Channman

Maybe we could learn alittle from our history. Governor Bradford wrote this in 1621 or 1623 forget the actual date but have I believe the correct writing. "The experience that was had in this commone course and condition, tired sundrie years, and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince the vanitie of that conceite of Platos and other ancients, applauded by some of later times; that the taking away of propertie, and bringing in communitie into a comone wealth would make them happy and florishing; as if they were wiser than God. For this comunitie so farr as it was, was found to breed much confusion and discontente, and retard much imployment that would have been to their benefite and comforte. For the yong-men that were most able and fitte for labour and service did repine that they should spend their time and streingth to worke for other mens wives and children, with out any recompense. The strong, or man or parts, had no more in divission of victails and cloaths, than he that was weake and not able to doe a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice. The aged and graver men to be ranked and equalisedin labours, and victuals, cloaths, etc., wtih the meaner and younger sorte, thought it some indignite and disrespect unto them. And for men's wives to be commanded to doe service for other men, as dresing their meate, washing their cloaths, etc., they deemed it a kind of slavery, neither could many husbands well brooke it." When has it become one mans responsiblity to meet the needs of another man who is capable but yet not willing to meet his own obligations?

If the tandem master and student end up in the water with rough seas, assuming that flotation devices can keep the pair on the surface, staying connected could help to keep the two people together. I'm not saying that this is or isn't the correct thing to do, I'm just answering your question. Definitely NOT the thing top do. That's why ya need a flotation device for each person...can't swim or maneuver strapped together, and after time the gear will soak up water & sink. And how about if one person panics, the other is bolted to a 'drowning' scared man . If you want to tie-off together, hook-knife a suspension line. Flotation for each jumper is a good idea as well being manditory, however in rough seas the parachute, if still connected can act as a sea anchor and can submerge the instructor and student with flotation activated. So cutting the main away and disconnecting the student I believe is important Also Spare Air for both student and instructor is a good idea if a water landing could occur giving the instructor and student up to 15 breaths of air and if submerged they could skip breath giving them additional time to work out of entanglements.

Clever, but it really only avoids the question I'm asking: When forced to choose, do you choose in favor of protecting your nation from probable attack from her enemies or in favor of ideals for which your nation stands despite understanding that the cost will most likely be in lives? I was avoiding the question, I didn't have a good answer unless of course torture is involved

Set up a mock death of Carl. Move him and his family into protective custody and financially compensate him for his injuries, while keeping Adam in the dark.

She is most certainly grandstanding and setting herself up for a run at the Oval Office in 2012. However I do feel her moves are sincere. I believe her best oppertunity is not the POTUS but as a Junior Senator from Alaska.

QuoteC'mon Channing -- the original comment was just as silly and tongue-in-cheek. I'm sure there have been conservatives who have worked on movies that were positive about liberals, too. Let's not conflate movies with reality. And the Bataan Death March was a great example of why none of us should ever go there. It lessens everyone involved. > OK, your right, I'm out of line. Next time you see me you can kick me in the butt during my exit.

Now, your just being an ass.

Oh, man, you just brought back some memories of what a 'Nam vet told me years ago. The version of the helicopter ride he told me was somewhat humorous, but the other technique he told me about was worse than anything I've heard since, and I'll never repeat it. My sister in law's Grandfather who by the way passed away two weeks ago was a survivor of the Bataan Death March. There were no Christians involved in the torture they endured as POWs.

Liberals write, produce and act out 24. It appears they have enbraced torture as a means to an end.

$300.00 a month, not bad, but how much is the deductable?

Arlen felt more comfortable on the Left side of the Senate Chamber. But I also agree with you, that we could do better than this Specter.

I went PeePee in the Gulf of Mexico, twice. Oh and I burned some trees in my outdoor fireplace while relaxing in the spa.

By effectively capping earnings at £50kpa you stifle entrepreneurial spirit. Why take on extra risks and responsibilities when your earnings will never reflect the extra work? You've just created a nation where mediocre is the pinnacle of the career ladder. So instead, how about the people stop increasing their needs? Lets not have breast enhancement on the NHS. No IVF treatment on the NHS. No right to council housing for life. Stop handouts to illegal immigrants. etc etc. All I'm trying to do is spread the wealth around. Its hardly fair that these very successful individuals who have taken every oppertunity to improve their lives financially have a better standard of living then any one else. Everyone should have a equal share so to speak. Well, I was just trying out the new era of Obama, Something for Nothing. I was looking at this issue from the eyes of a liberal. So I decided that for one day I would try and see what life would be like if I set around today with my hand out. I really don't understand your greed, (speaking as a liberal for one day only) that you would not see the need and helping your fellow man/women out financially. Should not your hard earned wage be taken from you and given to me because I might have a need of: Child Care, so I can go to work or not After school programs so I can have some time to myself Car expenses, so I can go to work or not Monthly assistance in paying Toll charges Free health care, but you need to pay Precription drugs Food Stamps Mortgage/Rent payments 4 year college education payed of course by you Oh, I also need a phone Computer These are just a few examples in how your hard work and your personal income can benefit me and my family.

By effectively capping earnings at £50kpa you stifle entrepreneurial spirit. Why take on extra risks and responsibilities when your earnings will never reflect the extra work? You've just created a nation where mediocre is the pinnacle of the career ladder. So instead, how about the people stop increasing their needs? Lets not have breast enhancement on the NHS. No IVF treatment on the NHS. No right to council housing for life. Stop handouts to illegal immigrants. etc etc. All I'm trying to do is spread the wealth around. Its hardly fair that these very successful individuals who have taken every oppertunity to improve their lives financially have a better standard of living then any one else. Everyone should have a equal share so to speak.

Still not enough, the rate should be at minimum 70% of every pound earned to meet the growing needs of the people. Also the rate should apply to those who earn 50,000/year or more.

From FT.com Financial Times. "US to put conditions on Tarp repayment" "Strong banks will be allowed to repay bail-out funds they received from the US government but only if such a move passes a test to determine whether it is in the national economic interest, a senior administration official has told the Financial Times". This is BS... like a mortgage company telling me I can't pay off my mortgage, until I can pass some test they devised and will determine if I meet their standards for paying off my mortgage. There is a plan, and that plan is CONTROL of the Financial Institutions.

You Right-Wing Extremist Bastard, don't worry putting your name on the list, I'll place it there for you, just below my name. I'm just wondering???, is there a list for Left wing Extremists, I'm thinking there might be with all the global Warming wackjobs and anarchist trashing cities and burning SUVs and jumping into cages with Pollar Bears. I must now return to my self imposed Banning.

Got me before I was able to edit my response...

Sorry, but it was alittle boring, maybe some pop up pictures?

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/134003/foreclosure_crisis_hits_warp_speed%3A_6_million_families_face_losing_their_homes_in_the_next_three_years/ A two bedroom apartment comes to mind and getting a new job. How about them Un-employment benifits they can take care of the rent, and I can fleece my fellow Americans for additional benefits such as food stamps. I should be able to get by for at least a year. Some people want to change the world, others just want a free ride. As Dan Rathers once said, "Courage...Courage". Now back to my self imposed banning

Damn, I think the Welfare tag on the good people of Alaska is somewhat of a slap in the face. I guess you think of them as a bunch of Hay Seed Hicks. California holds the #1 spot as a Welfare State.

Now we can get those Drug Cartels to pay their fair share. Cash, thats the way I like to get paid.

So what should you get for throwing Cruise Missiles at another country's leader? Don't be so stupid, you ever try and pick on of them things up, there pretty damn heavy. Thats why we light em off and let em fly so the bad guys die.

THEN THEY SETTLED! That was about racial redlining, not about lowering standards. ***Try again. Sorry dude, I didn't realize you worked for ACORN The Key word for you is alleged, typical wording for a group of people looking to extort money from a bank. It would be nice to hear Citi Bank's response to get both sides. But, maybe its just class envy on your part, you might not be able to see that a group of people might be trying to play the system for their own benefit.

Well I tried to post some evidence in post 23.