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They should go ahead and make this a sticky.

Did you screw that girl that was with the band?

The FAA and NTSB reports will probably take 18 to 24 months.It should not be a problem to get hold of.

Next you'll want to pave everything and make it look like every other DZ.

My either. I was supposed to leave headed to The Farm 1 1/2 hrs ago. I am a slack ass.

The only reason it will be gone is all of the fuckers that pour a glass and then throw it away cause they choke on it.

I wonder if this is more crap from China?

I think you just gave a fine indication of why the FAA would be looking into this. I can say that I have seen way more Mickey Mouse systems then I have systems done right. Which is one reason I have done only one high altitude jump. The best ones I have seen are one Fayards Casas but that would be expected as he does military contract work. Of course those are not portable but they also didn't come with the airplane.

At least our profile is filled out.

That would depend on what size the tool is. For some a tube stow may work fine.

Happy Birthday!!!

Hey, a forum that Dave can still post on.

He does have a point here guys.

That's funny

I agree with you about reaching out. I the last two years I lost my father, My grandfather(he past the opening day of Dublin '06) and my two friends at Dublin this year. Not to mention the others that I have known that have been killed this last year or so. The grief and loss have been almost unbearable at times. If any good has come from my experience it is that I have taken a step back and looked at what is really important to me. My wife, my family and my true friends and I have been spending more time working on those relationships. If i had anything to say to the people that are envolved in this tragedy it would be "Don't get caught up in the grief". It is natural to be sad and to mourn but life is too short to let the grief take over. Do what ever you have to do to get past this and get on with your life.

Happy Birthday Man. Are we seeing you at The Farm this weekend?

Thanks Mic.

I hope that is photoshopped. Who would fucking do that to themselves?

If they are scamming and you know it do you think they are going to go out of their way to talk to you?

I think one thing being misunderstood here is that a NOTAM does not keep anyone from using that airspace.

Tom I am glad you started this thread. This has been on my mind all day since the thread in the incidents forum was closed. Let me start by saying that I know nothing about either the pilot or the aircraft involved in the recent accident or anything about the DZ or how the aircraft was operated or maintained. What I am about to say is posted in the most general of terms and is in no way pointed at the people involved in this accident. I was a bit upset that the thread in the incidents forum was locked because althought it was not a skydiving accident, I believe that there is alot to be learned by jumpers from the accident at hand. Some of the things that come to mind are, -Is there a flight plan for the flight I am getting ready to board? An FAA flight plan on file would tell someone where you are leaving from,when you should arrive, your route, how many people on board, fuel on board, and if it were not closed at the end of the flight it assures that someone will be looking for you. -How experienced is the pilot in the inroute enviroment? Although your DZs pilot might be the bomb at putting you on the airport, he might not be as experience at getting you from point A to point B.What rating does he hold? Does he have any experience flying in poor weather? Is the plane certified to fly in poor weather? -How safe is the route? Is it a mountainous area with no place to land or open fields where an emergency landing could be done? -Do I have survival equipment that will sustain me in the event of a crash? Do I have cloths that will keep me warm? Water? Food? -Do I know how to operate any emergency equipment on board? What is an ELT? Where is it? How do I turn it on if it is not on after the crash? -Is anyone expecting us at our arrival point? -How is the weather along our route? Is it storming? Snowing?Ice? Is the piolt hell bent on getting home tonight no matter what? GetHomeItis has gotten more then a few pilots killed. Most of us are use to flying on commercial flights where most of these questions don't need to be asked. Flying on a private plane tends to change alot when it comes to aviation and getting somewhere safely. Before anyone goes off on how I could ask questions like this at a time like this, these questions have been asked a thousand times over, everytime a plane goes down. The FAA has seen it all I would guess and I'm sure the media has also. Again I post this not to bring light to anything involved in this recent accident but to get people to think before they board that next plane. What you learn from this could be the knowledge that saves your life sometime down the road.

And when they get enough business in one area they don't open their own airline and fuck the ones that have been flying their customers.

Take it to the SC.

I guess my next question would be are they sure 10 people rode the plane to the boogie? I hope there has been an accurate accounting of the people on board so they are not searching for people who are not there.