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http://www.abtassociates.com/reports/IPET_9_Hurricane_Katrina_Health_Effects.pdf Bill, I thought the 1800 to 2500 death are on the high side. But I do agree that at least 97% can live without government protection. > As of February 23, 2006, 950 bodies were examined at the St. Gabriel morgue. The results of the examinations are available for 750 victims. The identity and cause of death of the remaining victims have not been released. Of these 750 released cases, the Louisiana coroner determined that Hurricane Katrina explicitly caused 727 fatalities. As demonstrated in Table 2-1, the deaths were overwhelmingly among New Orleans metro area residents, with only 2% of deaths among residents of other areas in Louisiana, visitors from out of state, or people of unknown residence. Mortality was evenly distributed by sex. However, only 46.5% of New Orleans metro area residents prior to the hurricane were male, so males are somewhat over-represented among the identified dead. The Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals coroner determined that about two dozen deaths were not “storm related,” instead occurring by “violence or suspicious means.”(Bourque et al. 2006b

I charge Hamas with war crimes, and crimes against humanity. (Just to make it fair)

I'm so confused, I plan on seeing a doctor to get help before it's to late.

I have to say I'm an American, but I'm damn sure I don't suffer from a mental disorder which is associated with Liberalism.

Well for starters it would help if everyone knew of Tsvangirai. Obama, I think received the award for political reasons more so than his efforts for peace. Maybe all one needs to do is TALK, to win a million dollar award. Is Obama required to split the reward with his Teleprompter.

I'm a little concerned with how you worded your poll. I'll need to check other sources such as CBS or Zogby.

Well, I feel better now knowing you approve.

I did about 45 seconds of research, because I'm a little lazy right now and found this...I want take the time to provide a link because, well I'm just to lazy to do it at the moment. A perfect example is provided by recent polling from Rasmussen and CBS on the public option. CBS puts support for the public option at 65%. Rasmussen meanwhile puts support at just 35% for the public option. Is it really possible for either organization (with decent reputations) to be off by 30% in their projections? CBS ask their audience about the public option with the following question: "Would you favor or oppose government offering everyone a government-administered health insurance plan like Medicare that would compete with private insurance?" Compare that question with the Rasmussen question which asks: "Would it be a good idea to set up a government health insurance company to compete with private health insurance companies?" The CBS poll is clearly more friendly to public option in asking about government offering a "plan" which is "like Medicare" to "compete with private insurance." The idea of a "plan" is much more acceptable than government setting up a "company" under the Rasmussen poll. In addition Medicare is a relatively popular program so setting up a "plan" like Medicare would increase support among many survey participants including seniors. So what can we conclude from these polls? Like most things in politics the rejection or acceptance of an idea largely depends on who you ask and the wording of the question. Whether the public option is supported by a majority of Americans depends largely on whether you believe government is setting up a "plan like Medicare" or a "company."

Nope. Most people support a public option along with private insurance. The people are speaking but legislators are only listening to those with the most "free $peech." > "Most people support a public option..." Not hardly dude, people don't support this bill, nor the Public Option. Typical Lib, saying, "Most Americans support...." before every sentance.

Givin the bastards, ah, roughly 84K and fuck me since Im outta work. Damned if ya do and damned if ya don't I guess. Guess I should be happy I didn't need it. Kind of like Life Insurance

I was thinking about this crap of the big “O” making it mandatory for Insurers to cover preexisting conditions. Kind of like forcing an insurer to provide full coverage for a home owner only after his house is on fire. Homeowner, "Hello, I need to purchase some fire insurance." Insurer, "OK, is your house currently in flames? "Yes, but your still required to provide coverage under the law, aren't ya" Insurer, "That Son of a Bitch".

Well once again, no one is forced to put up with "IN GOD WE TRUST" on their government issued currency. Now you may not like having it there, but I like it, and thats all that matters to me.

> Just like the school made all those kids sing that song about Obama... Well, those little ones appeared to be around the ages of 5 and 6. They were not forced to sing inappropriate songs, they didn’t know any better. I think you see the difference.

Forced to recite?? Hell Bill, thats why its very hard to take Leftist seriously. They pull this kind of shit out of their ass.

Indroctrinization\brainwashing...so now I'm beginning to understand why the Leftist that visit this blog bow before their new God "O" for their daily bread.

> It's like making "Yo Momma" jokes Yo Momma, is so fat, when she was dignosed with a flesh eating decease, the doctors gave her 89 years to live. Kind of like that joke?

> The ABC apology is for something one of their reporters did with a comment made by the President during a session that was supposed to be off the record. And that reporter's name whould be Terry Moran of Night Line.

> Heckling the President on national television is in VERY POOR taste. The same respect the Dem's gave GWB during his 2005 State of the Union speach when he was Booed? Hell, I'm a little tired of the left given us lessons on decorum when they themselves lack in it. It is interesting that the subject is Congressmen Wilson's lack of respect, and not the lies flowing from the lips of the President. Now maybe I shouldn't call the President a liar, that's not at all in good taste, maybe I'll call him, "Story Guy".

Well I guess the parients fears that the president would get political was correct. Sean just happened upon that question in his sleep the night before. Well, that's all I've got to say about that.

> The verdict: False. A new report finds the bill could require illegal immigrants to buy coverage, but it clearly restricts subsidies to U.S. citizens and legal residents. Really, then maybe you could give us all the section in HR 3200 as stated in CNN's new report which states illegal immigrants COULD BE REQUIRED to buy coverage and restricts subsidies to only U.S. citizens and legal residents.

And to think for the last few hours I was thinking Wison was a Hero, my bad. GWB State of the Union 2005 was Booed by the Democrats, no outrage from the Left Wing. I therefore have no outrage for a member of congress only stating the obvious. As for Joe Wilson's chances for re-election I think he will do just fine.

http://www.brookfieldnow.com/blogs/communityblogs/58085647.html The Pre Speech to the students was given to a select group of students and was held in the school libary as reported by MSNBC which never mentioned or intended to imform the public of the actual intent of the meeting. Not to mention a young freshmen was hand feed a question by the school to ask a question the President was assured he would recieve as if it came honestly from the student's own mouth. The State Run Media, as they appear to be is working closly with the White House to shove a product down the throats of American's who have made it very clear they don't want it.

I found out about the pre speech listening to all things, "Local Talk Radio". I will link to article but you can call the school which has been contacted by 950 KPRC Houston to confirm the speach did occur.

> Attacking for use of funds is still attacking, but its VERY different than denouncing the president BEFORE he even speaks saying he is going to indoctrinate and brainwash all of America's children. Obama pitches Health Care at Wakefield High School By Kyle Prast Sept. 9, 2009 11:00 a.m. Today I learned* that prior to the president's very conservative national broadcast address to America's school children, he met with 40 freshmen at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. (Same school he made his broadcast address from) Let's just say I don't think that meeting made the national news, but CNS reported it: Obama Pitched Universal Health Care to Students in Meeting Prior to His Speech on Education. It was a face to face Q&A session with innocuous questions like how has your life changed, how would your life be different if you father were involved, who would you like to have dinner with, and what were your main goals when you were in college, etc. The session was filmed, but not broadcast as far as I know. Transcript It seemed Obama could not resist steering the question, "How [do] you motivate yourself to do all the work that goes along with your job?", toward discussing his health care reforms. He replied, "... I'm just going to be honest with you -- some of it is just you don't want to fail. Right? A lot of people are counting on me," and went on to talk about the 40,000 letters he receives a day on all different subjects. He reads 10 a day -- some inspiring, some depressing. He elaborated on both. The inspiring being about someone who was the first to go to college. The depressing, "You hear about people who are sick but don't have health care, and suddenly they get a bill for $100,000, and there's no way they can pay for it, and they're about to lose their house." "And you're just reminded that the country is full of really good people who sometimes are going through a hard time. They just need a break. They need a little bit of help. Maybe the way things are set up right now isn't always fair for people, and that motivates you, because you say, well, I can't make everything perfect, I can't prevent somebody from getting sick, but maybe I can make sure that they've got insurance so that when they do get sick, they're going to get some help." Arne then announces, "Last question." Obama asks, "Who's got the mic? Well, he already had the mic, so we'll give two last questions. These two right here. Go ahead." The first was from a guy who wanted to be president and was just asking for advice. The second question was more notable, which coincidentally was the very subject of Obama's joint session of Congress address the next day, not to mention a pretty precocious question for a freshman. No wonder Obama wanted to take that one. The newbie Freshman asked, "...currently 36 countries have universal health coverage, including Iraq and Afghanistan, which have it paid for by the United States. Why can't the United States have universal health coverage?" Obama gives his standard pep-talk concluding his health care discussion with his usual vague generalities of how this will work despite the actual language of the bill. "So what we're trying to do is set up a system where people who have health insurance on the job, they can keep it, but if you don't have health insurance for the job, if you're self-employed, if you're unemployed, that you're able to get health insurance through another way. And we can afford to do it and it will actually, I think, over time save us money if we set that up. All right?" (No mention of how paying for all this will rest upon this freshman class' generation and all to come, or how nations like the UK have severe health care rationing.) So that was the under-reported face-to-face discussion with the president, that just happened to include a specific question from that odd subject list included in the email to the nation's principals.

Seem to be very good people. Enjoy spending time with them, as well as skydiving with a few of them. I seem to bump into them often her in south Texas.