SkyDekker

That would add about 5 million people to the unemployment list. You really think that would be good for the US economy?

Do you wish there was a law requiring all guns to be locked up? no Should there be home inspections by police to enforce that law? no What about people who don't have children in their homes - would they be exempt? What would the effect be upon people who need their gun for self defense in their home?none What about law enforcement officers? With children? what about them? If you are stupid enough to allow your child to kill themselves with your gun, that is the cost you pay for your 2nd Amendment right. If a minor you are responsible for takes your gun and goes on a murder spree, you should be held responsible and charged with accessory to.

I am still trying to figure out what this has to do with socialism? Teacher's have a duty to report. Many Canadians, specially near urban areas, feel that having guns in a house poses a dierct threat to a child. We have no idea what further conversation took place between teacher/child, or child/agency etc. The teacher is trying to cover his/her ass. I don't agree with the sentiment or the actions, but I can understand the report from the teacher's cya standpoint. What exactly here is socialist?

She never actually did it, but she can see them from here living room. That's the same as actual experience, really.....

Many European countries have the same. Draft dodgers in Holland for instance get a very different treatment than draft dodgers in the US. More recently, military personal refusing to obey the government aren't particularly applauded. Well, those who can find it on a map maybe.

Probably a rise in shoplifting.

Probably something very close to the truth. What do they teach in US schools about the incredibly high murder rate compared to other civilized societies?

Ah yes, your insults are fine, other's are not. That definition would come in mighty handy.

Please you have Americans invading countries all over the place. Further, most pay their taxes, pay fines and live within the letter of the law. Many had no problem putting Japanese in camps, or blindly believing that when the government said somebody was a communist, they were a communist. You may trust your government less, but you have no recent history to indicate Americans do not comply to the commands of their government.

Interesting how you were fine with generalizations until that point. Don't know him enough. But based on ethnicity he is more likely to murder some one than if born and raised in Europe. True, though I will take riot over murder. ymmv Yet it seems to "work" for murder rates, since you are about 6 to 7 times more likely to be murdered in Texas compared to Germany.

That can't be it though, since the availability of guns is also supposed to prevent it from happening.

Yet you have no problem with calling people gun-o-phobes when they don't agree with you. You really should look up that definition of hypocrite.

Many people believe that is not the correct place for them though, since they should be readily available should a home invasion take place.

I wonder if some of those terms would come up in polls of Iraqis and Afghanistanis.

Nice cherry picking. If you want to contend that european societies are more violent than US society. Fine, whatever makes you sleep better at night. But when looking at things like intentional homocide rates per capita, it isn't overly supportable. Americans like to be violent and clearly have some self control problems.

Kinda strange that the last forty years is when the gun control laws started taking effect. And as more control is put on the laws, we end up with more and more of these incidents. Hence I have concluded that gun control laws are misanthropic. Notice how many of these occur at schools? First, they are kids. Understandable. But second, schools are where one find sitting ducks. If a person wants to go on a spree homicide, it is rare that they go where the guns are. Even in the Army, weapons are strictly controlled. Hence a mass murder at Ft. Hood can occur because there are no defense resources available. So tell me, why is it that you want to ensure people are defenseless against those who wish to do harm and kill them? As gun controls increase, the mass murders increase. That is not arguable. There is a correlation here. Maybe that works in Germany, where there's a rich history of headlong belief in government policy. If Germany could go for a century without starting world wars and without committing genocide, then perhaps there could be some moral superiority. Same with the US. We're in twelve years into this century and Germany has behaved itself nicely. It just boggles my mind how any German citizen can trust their government at all. "Nein. You won't need your guns. We're the government, and we won't hurt anybody." Seriously - how the hell could a German ever trust his or her government again? I am more interested in finding out why Americans are more likely to go on mass murder shooting sprees. What makes American society that much more violent?

Maybe, but when you know somebody personally, things change in your perception. There are enough examples on this site of people who laud the accomplishments of people who have died due to stupidity or poor decision making.

Exactly. Everybody wants the economy fixed, but since it is clearly the fault of the other party, they need to suffer, not us.

All those weapons didn't help much in Atlanta in 1996. But then that was a "statement" against socialism from a great american conservative....

Yet you continue to reply and put words in my mouth, after I have specifically stated that it has nothing to do with politics. You may want to find the definition for hypocrite.

Funny coming from the guy who labels everybody who doesn't agree with him a gun-o-phobe.... Get a grip...it is Speakers Corner.

You may have just solved America's energy problem.

Nope, not a trick question at all. I happen to agree with you. JR, Gravitymaster, DaVinci, rushmc and the like will now think yuo are a rabid anti-gunner with irrational fears though. Hope you and your family stay safe.

Actually, my question is perfect for this threat,s ince it is not related to politics at all. This thread is about which tool is effective for a specific purpose. In the other threat your co-horts are telling me bats are just as effective as guns. Steve1 is experienced with arms, only fair to ask him the question. I also note you have not answered the question either.

No at all JR. In that same thread I agree with people owning guns based on your 2nd Amendment. But this might be a good place to ask steve1 which tool he would consider more effective at killing people, or maybe in this case for self defence: A bat or a firearm?