
jakee
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Everything posted by jakee
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So your position is that you can’t believe what he says, and he was doing the exact opposite of telling it like it is when he said that? Interesting.
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Oh sure. If you ignore all the things he constantly says that he doesn’t believe in then yeah, never ever ever! Yep, he’s running it exactly like his one of his corporations. Extracting as much personal profit as possible before bankrupting it and taking no responsibility for the debt.
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Then how do you mean they’ll ‘defer to the states’? Think it through...
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Are you that naive? Is your memory that short? Trump literally stood up on stage, on TV, and admitted that he said things during the campaign which he didn’t believe, that his handlers told him to say, and that he kept saying them purely because they played well with the audience.
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What do you mean, he still thinks there’s a difference? When you say ‘as opposed to’ that means YOU think there’s a difference.
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True, but polling companies need to sell their product in a competitive environment. They've had 3.5 years to try to figure out why their last product was faulty, and fix those faults as best they can. They're still not going to be perfect but it's likely that they're better this time around.
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After all their anti-academia rhetoric since forever I find it surprising the Republicans would nominate someone with practically no ‘real world’ experience who has been firmly ensconced in the much maligned ivory tower for almost her entire working life. Ah wait, no. No I’m not surprised at all that they’re as hypocritical about this as they are everything else.
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What does any of that have to do with you wrongly accusing me of using a strawman argument? I guess you are one of the people who can't admit to making a mistake. That's disappointing.
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Challenge of the day: Address contents only, not people
jakee replied to wmw999's topic in Speakers Corner
Haha that last panel -
First, context. Most Primary voters wanted Hillary to be president. Second, relevance. What does that have to do with you wrongly accusing me of a strawman argument? Am I wrong? Are you one of the guys who can't admit to a mistake?
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You said 'result - he lost'. But it turns out you believe othewise.
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Read the fucking thread. At least I know that you're one of the guys who won't have a problem admitting you made a mistake.
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Sure but, let's be honest, claiming it was because he pushed back against a racist conspiracy theory isn't one of them.
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Not sure that's true, but at least you're conceding that your 'result - he lost' comment was wrong.
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Trump's taxes show chronic losses and years of tax avoidance
jakee replied to Phil1111's topic in Speakers Corner
Sure. Every other Presidential candidate in nearly 50 years has releaed their tax returns before the election, this drags him kicking and screaming into line. You're blaming Harry Reid for Trump's tax returns being dodgy as hell? Yep, there's that balanced centreism we've all come to know and love from you. -
Exactly, that was his fuckup. He wasn't a fringe right populist but during his campaign he inexplicably succumbed to the advice that he should be. Just because Trump won by being Trump doesn't mean that's the only way. McCain could have won by being McCain.
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Bullshit. He lost because during the campaign he abandoned many of his principles, chose a nutcase for running mate and tried to chase 'the base' instead of the centre that he normally resonated so well with. Except that when you try and find examples of Reid doing the things McConnell has done... not so much. I don;t think anyone has done as much as McConnell to ensure that the various branches of American government do not represent the American people.
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That's the part of this that you think is a strawman?
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You think the timeline is the same?
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Irony!
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It's the exact statement that I was initially responding to. That's the opposite of a strawman.
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That’s just another way of saying she ran a better campaign than anyone else. Regardless, it doesn’t mean or even suggest that she was nominated because the Dems were desperate in some vague unspecified way as a result of the Obama administration.
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??? That’s revisionist history. The left weren’t desperate in 2016. Obama had decent approval ratings and once it became clear that Trump was running away with the R nomination the general consensus was that any warm body with a blue rosette would be able to trounce him in November. Hillary was nominated because most voters wanted Hillary to be president.
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Just keep in mind that It is demonstrated time and again that when there are grey areas available in charging and sentencing then black or white has a lot to do with it.
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Strange, after decades of heavy handed, zero tolerance policing, decades of shoot first ask questions later law enforcement and decades of incarcerating citizens at an astronomical rate the result is that Americans are the worst criminals in the western world? Almost sounds like it's worth trying something different.