jerry81

Check this recent thread. I'd say it covers your question quite well.

Whoa, I want in on that one as well...2 cameras are always better than one, if nothing else. All we need is a nice, stability-challenged anvil for you to ride. (no offense, Will )

As it was already stated, you'd find a lot of Germans using them and other Europeans as well. I personally haven't heard any bad things about the rig. If you haven't already, you may also like to check out the manufacturer's webpage

Or, if you for some reason don't do that, you can also be more specific here... I know a few people with Next rigs, but you probably wanted to hear more than that, right?

That would be two Antonov-28...

Hmm...anyone know how packers are used/needed there?

Are they seated facing forward? What's the thought process there? Nope, that's the back door. It can be opened almost completely on jump run and can be a bit of a pain if it gets stuck (but I'm sure that only happens in Russia) and you have to use the narrow opening. There's about 2' from this door to the edge of the tailgate. Exiting might take just a little getting used to when you're not doing it alone, as the hole isn't extremely wide and the sides have a small nasty edge (at least on the planes I jumped).

And skin takes some time to heal if you're wearing sandals. Think sandpaper...

I think he's talking about h&p gainers...backflip out of the plane, pull as you're coming around- it's a head low position, but you're belly to the relative wind, so it doesn't matter. Feels good, though, and looks cool as hell.

It's body position. In a 'standard track' you're cupping air with your body and trying to fly flat. Atmonauti is a more head low position with your arms and legs open in a sort of headdown straddle. As far as comparing goes, we were working on 'trackmonauti' (patent pending) formations at the Gran Canaria Boogie with half of the people flying a pretty flat tracking formation and half of them flying atmonauti over the rabbit. That worked ok, but if you wanted to compare a hard survival track (like from a terminal wall) with an atmonauti track, I'd put my money on the former, even if you did get Marco to fly it (but even though he may be a master of the technique, it's Gi who really kicks ass...) And while I have really no idea what effect tracking wear would have on an atmonauti track, I do have a pair of smoking pants that I can try taking out of the plane to see what happens. Btw; the whole atmo-tm-thing has been beaten to death repeatedly in the freefly forum. Call it what you will, I see no reason to bring this into this discussion as well.

Enabling metric units (System->Options 2->Metric Units) also makes the temperature display celsius.

*cough*Bullshit*cough* I think that could only be determined if you set up a good atmonauti flyer (Marco himself would be best, I guess) against a good tracker. The 45° degree angle is just the theory for that sort of flying; in practice, atmonauti formations are, well, a sort of relative work and will move from shallower to steeper angles to accomodate for whatever's going on on the jump. Still, freefall times and vertical speeds tend to be longer/slower than what you'd expect from a position that much different than a track. On the other hand, placing that into a BASE enviroment would definitely require a big enough playfield...and I figure it would be wise to get some healthy distance from the wall before you start experimenting with angle changes.

Well, I know a pro swooper who's relined his Velocity that way, but I can't for the life of me remember if the lines were cascaded or continuous.

Well, at least you had a camera. I got kneed in the balls on a hd exit with practically nothing to show for it...

Really? This one? http://www.parachutes-de-france.com/sources/html/clients/en/produit_t/97.html I've never seen one up close, but that picture looks a lot like the others. _Am That's the new version of the Legend, but I don't think they made any changes to the pin cover flap. There's a thread in Stammtisch with some closeup pictures of a Legend if you're interested.

Unless you have really long arms, I doubt you'd be able to cut just a B line without affecting the A as well...

The link doesn't work, so I'm just guessing...is it 'The fastest motherfucker in the valley', by any chance?

as i said above the video CLEARLY shows him tugging on his 3 ring, pause it and move it frame by frame, its right there. its hard for me to belive he would have his hand through his three ring, for any other reason that he simply mistook it for his reserve ripcord. Just an idea- perhaps he realized the main hadn't left completely and reached for the point where he last saw it attached- i.e. the three ring. Just an idea of course. As Hookitt said, pulling the reserve before impact is what matters when you cut away. BTW- so that's what that flap on Atoms is there for!

My first thought when I saw the ads was that L&B have definitely overdone it- I mean, you have a basic audible, a more advanced audible with canopy alarms, a digital visual that screams at you under canopy and an analog visual that records your jumps. You could fit it all in two instruments, tops. I was certain they overestimated our need for new devices and the ever-present urge to buy cool stuff. Obviously, I was wrong. Also, I can't decide which one I want first...

Hehe, I'm almost certain that's my first flaming on dz.com. As far as altimeters go, I'm sure you know different places have different rules. Good to know about the UK, though. My 300ff jumps were more or less all done with at least one kind of altimeter-notice I did't say that I haven't used one ever since coming off student status. And as for my canopy choice- I know 200 jumps at this wl/planform is hardly enough to do much more than scratch the surface, but I think I'm doing fine so far. And I know that if I was ever in dire need of some good advice, people who know me (hint) would offer it. Cheers.

Me too. Still, there's this...

Yes, no 'primary' altimeter. My eyes, sense of time and audible seem to work well enough for freefall, although I do occasionally wear my Neptune on my hand if I'm doing canopy control jumps.

Damn good question. I guess no one has an answer! Well, my personal answer to that would be "because I've been doing fine without an altimeter for some time now, and I've been thinking about getting a wristwatch, and since I'm a gadget freak and love watches that do other stuff than just show the time, and if I can get one that shows altitude as well and can be used more or less successfully in skydiving-what more could I want?"

On the contrary- attempting that shows the makings of a great marketer, it's only his technique that needs refining until it actually works.

I hope this doesn't come across as complete agreement; The minimum opening altitude BSR; I bet you know people who take it low more often than others, some because they actually enjoy it and some because they don't care. And I'm sure some of them would be opening even lower if it weren't for the rules. They might not question them, but they're not really hot about them either. Similarly, I don't see how wl regulations could ever be made the cool thing to follow for everyone in this sport- I think there are certain personality types among skydivers who just like to push it. These are, btw, those who might not care for the 'extra dose of safety' you mentioned earlier. So if you want wingloading bsr's, the important thing would be to enforce them- PR and making it cool to follow the safe(r) canopy progression comes second. Although it seems to me that what might actually be getting cool already is education- into which, imo, at least as much effort should be put as into regulation. And secondly, regarding arguments on public forums (this is also inded for those who question posts such as the one that started this thread)- sometimes even faulty arguments beget good replies, sometimes informative discussions take place as their result; if this makes a lowtimer approach his new overloaded elliptical with caution and respect, determined to learn all that's possible so that he won't repeat the mistakes of others (like I did), it's good. If it makes someone change their mind and their canopy to something bigger and more appropriate (like I didn't), it's even better. (It may not be as apparent, but I haven't jumped this weekend either.)