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Have you been on drudge report, then? A picture of the pres wearing a cowboy hat and something about him calling himself "the Gipper." I do have to admit, whoever dressed him that day did choose a flattering at. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I could step up and tell you that Americans kept English as it was and British developed BBC English in the late 1700s and early 1800s, but then Brits would really get cross with the colonial cousins. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Bah! Piss on apologizing to the Repost Nazis. (i was trying to convey my opinion of them with the Pollack comment. It's funny shit regardless. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

The repost police have issued an all points bulletin for a Dutch or Belgian guy who likes big horses or pints of beer. . They're a bit confused. Does that mean the repost police are Polish? Funny stuff! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

No, I've just bothered to educated myself on how the criminal justice system works, how states have structured their sentencing guidelines, and other things that affect the final number. You on the other hand seem to see the number, form an emotional response, and stop there. If you're comfortable with ignorance and emotional responses, have fun and good luck. I prefer a significantly higher standard. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I used as much persuasion, evidence, and logic as you did. I you don't like my argument, then by extension you don't like your own. Feel free to improve your argument if you can. Meanwhile, I have a pretty solid analogy for you: we'll trade un for od. -Pro god folks want everyone to be free to go to their place of worship and practice any religion they want, or none at all, as long as they don't violate anyone else's rights. -Anti god folks want to limit who is allowed to go to places of worship, who is allowed to preach, to register and regulate what religions are allowed, and what religious things you're allowed to say and do and carry in public, without due process or recourse to the courts. Now really agnostics and atheists don't buy into religion, an some try to convince believers to give it up, but I don't know any who are trying to close all places of worship or ban people from attending their chosen service. You'd call that pretty extreme and unreasonable, wouldn't you? You might even say that was infringing on someone else's freedom, right? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Several pro-gun rights people here have admitted they have no problem seizing guns from people convicted of felonies or people who have been adjudicated to be insane. So your caveat doesn't work either; pro-gun people often DO want control over another person's legal ability to purchase and possess firearms. I was referring to a person whose rights have not been limited or removed by due process related to felonies, mental illness, etc. Gun control, by it's very nature, is about prior restraint, rather than due process in response to an actual event. Anti-gun rights people want fewer people, if any, to be allowed to buy/own/carry guns, and they want fewer types of guns, if any, to be approved for ownership. "Mr and Mrs America, turn them all in." They want to ban or further restrict the rights and choices of free people without and evidence that doing so prevents or reduces crime, without logic as to how it would, and without explaining how the constitution would allow such things to exist. Folks that respect gun rights and free choice oftheir fellow citizen want as fee restrictions as possible. Think about free speech, or voting rights, or any other right. Would you stand for anyone suggesting that they need massive further restriction? Or accept the idea that you can just read it out of existence with reinterpretation (that collectivist "the people means states in this one but people in the others" nonsense). It's about a simple question: do you think the rights of free citizens should be as limited as possible because of what they might do, or should the rights of citizens be protected and broad as possible ao long as they don't infringe on the rights of others? Someone once said there are no freedoms, there is freedom. It is singular and not divisible. To diminish any freedom is to diminish all freedom. To diminish freedom for one is to diminish freedom for all. I agree. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

If you can't see the parallels between anti-gun and religion, I can't help you. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

So, what laws apply to the people that don't apply to congress, or vice-versa? Or is this a more general rant against corruption and the fact that lawmakers are generally "rich and powerful" and so take care of same? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

How much value do you put on lifetime free protection from one of the best bodyguard services in the world, for the prinicpal and his family? I didn't get into the meat of the paper, but it seemed like stating the obvious. As long as the military is excluded due to no private counterpart, I can't think of anion where government jobs pay more than private ones, all else being equal. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Ok, I must've missed it somewhere. What the he'll is ods? I know it mist be Obama something or other, because I saw bds in a Bush thread. Knowing that I'm guessing I will figure out the "c" in your turtle insult. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

What's all the hubbub, bub? I was going to make a snappy comment about feeling like king of the world, but right now I'm just curious. Whatchu talkin bout, turtle? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

The tea party (as if it were actually a single coherent group) is stagin sit-ins? I missed that one in the news. Were they trying to shut down a business that committed nonprime because they want more of the business' money for themselves, too? Or does your snappy little one-liner fall apart at the slightest scrutiny? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OK, this has been fun, I'm calling it a night. Dum dum rounds are so named in (dubious) honor of a town by that name near Calcutta, India. That name refers to soft nosed bullets, or bullets without a complete jacket, or jacketed bullets with the frontal jacket cut to facilitate flattening. The idea was that creating a bigger hole would be more effective. Hollow points and expanding bullets are a different category that came later and made the argument irrelevant. Deployment of dum dums under the "Laws of War" is proscribed by a "Declaration on the Use of Bullets Which Expand or Flatten Easily in the Human Body" adopted at the First Hague Peace Conference of (29 July) 1899 which states: That's my trivial pursuit contribution for the day. As for your shotgun slugs, there's no point in scratching the front because the slug is all one metal, and it will not flatten or expand in any appreciable way inside the human body. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

-dreamdancer By the way, your "source" is a couple of disaffected whiners who like to stage sit-ins and chant slogans every bit as idiotic as the government slogans they hate. So here's a question for you: other than complaining and demanding more free stuff, what do you actually want the government to change? Should they pass a certain law? Ban anyone with more assets than you from sitting parliament? What do you want, other than "more" from anyone that's not you, and "more" for anyone that is you. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

The point of a crossbow is to use reusable rounds that still work past arm's length. Once you run out of ammo, unless you've stockpiled a factory's worth of ammo, you're going to need something else. I don't know I'd you realize it, but a crossbow bolt will go through every part of the human body except maybe the spine and femur. It's also good for bringing down game animals. When you run out of bullets and friends, there'll likely be edible critters running around that you can't catch by hand. Better that a crossbow is the knowledge and ability to build your own primitive bow. When all our modern stuff breaks rots or seizes up, there will still be means to build a bow. Also, if you're strong enough to use it and fit enough to carry it and use it more than once, a good mace, flail, or morning star isn't a bad idea. They'll crush about any skull and snap any spine. The big drawback is weight and lack of utility as anything other than a weapon. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

If I understand what he meant, then it was poorly stated but contained a valid point. I think his point was that a pro gun control person wants control over another person's the legal ability to purchase and possess firearms. A pro gun rights person desires no such control. Remwa's simplified example failed only in that guy C didn't fit any of the demonized categories of citizen and the gun wasn't described as one of the demonized types of firearm. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

One the serious side, you either misunderstand the .454, or vastly over estimate it. The entrance is still only a hole slightly less than one half inch (unless it's a contact shot, where blowback makes it very messy) and the exit wound is still only a baseball sized hole at best. The .454 is best for very tough targets; think natural armor like thick bear hide big bear muscles and strong bear bones. The .454 is for penetration of a harder than human target. On the zombpocalypse side, as zombies are only as solidly built as humans, and maybe slightly less so since they are rotting, you are wasting power on penetration. Make that over-penetration. With that patently ridiculous recoil, you also have slow follow up shots. As for the gunslingers creed you follow, it's just not realistic. Even the best in the world miss their targets. Smooth follow through, fast target acquisition, and removable magazines are much more important. If you insist on shotguns (I don't suggest it) then your best ammo is PolyShok. It's main advantage is that nearly all its energy is expended on target. Slugs on human-like targets will over penetrate and thereby waste energy. The tac team in resident evil (and better illustrated at the start of RE 2) they waste their ammo because they use full auto and they're not taking head shots. Once we have light sabres the problem will be moot. Until then, the best human applicable arms are the right choice. Rifle, pistols, sword, dagger. I prefer swords and slicing impliments to hacking and chopping ones simply for the likelihood of getting stuck. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate a good scalper though. Really though, the big issues will be, as always, food water and shelter. Lack any one of those three and weapons are moot. Transportation and weapons are a tie for fourth. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

One doesn't have to advocate a 100% ban on all private ownership of firearms to be an anti-gun activist. Maybe he only wants to ban hand guns. That would be an anti-gun position, no? Or one could propose any person who has been arrested not be allowed to own guns. Perhaps one might believe all gun purchases should require a $300 tax. All of those are anti gun positions, right? Most proposals limiting freedom are incremental. Others are not overtly antagonistic towards liberty, but they may be used for those ends. See the history of gun registration. Many of the professor's positions on gun rights versus gun control, when he will actually state them clearly (a rarity), are on the side of limiting guns rights. He also uses a lot of very loose terms than gun banners like to make his points. See "loony." without a definition, it could be stretched to include anyone if the person doing the defining so wishes. And while he is very careful not to clearly state any ideas that limit gun rights, he just about never speaks up for more gun right or less gun control. Is he the most rabid gun controller out there, or even here on dz.com? No, not by a long shot. But that doesn't mean he isn't on that side of the argument. And I prefer hoplophobe over silly things like gun-o-phobe. It comes from the Greek hoplon, meaning armor or weapon, as in hoplite. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/PracticeQuiz/displayQuestions.cfm?cpe=RS That link is the traffic sign section of NY practice test. It's notthe best, but it's a good example of some standard signs. Better tests remove all letters and expect license applicants to get 100%. Is there anyone here who can't pass that? Funny thing is you could probably drive in most of Europe and the middle east without having trouble with signs there, either. There is an international standard for traffic signs. It's the Vienna Convention. For the two countries that follow it least, just look at the far east and the far west: Japan and the USA. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Neither side can "prove" their chosen belief. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Bah, piss on PDWs. Smaller rounds in medium sized rifle deserve more respect. They get a bad rap rap because they are mostly used by militaries, and militaries use ball ammo (for the uninitiated, that's a lead center with a copper jacket, and it doesn't expand). Run quality ammo with the proper bullets through them and you get very different results. And with AR type platforms, you can have an 18" or longer barrel/upper matched with a 10-12" upper (provided you have an NFA stamp or it's the zombppcalypse and no one cares) for dedicated short range work. I do suggest a quality pistol in fighting caliber as well. That does not mean the biggest baddest most ridiculous Dino-killing hand cannon. That means something 9mm to .45 cal or .38 to .45cal. The size of the hole doesn't matter if you can't put the hole where you want it. disclaimer: PDWs have their place, but I prefer two good pistols, or a good rifle backed up by a good pistol, depending on circumstances. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

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Sweet humanity, think of all the areas government hasn't controlled yet. Look at all the loopholes! -no background checks on private sales of fire stuff -cheap and dangerous saturday night special matches -easily concealable lighters -deadly assault lighters -over sized grills and firepits (who needs that much fire?!?) -sick nut jobs collecting arsenals of the dreaded zippo brand, claiming it is a "collection" Clearly the Brady Campaign to Prevent Fire Violence should give this country an "F" rating. And the Coalition to Stop Fire Violence should be picketing at statehouses daily. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

What were their respective criminal histories? Many states take prior convictions into account for sentencing. Also, it's tough to compare laws and punishments across state lines, especially when the states are west coast California and southeast bible belt Georgia. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*