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Even Berkshire-Hathaway is down 10% on the year! If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

So it reduces the benefit from giving, but does not eliminate it. And this is probably for adjusted gross income of $250,000. Which means that you take all the business deductions first. That means that if you're a small business owner taking home $250,000 (already less than 20% of small business owners), you are vanishingly unlikely to have this as an issue. Donald Trump is likely to be impacted. Wendy W. Re-read my post. My point was/is that Obama said people earning less that $250K won't have a tax hike, then we find the number is $209K for having certain deductions reduced or cut altogether. Gross or net, business owner or W-2 employee, it's still a sham. A reduction in deductions IS a tax hike. And here's another good one. You know why Obama is giving tax rebates rather than just cutting the tax rate? Because you'll have to pay income taxes on your rebate!! $13 extra per week in your pocket? Try more like $8 or $9. Welcome to change, comrades. this is a loosing battle, the koolaid is too strong, the left doesn't believe in hard work, pay your own way, and donate to things you care about. the left believes in government knows best and welfare for the lazy and unmotivated. when was the last time government took something over and did a better job at a cheaper price than letting private companies do the job with compitition? You must be thinking of companies like GM, Chrysler, and the following list of 2008 bankruptcies of MAJOR corporations: AIG (insurance)**** Agriprocessors, Inc. (food services) Aloha Airlines (airline) American Color Graphics (newspaper) Ascendia Brands (retail) ATA (airline) Bear Stearns (banking)**** Bill Heard Enterprises (auto) Bluepoint RE (insurance) Blue Water Holdings (auto) Boscov’s (retail) Brooke Corporation (insurance) Buffets Holdings (restaurants) CDX Gas, LLC (energy) Chesapeake Corporation (packaging products) Ciena Capital (real estate) Circuit City (electronics retail) Comfort Co. (bedding) DBSI Inc. (real estate) Downey Financial (banking) Dreier LLP (legal services) Dynamic Leisure (travel) Eclipse Aviation (airplane manufacturer) Education Resource Institute (insurance) Empire Land (real estate) Eos Airlines (airline) Equity Media Holdings Corporation (media) EZ Lube, LLC (auto services) Fashion House Holdings (retail) Flying J (trucking and transportation services) Fortunoff (retail) Franklin Bank Corp. (banking) Friedman’s Jewelers (retail) Fred Leighton Holdings (retail) Fremont General (banking) Frontier Airlines (airline) Gainey Corporation (trucking) Gemini Air Cargo (air delivery/freight) GETRAG Transmission Manufacturing LLC (auto manufacturing) Goody’s (retail) Greatwide Logistics (trucking) Greektown Holdings (casino) Hawaiin Telecom Communications, Inc. (telecom) Hospital Partners of America (healthcare) HRP Myrtle Beach Holdings (entertainment) Indymac (banking) Integra Hospital Plano, LLC (healthcare) Integrity Bancshares, Inc. (banking) JHT Holdings (trucking/transportation) KB Toys, Inc. (retail) Key Plastics, LLC (auto manufacturer) Laketown Wharf (real estate) LandAmerica Financial Group (insurance) Land Resource, LLC (real estate) Landsource (real estate) Legends Gaming (casino) Lehman Brothers (banking) Lenox Group (tableware) Lillian Vernon (retail) Linens n’ Things (retail) Luminent Mortgage Capital (banking) Kimball Hill (real estate) Landsource Community Development (real estate) Matrix Development Corporation (real estate) Mervyn’s (retail) Mortgages Ltd. (banking) Motorcoach Industries International (transportation) MPC Corporation (computers) MPF Corp. (transportation) Mrs. Fields Famous Brands (food services) National Wholesale Liquidators, Inc. (retail) NetVersant Solutions (IT services) PFF Bancorp, Inc. (banking) Pierre Foods (food services) Pilgrim’s Pride Corporation (food services) Pope & Talbot, Inc. (pulp/wood products) PPI Holdings, Inc. (auto manufacturer) PRC LLC (business services consulting) Propext (textiles) Quebecor World (USA), Inc. (office services/printing) Red Envelope (retail) Rock Well Petroleum, Inc. (energy) Sharper Image (retail) Silverjet Airlines (airline) Sirva (moving services) Skybus (airline) STA Restaurants - Bennigan’s (restaurants) Steakhouse Partners (restaurants) Steve and Barry’s (retail) Storm Cat Energy Corporation (energy) SunCal Bickford Ranch, LLC (real estate) Syntax-Brillian - Olevia (electronics) Taro Properties (real estate) Tribune Company (media) Tropicana (casinos) Vail Plaza Development (real estate) Value City Department Stores (retail) VeraSun Energy (alternative energy) Vicorp (restaurants) Village Homes of Colorado, Inc. (real estate) Washington Mutual (banking) WCI (real estate) Whitehall Jewelers (jewelry) WHM Copper Mountain Investments (investment company) Wickes Furniture (retail) Woodside Group (real estate) WorldSpace, Inc. (satellite broadcasting) Ziff Davis (media) If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Sure worked for Bush, didn't it? He cut taxes and the economy is booming. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Income tax is not the only source of government revenue. Your model is flawed. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

He doesn't have any - he's just blowing smoke trying to look macho. BTW, where do you jump? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

What about Liverpool fans? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

But it's much harder for us to invade Poland. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

don't you have anything new to add? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

May we assume you're referring to currently illegal drugs rather than prescription or over-the-counter drugs like my blood pressure medication? Otherwise your question is silly. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

No, he did not - he LIED on the form. Unfortunately, the state did not flag the NICS database, so he did not trigger an alert. OMG, people LIE on the form? Oh the humanity. Say it ain't so. I don't suppose it occurred to you that this might be a little problem with self-certification? No, I don't suppose it did. Now I have to go to work. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

So... you are in favor of having all psychiatric medical records available to public inspection? Well... good thing that we might be going to that anyway. Who needs patient/physician confidentiality anyway? Or are you in favor of demanding that all firearm owners take a psych evaluation? Would that make you feel "safer"? STRAWMAN ALERT. I wrote no such thing. I'm trying to clarify what mnealtx meant when he wrote: "I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal and is not under psychiatric treatment." No... I'm asking YOU. You obviously have problems with what he said. I'm asking YOU what you want. I would prefer not to arm someone who is under psychiatric treatment. mnealtx's comments show that he only cares that they CLAIM not to be under psychiatric treatment. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

So... you are in favor of having all psychiatric medical records available to public inspection? Well... good thing that we might be going to that anyway. Who needs patient/physician confidentiality anyway? Or are you in favor of demanding that all firearm owners take a psych evaluation? Would that make you feel "safer"? STRAWMAN ALERT. I wrote no such thing. I'm trying to clarify what mnealtx meant when he wrote: "I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal and is not under psychiatric treatment." If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Nice rant, but you aren't answering his question. Are YOU ok with self-certification? No - the question is, why is he NOT ok with self-certification? We're discussing self-certification of sanity here. The answer to your question is self evident. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

You still dodge and weave. You wrote: "I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal and is not under psychiatric treatment." Apparently this is NOT what you meant. You don't care if they ARE under treatment, you only care about what they CLAIM to be. Your recent statements show that what you really meant was: "I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal or a convicted felon and claims that he or she is not under psychiatric treatment." Is that more accurate? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Self-certification is the law - why do you have a problem with it? After all, the Brady Bunch *SWORE* that their check would prevent hundreds of thousands of illegal sales EVERY YEAR!!! Of course, there's been an absolutely MINISCULE number of arrests out of those hundreds of thousands of denials that they SWORE would happen - I guess actually catching CRIMINALS trying to buy GUNS in an ILLEGAL manner wasn't all THAT important to the Brady folks after all, now was it? Avoiding my question. Are you OK with someone walking out of their psychiatrist's office, going to a gun shop and self certifying that they are sane? Mr. Cho managed to buy his guns quite legally. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Swing and a miss. You're trying to troll, plain and simple. You're doing that by ignoring what Mike has said. No Dave, you are ignoring what I wrote. I QUOTED what he said wrote. He wrote: "I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal and is not under psychiatric treatment." Nothing there about convicted felons. I also asked how he would know if someone was under psychiatric treatment, and his answer was form 4473 Q12 (which amounts to self-certification). He's OK with that. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

You have no concept of the current laws in place to prevent your "scenario" from happening. ). I'm not discussing current laws, I'm discussing mnealtx's statement about what HE is OK with. mnealtx wrote: "I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal and is not under psychiatric treatment" If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Glad you think that the murder of innocents is somehow amusing. I don't. But you have no objection to arming the shooters. I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal and is not under psychiatric treatment. Do you have a problem with that? So you'd have no problem with gun purchasers having to provide concrete evidence that they are not under psychiatric treatment? Form 4473, question 12f. Form 4473, question 12c. Are you done trolling yet? So self certification is OK with you? I certify I am not a nutcase, I'd like that AK47 please. Your answers contradict your earlier statement. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

No Captain, I didn't miss that. You may be unaware though that the Bill of Rights supercedes any other part of the Constitution. Thus, while the Constitution does empower Congress to levy taxes , the 5th ammendment prohibits income taxes(confiscation of private property for public use). Blues, Cliff Have you notified the IRS? I expect they'll all pack up and go home. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Don't forget this. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

I'm sorry, you were saying? Seems that you are now straying from "it was all the Dems fault" and conceding that leading Republicans actually led the charge. Progress! If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Glad you think that the murder of innocents is somehow amusing. I don't. But you have no objection to arming the shooters. I have no objection to arming someone that is not a wanted criminal and is not under psychiatric treatment. Do you have a problem with that? So you'd have no problem with gun purchasers having to provide concrete evidence that they are not under psychiatric treatment? How about someone who just last week got out of 15 years in prison for armed robbery, is not currently wanted. OK for him to buy an assault weapon? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Apparently in your haste to whine you missed this part of the Constitution: Section 8 - Powers of Congress The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; Apparently in your haste to whine.... Which duties, imposts and excises does Congress levy that are non-uniform? How does that affect Congress's power to impose taxes? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

The "Enron Loophole" of which you write was sponsored by Phil Gramm (R) and supported by John "the Deregulator" McCain. baltimorechronicle.com/2008/051908Leopold.shtml Then Bush lied to support his buddy Ken Lay: www.consortiumnews.com/2006/052506.html If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

It's not hard to understand. You just won't accept the answer. The housing bubble is the primary cause of the current overall economic situation, and the housing bubble was caused by ludicrous decisions in Washington at the hands of Clinton, Dodd, Frank, and their buddies. This is all well established. You just keep looking for an answer you like. Irony score 10/10. Plenty of data has been presented (as opposed to opinion pieces which you present) and you refuse to accept. You have not presented a single item that proves that CRA, Dodds or Frank, fannie, or Freddie CAUSED the banks to behave in the irresponsible way that lead to the crisis. If any congressional action encouraged bad behavior by banks, look to Gramm (R), Leach(R) and Bliley(R). So you are completely discounting the New York Times article attached to the OP's post? How many more noteworthy news sources do you want that are simply reporting what is part of the public record? I'm sure there are others, I just don't wish to spend my time doing the research. You can easily find it too, if you care to see the other side of things. More importantly, none of the players involved have denied what they did. They just deny that it caused the problem. Not good enough? Hit youtube. There's plenty of taped proceedings with those in question saying exactly what I and others here say they said. Read what economists say too. Let that be your proof. It has the rest of us convinced. NYT and youtube don't prove causation of anything at all. Do you know what "causation" means? Because your posts strongly suggest that you don't have a clue. Show me proof that investment banks bought "securitized mortgages" because of government action. Show me proof that government action forced ratings agencies to give ratings to securitized mortgage investments that were way too high. Show me proof that the government in any way forced anyone to participate in credit default swaps. Show me, and you may have a point. Otherwise you have nothing. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.