MikeForsythe

There, fixed it for you. It will go by quick. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Quit thinking, I'm still here waiting for you to show up at the dock. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

I finished PT today and have been on the boat.......you are way behind on the drinking girl Come on down and I will explain the alphabet to you. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Female and has a pulse................the pulse is negotiable Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

There, fixed it for you Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

You might try HERE. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

So Sad Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Every time a helicopter does a 270 while reporting the news this happens Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

You don't own a trailer do you? Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Then you have made a mistake. I have sat on several BOD both for profit and non-profit the most recent being an organization with 70,000 members. I have also served as Parliamentarian. Contrary to your belief you are not the only educated person here. Yes I can speak “authoritatively” as I have seen BOD misuse RR as a shield and bully members before. I made the statement as a general statement for any BOD of any organization that it would apply to. If you are somehow feeling offended or guilty maybe you should ask yourself why? No, in fact I can not imagine a professional administrator acting so sophomoric in the 21st Century. Talk about a lack of confidence. If I went around worrying if everyone was happy with me then I would not be doing my job. If they act like that then they need to be replaced. And what happens when they are in and you vote against them on a issue, by your statement they could not like or help you then? I can not believe that as educated as you are that you would even make such statements. Now explain to me how so many of the non-profit member organizations do so well voting out in the open? Explain why states have enacted laws to prevent “secret ballots” in non-profit member organizations? Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

It is a shame when board members use Roberts Rules as a shield to justify unacceptable behavior. RR are voluntary guidelines and can not circumvent law which is why states are enacting laws to prevent the very thing you just quoted. The question begs why would you need or want to vote by secret ballot for an ED? Why do organizations bigger and better than the USPA not have to or see the need to hide things from the members? Also you answer fails to address the first part of my question. Based on your response my previous statement stands. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

That is a contradiction. If the USPA is a non-profit member driven organization then why are we having "secret ballots" How can a member tell if their elected BOD is representing their views if they don't know how they are voting. In most respected member organizations and in some by state law the only time that a board can meet and vote out of the presence of the membership is in Executive Session for reasons of disciple or pending litigation which after there is resolution the information is available to the membership. If this is how the USPA does business then they just lost another member. A simple majority of what, the voting BOD present at the meeting or the whole BOD? Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

How would you know of such things? Oh, that's right your a Marine Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Jump Shack makes a 298 FireBolt Tandem main that rocks. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

While you would probably do okay because of your background, review their (Airborne Assist) basic training syllabus. It teaches some basic skills and is defiantly a step in the right direction but at this time it deviates from real world operational procedures. I looked at going last year and decided to hold off to wait and see if the syllabus will change. RAM is one of the best organizations of its type and is defiantly a worthwhile group to work with. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

That is a shame to hear if true because that means we may not be getting the best person for the position. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Like that was a surprise......NOT Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

This stuff works great. I have used it for years when flying dogs from Europe to the USA. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

WOW, Forest Gump comes to mind right about now Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

This well intentioned idea could turn on you. There is a reason that we have ground based pranks that have been listed above. There, the furthest anyone can fall is about 6' (well most of the time). Ponder this, if anything were to happen on this jump regardless of the cause YOU are now at the center of it. Would you want to live with that? Also if something were to happen you have now opened yourself to possible civil and criminal prosecution. Are you also willing to pay to have his gear taken apart, cleaned, assembled and repacked? And then there is that whole potential of an ass whipping that could happen because when you screw with peoples gear their attitude can an has been known to change. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Not everyone But you are right Scott, using the proven system with a console is the only way that this should be done. I would even go further to say that I would use the system for the lower jumps just for the experience and to work out any issues such as bottle location, regulator and hose placement. This way when he goes to do the 30K+ jump he will not be adding anything new to the jump as far as equipment and have one less thing to worry about. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Except that what you are proposing does not apply in this application. He is not jumping a ruck sack so he does not need a system designed to do so. The military has Javelins and Vectors that the instructors jump HALO that are normal containers. CPS even offers them as there instructor series containers. There was extensive testing done on both sport vs. tandem containers for the military and we found that the sport containers failed at about 8K lbs and the tandem at 14K lbs. So the weak link here is not the container it is the canopy and the person. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Now you tell me. I am already out and back home. I will be able to drive up in about two weeks. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

Your right Lee, I did not know how to take out a tree with a trailer before you showed me that one. I always avoided the trees, silly me. Oh, and when you taught me how to use the same tree as my dog, that was helpful too. I won't be in Deland for a while as I just had a hip replacement last Monday. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

If I were at a point in my life that I needed Lee to tell me what to do I think that I would just euthanize myself Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!