Many thanks for the info on sugar loaf key mate much appreciated. If i ever make it back to the states where do you suggest for the best skydive experience. It would have to be tandem as i have only managed the one jump at sugar loaf. Really want to do more but havent got round to it. It was the best feeling in the world though and so hard to explain to people exactly how good !! Anyway cheers for the info, enjoy the rest of the summer. Tim