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He's certainly not a big cuddly bear. More like one of those novelty ones you get on a key ring

...... guilty EDIT: minus the gay part

Don't fall for it, he's just trying to work on his good guy image after that room101 thread. lol

Beacuse they are powerful and provoke emotion and aren't glamourising it at all. Just good videos. Is that alright... darling?

Well, I think its safe to say everyone missed the point of the videos. When we are affected by powerful things that happen we do what seems right, looking to people up top for direction of what to do, whether its right or not, people have the courage to do this duty and they deserve our support, even if the war as a whole doesn't.

No probs. I've seen people spray some shitty layer of cheapo paint over the panel when they've finished it. They may be your best bet if you know its going to be some time before you'll get the whole thing done. At least then its waterproof and with any luck all you'll need to do is block the panel with a bit of 320, finishing in 500 grit paper. Then bit of non-sand and paint.... but its harder than it sounds You may find this website useful for preperation info. The standard of the workmanship looks OK, not brilliant, but its a good guide as to how far back you need to take the bare metal areas compared to the size of the repair: http://www.jackspaintplace.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=2&pos=5

Eww yuk, no way don't do that. The primer will act as a protective layer yes but it will get covered in road grime and will get wet. When you take it to the bodyshop they will sigh then remove all the primer and start again probably interfering with your repairs and have to rectify them adding yet more labour. Is there no way you can keep it off the road?

OK cool, sounds like a fun project if you got the space. Leaving the panels in etch primer is a good idea but etch is designed as a very thin layer, it is really a non sand primer. When used in the paint booth it is applied very quickly and you should be able to see through it, we (differnet companies have different guidelines) used to then apply a 2k primer over the top of it. However you need to lay alot of etch on to prevent corrosion. Do it, but build up in lots of slow layers, be patient. If you load on etch primer (which is very thin anyway) it will run all over the place. Slow smooth movements with the gun is best, just lift off the trigger slightly at the end of your motions to prevent a build up of paint/primer at the end of the fan as else you would effectively be painting that part twice. As for electrode rust prevention, I've really not had any dealings with them to be honest. Theres no reason why it shouldn't be a good project if your patient and work methodically. I've had lots of people deliver cars to us where they say "I've done all this" then I go and get a sander and remove all their hard work. ANOTHER USEFUL NOTE: Do not use silicon based products where you are undertaking bodywork. I twill blemish the paintwork and its a fucker to remove once you got it. No matter how much you clean a panel with panel wipe, you won't see it until its painted. Where it'll appear a a white or colourless little speck. You might think its just abit of shit in the paint at first and try to buff it out, but its actually an area of no colour Also if you do use primer, try and keep the storage area free of moisture and definately don't allow the car to come into contact with water or rain. Primer is pourous and will absorb the water, then leak when the car is baked in the oven.

NOTE If your priming or painting wear an air fed mask, latex gloves, a suit and don't leave any skin exposed. Although your not exposed to it all day as your profession the chemicals in paint are poisonous and contain a type of Cyanide. It will pass through skin, not just through inhalation NOTE 2 Wear a mask and use extration when rubbing filler or old paintwork ESPECIALLY IF HAS LEAD FILLER. Not only will it be more pleasant and less messy but the dust cannot be fully broken down by your body if inhaled so will remain in your lungs

I don't have any martial arts or fighting background but I am trained in self defence and restraint techniques so I'm of the same opinion, get them down or away from you long enough for you to leave. Although its probably not as satsifying as kicking ass neanderthal (SP?) style

Hi, I'm a qualified panel beater although I've now left the profession. Genuine (not pattern) replacement panels normally work out cheaper in the long run as there is less labour involved. Also you may find that if you keep the original panels you wont be offered any warranty. If you leave rust on a panel it can be treated with a rust inhibitor but to be honest you'll never get rid of it fully (unless its just surface and your prepared to grind and sand it away. I would expect it to reappear in a few years. Out of interest whats the need for the bare metal job? If you do that you really need to have the car finished and ready for primer in rapid time, matte rof days, else even the moisture in the atmosphere or from your skin will cause it to rust. If your happy there is no filler (use good old magnet) a well prepared paint surface isn't a problem. If you still want to do it how will you go about it? Paint stripper is a pain in the arse and I don't recommend it, sandblasting is good but can distort panels and is very damaging around rust areas. As for the panels, you can weld them on yourself if you know what your doing. Everything has to be immaculate (bare metal would be ideal for this) but ensure you use a weld through primer between any layers where the skins overlap. Panel alignment is crucial, especially if welding on a front panel. A technique we used was a million pairs of mole grips and small self drilling/self tapping screws to hold the panels in place, then replace the headlights/radiator, bonnet, wings & doors etc. If it all fits nice, nice door gaps, nice wing to bonnet gaps, bonnet catch locks correctly then weld it. The correct way (as approved by insurance companies and manufacturers) is with a number of spot welds and minimal mig welding. In a professional bodyshop, too many mig welds on a panel, or too many welds close together means removing the panel and fitting new one again. If you need welding done to the roof or replacing a roofskin definately get a professional bodyshop to do it. Youll need to put the car on a jig to keep it stressed correctly as when you take the roof off it will want to fold up. I'd recommend the same if you are talking about replacing a pillar. The jigs used will hold the car in position and most have an integrated measuring sytem. Also the heat from welding will distort the panel. Even heavy sanding or prolonged use of an random orbital (DA type) sander will cause distortion through that minimal heat as will the heat from the chemical reaction when filler is 'going off' If you can get hold of a Thatcham vehicle panel guide that is invaluable although they are for trade only and you may have difficulty getting your hands on one. Hope that helps, anymore questions, just ask. Ill try to help EDIT TO ADD: If your welding is only to the standard where you can 'get by' I'd probably recommend not doing the frontpanel, pillar or roof yourself. Altogether, in the event of an accident, they are put under enormous stress and should work together to dissipate the energy of an impact. ie not snap or be rock solid because you've seam welded everything

Cool, was it videoed? Cos you know, if it wasn't on video.... it didn't happen seriously

Who says they are civilians or unarmed? If you can't clearly see then I guess you can't make that assumption either.

So he was eyeing up my bird was he!? You got some explaining to do

Don't try and macho it up. You rode a self propelled vehicle into a fixed object. It wasn't roaming maliciously around the street trying to strike some innocent cyclist. You rode into it

So is that 2 or 3 ive added now?

Damn, would you believe it, someone did catch it! Of all the luck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rthd-njV7YM

You know I'm searchin YouTube right now don't you. That would make my day, nay, year! You plum

Damn thats hot

Your fault wanker, Can we throw the worlds supply of lamposts and bicycles for Andy to ride into. And a webcam so we could watch, much to our amusement

Ello' gorgeous, where you been all my life?

Harsh, have a heart luv. Listen to the common man.

At this rate I might be diving in there myself to satisfy my needs (not the women with willys by the way) so I'll hold the hand grenade idea

Damn you woman, you really have no idea! Can we repeal this section please And as an addition to Big Brother can we please include any progrram ever made with the word 'celebrity' in the title.

Its getting too strange in there. Can I throw in a hand grenade for good measure please