Nataly

Am I correct in assuming that the consensus is that while more opportunities does not mean more Mr. Rights there is a positive correlation between number or opportunities and number of Mr. Rights? Kind of like saying, while having money cannot buy happiness it can present more opportunities to pursue activities (formula 1 car racing, world travel at 5 star resorts, etc., etc.) that could lead to ones happiness. Well, I have to (grudgingly) accept that this seems to be the case!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

That's my original premise as well, except that I'm going one further and stating that more opportunities doesn't mean more Mr. Rights. Although there have been lots of good points against my theory (and lots in favour and lots of good side arguments as well). "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

I found a speech she gave here http://video.dld-conference.com/watch/ncd0XHX That makes me want to see 20 seconds of Joy even more. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

This post is the one that most made me question my assumptions, and it's because you reversed the argument for me! Nice one Although I *do* still think that finding a compatible mate can be hard for everyone. And I think it's harder if you're socially inept than if you're "ugly". Although this would be difficult to prove or analyse fairly/accurately. But just as a case in point: lots of "ugly" people do find great partners and lots of "attractive" people don't. Although I'm not sure whether attractive people on average fair better at finding "true love".. I'm not even sure how you would measure "true love"!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Ok, but the shot she is missing out on is shallow, so is she really missing out??! And besides.. What's to say that either girl is compatible with either boy and vice-versa?? "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Probably because I'm in the UK... "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

sigh...must be nice! My father was a trust fund baby....shame that the trust fund was linked to Iran and the Shah. So as the Shah went so did his trust fund. Amazing video. Her injury....wow! Simpy wow and OUCH! The link (and many others I found) don't seem to work for me I can see trailers, though, and it looks like an interesting story. I'm going to keep looking for it.

Nope. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

I'm sorry but I'm going to pick on you for a second. But I get this often from the old ladies at my Yoga class. OK, what do you think that Mr. Right is going to fall from the sky and music will start playing? This is life not some sort of Bollywood movie. As my grandmother use to say "Fish don't just jump into your boat." I think TriGirl probably just used the wrong choice of words... She somehow doesn't strike me as the kind of gal who literally sit back whilst men are presented to her! ETA - I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your idea that the "normal" woman is fat, uneducated and hysterical. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Baaaa haa haa ha ha.... Ok. Dude, that avatar is the *best* picture I have of me. I assure you I'm ordinary (although I will admit to having great abs, but that it just one feature and not the whole picture)!! To me beautiful is the exception (and so it ugly). And I just don't fit into either category. I think the average woman is pretty, but not beautiful. And although it's hard to tell from just your little picture, I don't think you look like a very good definition of "ugly"! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

I like the one you posted better than the one you didn't select because it's unusual (for a whuffo) to see the moment before the jump and that somehow makes it more exciting/dynamic. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

On behalf of all the "uglies" I'm going to have to say that this is the exact kind of theory that one would expect from a "pretty". ...Shah (I'm a little suprised) has been spot on several times in this post. I agree - I've been surprised by many of Shah's comments in this thread! But I don't think I fall in the "beautiful" category. Nor would I describe myself as an "ugly".. Those two are extremes for the sake of argument, and I am very much in the "average". "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

[cabinet has been debating putting water on the plants instead of Brawndo] Pvt. Joe Bowers: What *are* these electrolytes? Do you even know? Secretary of State: They're... what they use to make Brawndo! Pvt. Joe Bowers: But *why* do they use them to make Brawndo? Secretary of Defense: [raises hand after a pause] Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. "Electrolytes...it's what plants crave." DAMN those people were stoopid!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Hey now, don't go spreading rumours... We'll hafta make it true. You want to make me cry?? Seriously, though, I don't think I could handle you Bolas - you have a reputation for being a real deviant! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Yep! I probably shouldn't have used lattes, which is no doubt the reason behind the mildew... But now I've started I feel I should be consistent with my experiment... I hear tea leaves are quite good to help plants grow... "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Whew, is it hot in here or is it just me? Hey, I just tried to vote again, but it shows I did already from yesterday. I even cleared my history to no avail. I guess I'll try this afternoon again. Glad to see you're in the lead. With a smile like that, you've got to win. Must be a time-zone or 24 hour delay thing... I tried to re-vote (for the first time today) this morning and it wouldn't let me... I went again this afternoon and it was fine

Oh - an update... My plant is growing after all - even despite the mildew!! WOO HOO!!

Well, that's probably kind of fair..! I'm single and I spend all my time at work or in my flat, so yeah.. Those topics are going to be prevalent in my mind!! Although in fairness the roommate / landlord theme isn't recurring - it just seems to have stuck in people's minds!! And I don't think I complain about work (although I have complained about exams!).. I believe the last topic that was work-related was either how I've had some really great colleagues, or how someone asked me on a coffee-date!! (WHOA - mixing *both* topics - how sad!!) As for relationships.. Well, I'm interested in finding out what makes them work (or not), since I haven't figured it out myself yet!! He he.. Guess the "predictability" of my lame posts supports my theory that I need to change what I'm doing with my life!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

My uncle used to say that women marry a man and expect him to change - they're disappointed when he doesn't... Men marry a woman and hope she never changes - they're disappointed when she turns out to be completely different!! I guess lucky women find a man willing to be "fixed" and lucky men find a gal who stays exactly the same! I like to think that one day I'll be in a loving relationship where we encourage/enable each-other to grow - to me, that's the ideal. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

So how do divorce rates link in with the topic of this post??? "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Fucking hell... You can be a real asshat sometimes, Squeak. I see your point now - and you have a good one - but you don't have to insult me to say it. Why don't you just say something without putting me down in the process?? It's simply something I hadn't thought about. Isn't that the point of a discussion? To broaden your ideas about something by listening to different points of view/arguments? Hey I was being NICE.. I was going to say... I can see why you keep failing you Accountancy exams... But I didn't Yeah, well I've never been very good with numbers, that's true. And I'll admit that. And if you were honest you'd admit that you were NOT being nice. But even what you're saying about meeting more people.. It's not necessarily the case.. Guys often say they feel too intimidated to talk to beautiful girls, so just because more people are attracted to beautiful girls doesn't mean they meet or talk to more people. In fact the opposite might be true... Ugly women may meet more men because men are not afraid to talk to them. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Fucking hell... You can be a real asshat sometimes, Squeak. I see your point now - and you have a good one - but you don't have to insult me to say it. Why don't you just say something without putting me down in the process?? It's simply something I hadn't thought about. Isn't that the point of a discussion? To broaden your ideas about something by listening to different points of view/arguments? "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Not sure where you're going with this??! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

EXACTLY. And finding a compatible mate, I'm arguing, is not more statistically probable for attractive women, because the percentage of compatible mates for them should be the same as for non-attractive women (in theory). for an accountant you don't think to hard about the numbers do you? the probability is not statistically the same for FINDING a life mate. It may well be that there is a similar probability that there is a compatible mate OUT THERE, but that is NOT the same as the probability of finding said mate. That statistic goes UP with the more contact opportunities So attractive people with good personal skills will have a much higher probability than an Ughlee or a Pretty but Socially fucked up person will. If the theory is correct (that there are the same % of suitable mates for attractive compared to unattractive women), then *finding* the right one is not easier for an attractive woman than an unattractive woman. So by adding another variable (social skills), you are changing the equation, and therefore not looking at the same problem. In a way, it reinforces my theory... That attractiveness is not the determining factor to "finding the right guy". "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

You naughty girl!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss