Lucky...

Really, what's worse: hairy armpits or fat chicks?

Sounds like an episode of Reno 911.

Agreed, but impeachment is done by the House and the votes are there. Just like Brownie, Bush will soon shed his backing for yet another crappy appointee.

Plus, you'd have to bust your hump to make minimum wage plus tips. Somehow, I think that's out of the question. Something tells me the tips would e low anyway. Did you hear of the Hooters case? KInda silly, but very demonstrative for gender equality.

It is SC, so this is par. Keepit going. So you agree with my list that women should not be in those occupations then? Or should we say that women who cannot meet standards that men have to meet, which encompass most women, then they s/b disallowed. So you are in agreement with me on that point. Remember, the rule of law requires judges to follow these directions, so many times these aren't matters of judicial idiocy, they are matters of legislative idiocy. I was just posting that for the sake of example. There was an industrious guy and his buddy lawyer who did sue Hootersand one, but any other attempts would fail as I understood it. But so, I can't be a Hooter's bitch, but you can be an astronaut; no equity there. Again, I can post Title 9 if you wish, that will establish the fairness this country has and how the implement it. Uh, no I don't. If you can;t make an argument, move along. I want to know which assertions were shallow and why. You claim this is shallow: Altho I find hairy armpits on women disgusting, some Feminazi (to borrow from Limbaugh) behavior is worse. How so? Which other ones; you did write there were statements Thx, I was unsure what shallow meant, that clears it all up. Which statements and why. Now, let's talk of this great country - explain how it is so great.

Please post an assertion by me and explian in som kind of detail how I am insulted you have an opinion. If you're gong to decry Women Suffrage, please support it rather than using it as a distraction. Where did I say anything about attitudes? It's the actions that stem from women who are headstrong to prove they can be, rather than just walking around with attitudes. I care little about attitudes, it's teh actions that matter. Sarcastic and inflammatory? Hmm, were they true? I'm thinking they are and you have yet to impeach them. If I were to say that the US was a pos in WWII for Japanese-American internment, would I be wrong? Would I be unduly defaming ole glory? n teh law there is such a think as an affirmative defense and it is a defense wher ethe defendant bears the burden of the proof. So if you are attacking me for making, "scarcastic and inflammatory" statements about the US, you need to do so from the point of disproving my claim that we were one of the last 7 nations to execute people who committed capital crimes as juveniles. Or you could explain how it is justified and and how itcreates this myth of deterrence. Something, any-fuckin-thing, but not just that, "You posted scarcastic and inflammatory comments about how America isn't what it could be." You're attcaking me and not what I wrote..... look up Ad Hominem We were endorsing slavery, prohibiting women from voting and executing people in public summary trials while we called ourselves the land of the free and you want to sugarcoat this? Niiiiiiice. Perhaps a little reading of history would be good. Read about Indian Schools while you're at it. But b sure to believe all the garbage about Thanksgiving, it's so much more pallatable than the likely truth. Yes, you are patriotic and idealistic. Actually the apathy you are accusing me of having doesn't contribute to the problem. I'm not apathetic, but even if I was it wouldn't be contributory to the probs. I go to Bush-bashing rallies, try to educate how the 3 stooges (Reagan, Bush, Bush) are responsible 75% of teh debt that Clinton actually turned flat and I vote and have voted every chance I get. Speaking of your idealism, here's a treat. When the local county wanted to issue bonds and/or tax increases to build the local 1/2B$ ballpark, they put it to the voters who shot it down. The county board of supervisors threw out the vote and held a closed midniht session to approve it unanymously. Want another dose of idealism? Am I getting life advice from who I think is a kid? What does that mean?.... "you should feel empowered to act on that." You are powerless, young lady. If you want to be a good patriot, keep thinking you can make a difference. I will always vote, but after the 2000 election and other ones like I posted, I do it so I can bitch, but it's merely masturbation other than that. Who cares about a female in the military, I have no issue with that? I've already stated that I think women make great intellects, so that point is moot as well. Outshoot me, undoubtedly, I suck at hitting a target, but if we were under fire the odds are that a female would be ducking for cover as the men are sticking their dubm asses up there are exchanging fire. It's just the different way we are wired: Men = protectors / Women = nurturers. Idealistic, you, yes. One person standing up to cry foul? Sounds so, Tienamin Square-ish. BTW, there is no way in hell that lon stander is still alive.

I do, it's my opinion as to whoever we are talking about, so I can create my own opinion and support it as I wish. Can she throw me and my buddy over her shoulder and carry me down aflight of stairs as the fire is tailing us? Or would it take her 5 minutes to clumsily drag 1 of us at a time down teh stairs when the fire would have engulfed us in 30 seconds? I don't think slight men s/b firefighters either. If you can't put up 2 plates then you should sit behind a desk. I've known a couple women bodybuilders who could suffice as firefighters, and would have no problem if they did, but the mass of them could not carry me down a flight of stairs. I agree, but let's up the standards. Should I post a copy of the local standards for police entry? Women have far les stringent standards and can even do girly pushups. Hell, I can't be a Hooter's girl (my hairy legs don't look so good in the uniforms), so why can weaker people be firefighters? As for the legal definition of gender discrimination, you are far away. Go read cases like Bacce (actually more about race than gender, but nonetheless a discrimination case) or read about 1972's Title 9. You might be representing a common sense approach to it, but it's not the one used. Hang on, a tear of gender equality patriotism is falling down my cheek...... ok, there. Shallow comments? You have yet to explain, in intellectual terms, how anything I've written is shallow. I can research and post the 2 cites I have offered if you want to take this post: A) away from the original thread B) to a higher intellectual nature. LMK

I don't wanna be a politician. I have voted since I was 18 and in every presidential and mid-term election, and I assume I am considerably older than are you, so how can you make that assumption? Move? Love to? I sincerely apologize for having an opinion in this last bastion of liberty and freedom. I was military for 1 term. I am degreed and I have voted in every election that I could, so how is it that you are talking to me? To think you can effect change in most cases is part of that silly notion that we dole out equal protection for everyone and that liberty and justie is blind. The system is one of text only, the real application of that text is far different from the reality you like to write about. You don't know me, I could have dedicated my life to being an amicus for an issue. You are clueless as to who I am or what I have done to further my issues, yet you wanna tell me in neo-con fashion that I am a lazy whiner. Get a clue as to what I'm abiut and then make your judgments.

Whether by personal choice or enforced norms, American women shave their armpits. As a man I thank them. Let's not make hairy armpits the yardstick of a woman's femininity. Altho I find hairy armpits on women disgusting, some Feminazi (to borrow from Limbaugh) behavior is worse. OK... since you went there - define "Feminazi." Not just vague comments and generalities that refer to stereotyped insults... but really tell us what "Feminazi" behaviour repulses you. Not a fan of Limbaugh at all, but the slang is funny. BTW, I adore Hillary or Obama as future president. Uh, a Feminazi is a female who needs to overassert her control just to upset the apple cart to show she can, not for any constructive purpose. I think women make great professionals and intellects, so not as to subordinate women to domesic roles. OTOH, they make shitty: - Firefighters - Cops - Atheletes (in most sports) - Front line ground troops in war - Most physical roles That's my take, I have my asbestos suit on, so let me have it

How dare you accuse America of being uncivilized. Just because we were one of the last 7 nations to execute people who were convicted of committing capital crimes as juveniles doesn't make us uncivilized . We are the last bastion of liberty and all that rhetoric. We deny mnimum wage increases becuase we care about our poor, we want to motivate them to work harder, and all that other rhetoric. Medical care, well, the people who don't have it really just don't want it. Nuff said there. America is the greatest nation on earth, as the rhetoric goes.....

Whether by personal choice or enforced norms, American women shave their armpits. As a man I thank them. Let's not make hairy armpits the yardstick of a woman's femininity. Altho I find hairy armpits on women disgusting, some Feminazi (to borrow from Limbaugh) behavior is worse.

So you're saying it's all about revenge and pay back? How grownup of them. You can't sneak anything into a bill if the legislators are about the business of doing their job. Yet your side would defend the recent Republican Congressional garbage for shooting down teh federal min wage increase by saying Clinton would have refused to sign the 2nd min wage incr (he did sign and implement the first one) since it had all kinds of tax benefits for the rich packed in it. Clinton did say he would sign a min wage incr if sent up alone w/o the goodies packed in it, so you are contradicting yourself.

Right, kinda like a dress rehersal, so if the lies don;t wash now, they can change their lies later. Allowing a dress rehersal is a free ticket out of trouble for the party of criminals, do you want that?

So the Clinton impeachment showed lots of attention to other more important things huh? Brilliance. And teh Repugs chasing of Clinton was not like this? Hard to hear Repugs whine after the BJ impeachment over what.... lying? Oh yea, same lying they are investigating now...... I'm sending you a mirror, just drop a mailing addy. you really do not know what that was all about do you amazing Yes, again: Clinton was impeached for 2 of the 4 counts that were POLITICALLY charged, the charges were perjury and obstruction of justice,as decided by the House. The Senate failed to POLITICALLY convict him with the supermajority they needed, 67 votes. The vote beakdown went as follows: PERJURY: 55 no / 45 yes OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE: 50 / 50 So yes, I do well know what the deal is, do you know the diff is between a political and a criminal case/proceding? There, fixed it for ya

Clinton was impeached for lying about a BJ, and there is a double standard? You really don't know what all happened do you? Wow Clinton was impeached for 2 of the 4 counts that were POLITICALLY charged, the charges were perjury and obstruction of justice,as decided by the House. The Senate failed to POLITICALLY convict him with the supermajority they needed, 67 votes. The vote beakdown went as follows: PERJURY: 55 no / 45 yes OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE: 50 / 50 So yes, I do well know what the deal is, do you know the diff is between a political and a criminal case/proceding?

So the Clinton impeachment showed lots of attention to other more important things huh? Brilliance. And teh Repugs chasing of Clinton was not like this? Hard to hear Repugs whine after the BJ impeachment over what.... lying? Oh yea, same lying they are investigating now...... I'm sending you a mirror, just drop a mailing addy.

Who are you saying teh dems insisted on being fired? I think you're missing it here, your heroes biys were fired cause they knew too much. Shall we debate that or live with your tangents?

Clinton was disbared because he lied under oath. You loose this one. and Libby is where he is because of an out of control justice dept and I think you know as well as anyone he should not be in this situation. But you can't admit it because of your position.....sad You're confusing the impeachment and subsequent failure to get the conviction..... A POLITICAL PROCESS. ....with the criminal process with Libby, IT IS PART OF TEH CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. Don't confuse the 2 processes, diff rues, etc.

Furthermore these proceedings are criminal (Libby, etc) and Clinton's was political - huge difff.....apples/oranges.

In what way? There are (were) issues with what those that were fired were doing under both admins. I am not making a claim of right or wrong (as some seem to be implying here) The point, more than anything, is how differently it is viewed depending on which party has the power of the office. Your thought? An admin cleaning house as they enter office is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay diff than cleaning house as shit is hitting the fan in the middle of your presidencey.

Clinton was impeached for lying about a BJ, and there is a double standard?

Yea, Bush gets his gead from interns and ensures they swallow it all.

TRue, but at the end of teh day, science is still a theory, which makes it a sort of belief. I do like that about science tho, even when they have plenty to call things fact, they carefully call them theories.

You mean other dinosaurs put the dead dinosaur bones there?

There is the difference between science and religion. You do not have to believe in science - there is factual evidence which you can look on. But there is no factual evidence in religion. Both are theories, just that religion claims to be factual, science admits there are some holes and is eluctant to use the word, "proof." Science begs you to disprove them, religion dares you to. This is why I find science so great and religion so repulsive.