RiggerLee

Actually it's a lot of fun but it's kind of limiting. you can box the tail. you can do barrel rolls, and the view is great but that's it. It's not some thing that you are going to want to do every day. Once you've done you've done it. It gets boring. It's not like fourway or freeflying where there is always more to do. And the funny thing is it's going to take years for this guy to figure this out. News flash. It takes about thirty min to build the harness. What's he going to do for the rest of the time? Other then troll for money? Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

What do you need with the board. Just body surf behind the plane. With a Y attachment point at the hip junction it's just a little below your AC You can control your AOA with your legs. even just with your body you can box the tail of the airplane. With a wing suit you might as well be a sail plane. Fuck that board nonsense with the full front of your body to the wind. It's much harder and takes way more strength even with the attachment at your waist. I'd hate to try to hold on to handle like that. This guy is an fool. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

The bitch of the thing is that I really like the G3. It's one of my favorite rigs. But... I was at PIA. I wondered by their booth. And while I was there a young jumper stopped by and was asking about their rig. I thought this was really cool. This person was obviously a student looking to buy their first rig and was there at the symposium normally filled with crusty old riggers. And she was cute. Note that she was female and this may have played a part in the story. So I sat back and listened to the guys sales speech. Freefly colors, cool fabrics, and shiny hardware. That was it. Not one substantive fact about the container. It was embarrassing. She took it with good graces but I was offended. I was offended as a jumper, as a rigger, hell I was offended enough for her as well. It just bothers me that they think so little of the skydiving community. I would like to believe that we aren't really that stupid but that seem to be what it's come down to these days. That's what sells rigs and we buy it, literally. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Brown noser. Yes. it does sound great. Antigravity also sounds great. And if it's finally truly a go, ie all the development, testing, certification, and approval is completed and the design is frozen then maybe a picture, a drawing, a copy of the instructions or even just an explanation of this new wonder of the world would be nice. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Chafin. The only person I've ever known crazy enough to try to build an 8 cell canopy. It was probably a variation on his lazer. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

But who the hell wants an odd ball color. Harnesses are supposed to be black. Was it a change in the dying? I always thought it was a wild variation in the resin coating. Some of it's almost ridged. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

So how does it work? I was thinking that it was a larks head around a stiffened section of bridle. Pull of the RSL and it synches tight. Pull of the PC bridle comes tight and opens the loop releasing it. But that's just a shot in the dark from the four usable frames of the video. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Yah, but I wonder if the type 13 shit would slip. It's pretty stiff. lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Some people are arguing that. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Sigh. You are just not up to my level of sarcasm. Yes, I can see it. I'm just disappointed in it. Personally I would use a marketing campaign with substance and information. There are like four frames in the whole video which are actually interesting. I think I might know how it works. But as usual it's just pretty-shiny-free-fly-colors-and-music from the manufacturer. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

So, I don't get it. Is it just a music video or is it supposed to convey some short of actual information? Am I missing a link or some thing? Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Better you then me. Not loving that design. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I'm also curious. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Lets say you had a design with a number of sizes but only three slider sizes. You might get the largest opening a bit hard, then the next size down a bit softer, and a bit softer for the next. Then a sharp spike upwards in opening force as you went to a smaller slider size, and again a decrease for the next few canopies. Not saying this is the case. I'm just pointing out a possible reason. And then some time you just build a hard opening canopy. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

OMG I hope she's hot. Are you at least going to get some out of this? This smells like a Nikki project. I must have went through half a dozen of these projects trying to get my old partner layed. Long story. But to your question, I don't think it matters in terms of making them slippery. If there were any danger I would think it would be in getting really long "fur" caught under the toggle in her hand as she grabs the loop and making her drop a toggle. If that makes any since? If she's using the top two fingers to grab the dive loop, as she should, then I don't think that it would be a problem. Women are some of the worst about using a full hand grab to try to pull on a dive loop. Check on how she's doing it. I'd say go ahead and build them for her. It's a fad. And she'll get board with it soon enough. Either she will get tired of the fluffy lump under her riser covers or she'll be unhappy with the fuz sticking out when it's closed, or they will start to look ragged and she'll want to get rid of them. In any case it probable wont last long. But the key thing in all of this is that they look good now and you get a really good blow job on delivery. That is all that matters in this. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I'm not sure about the "While HE has it in the shop." part of that statement. Make several samples including the thickest thing you would ever want to bind. May or may not be a side flap. Make sure he sends at least one set of samples to TN. That's where they need them. Not in his shop after the fact to see if it will work. He may or may not have done a bunch of custom attachments like this with them before. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I'm old school. I would go with old machines with standard clutch motors. Some of my machines have been running for more then 70 years and will still be running like a clock after I'm gone. I'm not sure I can say the same for some of these new fangled things. And the old school stuff can be less then half the cost of new machines. I've bought double needle heads for $100 Table legs new half speed motor for $250. Assemble. Beat that price on a brand new servo driven machine. Last harness I sold I charged the guy $500. You should be able to find one for $1000, $1500 tops. Look around for an old black singer. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Oddly enough, the only square reserve I've ever seen rip was a safety flyer. It had a musty moldy smell but no visible discoloration. Wag picked a cell up and popped it and ripped it from nose to tail. And I mean nose to tail. In true Wag fashion, when it split he just kept pulling with his big long monkey arms. I didn't champ it but I'd say it tore at around 12 to 15 lb. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Repeating drop test I could see, but reapplying? I thought that if you started a design under one TSO say C23c that you could continue to operate it under that same TSO. Wonder Hog becomes Vector becomes Vector 2 becomes Vector 3 all under b. Much larger changes there then changing out connector links. By the way I prefer L-bars for heavy loads and I think they are better off that way. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

This is all good and fine, as I happen to agree with that position. The flip side of the coin is of course that a civil court will not be able to understand this so the truth is that you're stuck with the shortened life span any ways. But there is a larger question that I have a problem with. I'm not sure about the larger primus of this letter. If you were to take this same thought process of this letter and extend it. What about other changes to the original TSO'd design/manual/operating standards. Are you saying that these things can not be updated by the manufacturer? Let's look at manuals. Think of all the changes made over the years as we have evolved. By the same logic you would be stuck the instructions issued with that very generation of equipment. How often have you seen revisions with "This manual supersedes all previous versions of this manual." or some thing like it. This letter is just a very limited statement of position on one question that was submitted. It doesn't say any of this but I'm not sure I like the direction behind it because in some ways it ham strings the manufacturers in evolving their equipment. Do you see where I'm going with this? I have doubts about the basic premise of not allowing the manufacturer to evolve their design in any way out side the AD system which is basically what they are saying. Yah, I know. Only I could look a gift horse in the mouth and complain. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Hold it. Let's be clear. It's not normal. It's a design choice with both pros and cons. And we're talking about two separate issues. A forwards hip joint, and leg strap slide. A but bungee will only help with the latter. If the junction is too far forwards and do to the geometry the rig is lifting off your back a bungee will not help you. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

This is not uncommon. What it really comes down to is the hip junction not being in alignment with the point of rotation of your hip. Most rigs today have a longer lateral for comfort. It helps to keep the MLW from cutting into your shoulders and when you open you are almost sitting rather then having the leg strap cut into your groin from a MLW that is further back on your side. I would have to see how the rig fits on you but it's probable less a fit issue and more a trend that you see in harness design over the last few years. You might get the same thing with a brand new custom rig made for you. Note that they have gone over board on some rigs that they have built for people and on some designs this can be a problem. Mirages lifting off peoples backs when they sit fly. You can get an after market belly band that will help to keep the rig in against your lower back but it will still lift vertically loosening the MLW over your shoulders. You can also get a but band that will help to keep your leg straps from sliding down your leg. It's just a little bungee about ass hole high between the leg straps to help keep the leg straps in your groin. There have been broken legs from hard openings. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Outstanding. Motor onwards. Sew, sew, sew. We want to see the vid from the first jump. Build it and go jump the shit. But one thing I do notice is your reinforcement for your slider stops. I think I would make the fold unders longer. All the way across so that you had three layers. That way you slip the chip between two layers of tape rather then just f-111. There's going to be a lot of load between the bar tack and the chip. In the long term you might need something heavier to contain the chip on opening. I'm thinking wear issue, long term. But go jump it. If you need to change it later do so. You can always sew another layer on top of it later. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

If they do they should probable erase it. The FAA has very little since of humor. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

In the past this was not the case but when the more modern generation of computerized AAD's came around the cutters were a semi off the shelf technology. It made instillation almost universal. It is imperfect. There has been a lot of discussion about developing a ballistic pin puller. Jump shack has been looking at this. I haven't heard much on it for a while. What I'd seen showed promise but I don't think it was ready as is. He was trying to make it a universal replacement part that could work on any rig and be installed in the field with out any approval from the rig or AAD manufacturers. And the bottom line is that it's just not that simple. You'll have to go back and read the old threads but I still think that a micro puller style design might be the way to go. I liked his inline concept but there is the potential for complications and I don't see it as being readily as universal of a solution as he seemed to think. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com