him. Waste of time to answer him. A classic leftwing tactic. Dont like the point, belittle that person You have not been here long enough to know that does not work on me. Anyway, see my reply to Wendy, who IS worth replying too because she gives something you and those like you rarely give. Which is respect. Something you no longer deserve "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln