FunnyStuff

You're most likely correct that the existence of near $6,000 at TB is the only reason we even ever started to believe that they were bundled in $6,000 increments. If they were actually bundled in $10,000 increments, I suppose it gives way to a higher probability that either: #1 was there longer than we originally thought and had to degrade more or #2 it had been altered before it got there.

It seems that everyone states with near certainty that the bundles were 3 $2,000 packets rubberbanded together but as far as I know no document tells us that's a certainty. It doesn't make sense to me that the bank would group $200,000(or $250,000) for that matter in increments of $6,000. Seems more probable to be either 4 or 5 $2,000 packets per rubberbanded grouping.

I've always thought the "in shoes" consideration is a little silly anyway. I feel that people mostly quote height as "without shoes" anyway. In other words when some says "i'm 5'10"" they were measured without shoes so Tina/Flo/everyone's internal understanding of "that guy is 6ft" is based on an no shoes measurement. Furthermore, if you see the full body photos of Ted he looks extremely tiny in all proportions like his arms and shoulder width. He's so petite I can't imagine the witnesses not calling it out.

I think there's conflicting reports because there's contension on accuracy of some military record which I think pegs him at 5'6". If memory serves everyone pegs him at 5'8" which I think came from some's personal experience with him and an eyeballing estimate so probably quoted "with shoes"

Interesting stuff here but I'm curious if the 10,000 ft height requirement would have changed these. Quick and dirty research suggests you could probably make it without going straight to the coast but the Klamath mountains would ultimately push you towards the coast line so I think there's a good chance they'd just fly out that way to start.

I can 100% get behind the electronics fit. Lots of large percentage gold + palladium and a decent count of particles containing potential solders. There remains guaranteed alluminum alloy fragments and lots of iron rust and mischmetal as well though. The Ti is the biggest swing I think from the old data. The old stuff had much less oxygen related to the Ti. The new scan has the biggest Ti beak between 20-35% oxygen so it's still less than a perfect match for titanium dioxide. I don't know enough on the scanning process and reliability but if +/-5 to 10% oxygen is considered reasonable then most of the Ti is likely just TiO2 and could be any number of things such as paint pigment. There's also one particle nearly totaly made up of uranium but I'm sure we shouldn't put too much stock into it as it's such a small sample.

I'm still early in looking at the rescan posted by TK which does show alot more oxygen in the Ti particles (could be titanium dioxide which is much more common) than the first scans. If this data set even closely mirrors the first scans then I can't see a reasonable path for FBI storage or handling contaminating it. If there was fingerprinting done on the tie I feel confident it would have been disclosed in the 302s.

There's a major dick measuring contest brewing in the FB group over claims the particulate makeup on the tie is actually finger print powder. Did they fingerprint the tie? It looks like that would probably never happen to a piece of fabric + the 302 on the fingerprinting doesn't mention the tie.

I would say the full transcript that lists the line "cabin rate of climb indicator", the fact frequency was known to be down, the fact that we know a call was made by phone patch, and the fact there's no record currently available to us of the crew directly reporting the pressure bump sensation are all data points "to the contrary". I respect FlyJack's opinion on this since he apparently has other data he says corroborates an 8:11 jump time but I can't say I agree with this stance until Iearn more about that data myself. Unless I learn more details about this I don't think I can get behind a jump at 8:11 based on the facts available to us.

What alternate data did you analyze that corroborated 8:11? I have seen the extended transcript that shows the full line "cabin rate of climb indicator" so I feel confident they said that at 8:11. Are you suggesting this was the only communication of the pilots of the pressure bump sensation?

Yes but this is one of the things the FBI probably got wrong. They were relying on an abbreviated line in the transcripts (which actually refered to the oscilations in the cabin rate of climb indicator) to tether the pressure bump to. The pressure bump most probably came there after but before 8:20 "we called you" line.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Bo6kbE9P4/ Tom Kaye posted the last scan from McCrones here last night to the Facebook group. He said in a separate post that it will not be uploaded to his citizen sleuth website so you need to get it while you can. I've been waiting on this for a while and ready to start looking into it

I'm not intimately familiar with the Martin McNally hijacking so I don't know what speeds he was flying at. That said, he did say after the fact that the stairs were compressed until he put his body weight out on them. Isn't the sled test footage out now? What do the stairs look like there?

He gets the stairs open when the light comes on at 7:40. The 7:42 communication from him about trouble getting the stairs down is most likely him realizing in the pressure from the plane's drag is holding the stairs up until his weight is displaced on them, I can't imagine that took him 33 minutes to figure out. He communicates "everything OK" to the cockpit sometimes before 8:05 so he had the stairs figured out by that point. Also, he doesn't jump at 8:11, that's the pilots communicating that there are oscillations in the cabin rate of climb indicator. Has to have jumped some time after 8:11 and before 8:19 but as far as I know there's no way to know for sure. As I understand it comms were out with 305 during the actually reporting of the physical pressure bump