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I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either. What is the normal (and flood) speed of the water between the dump and TBAR,,, it is about 6 miles,, estimation,, the Williamette at Portland speed in normal conditions travels at almost 1 ft/second 6 miles is 31860 feet or seconds, that is 528 minutes or 8.8 hours in the water,, check my math.. a flood condition may be quicker. A paper bag would begin to deteriorate after getting wet, but would hold the cash long enough to get it intact on TBAR.. SPECULATION,,, of course .. ASK BLEVINS! HE HAS THE FBI REPORTS! DIRECT FROM THE PALMER FAMILY! Hint: Bradley used 3 ft per second. I assume that is the Columbia,, if accurate then at 2 seconds (average), the Slough may be slightly slower, the cash would be in the water at 2 sec/ft = 4.4 hours at 3 sec/ft = 2.9 hours,, either way it is not long in the water... 3 - 9 hours...
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Very cool FLYJACK! KML files are a great tool. I did a hop and pop jump from 18,000 ft with APRS ham radio telemetry gear that transmitted GPS and physio data. We were able to create a 3D KML file of the jump using the received data. You could see my position, heart rate and blood O2 level at various parts of the jump and also ground speed, altitude and CMG (course made good). Happy Holidays to everyone. 377 Do you have a link for a file or video, can it be viewed,,,??
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I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either. What is the normal (and flood) speed of the water between the dump and TBAR,,, it is about 6 miles,, estimation,, the Williamette at Portland speed in normal conditions travels at almost 1 ft/second 6 miles is 31860 feet or seconds, that is 528 minutes or 8.8 hours in the water,, check my math.. a flood condition may be quicker. A paper bag would begin to deteriorate after getting wet, but would hold the cash long enough to get it intact on TBAR.. SPECULATION,,, of course ..
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There was a flood in dec 1978, the place was a HUGE mess with illegal dumping all around it, the dump was essentially in the Slough, there were also hundreds or maybe a thousand gulls routing through the trash that may have dislodged a brown paper bag.. there are many ways that the cash could have made it into the Slough from the dump, the harder explanation/speculation is the "container" float to TBAR, money intact.. it is extremely unlikely that the cash floated on its own. A paper bag fits... There was a theory that someone had posited earlier in the forum regarding the arrival of the money on Tina/Tena Bar. The tied bank bag washed up on the banks of the river with the raging water of the Spring floods. The bag was partially deteriorating and the money fell out of the partially open bag. When the flood waters raised again the bag was pulled back into the river with the tide and a portion of the money was left on the shoreline. The receding water deposited sand over the money. I do not remember who brought this up, but I thought it sounded like a plausible theory. definitely plausible, I'd love to go to the dump and toss a paper bag of cash and a canvas money bag of cash into the Slough and see what happens. EDIT,, not my cash of course.. someone else's ..
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There was a flood in dec 1978, the place was a HUGE mess with illegal dumping all around it, the dump was essentially in the Slough, there were also hundreds or maybe a thousand gulls routing through the trash that may have dislodged a brown paper bag.. there are many ways that the cash could have made it into the Slough from the dump, the harder explanation/speculation is the "container" float to TBAR, money intact.. it is extremely unlikely that the cash floated on its own. A paper bag fits...
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I agree it would have been easy, but those casino bills would then get passed many times over in circulation, it just isn't the first pass, but the logic here is backasswards.. premise no money was found in circulation.. and it would have been relatively easy for the "hijacker:" to pass the bills after a period of time.. therefore, he spent the cash LOGIC.. premise no money was found in circulation therefore, we don't know if the money was spent So, it really comes down to subjective probability... OPINION If I had to make a call, I'd say the likelihood that money was passed undetected through to destruction is about the same as myself sinking a single basket from half court, however, the likelihood of finding the cash at TBAR would be like myself sinking 50 baskets in a row from half court. ..
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It works. I got a pretty good idea on where you are going with this theory. I'm taking a neutral stand on this one. It's possible the money could have floated into Tina Bar as you say. The two main problems are these: You have Tom Kaye and his team saying they don't believe the found money was ever in the river, or exposed to open water for any real period of time, based on their tests. The second point is the amount of the money discovered, which adds up to more than one bundle of the ransom. In order for your theory to work, this assumes that approximately three bundles of the cash somehow stayed together for a river trip lasting a few miles. I don't have any real conclusion here. In the lack of good theories on the money, yours is as legitimate as any of the others presented. (Possible plant, Cooper crashed nearby, dredging, etc) Yes, the money would have floated in a "container" like a paper bag,, the bag would have deteriorated very quickly. but this theory is very early.. my reading of the dump characteristics in the 70's was that it was a mess with businesses and individuals illegal dumping all around there. If anyone can think of a reasonable theory for cash to end up in the dump in a state that can float intact to TBAR, post up,, (bonus, if it can lead to a suspect) St Johns landfill in 70's..
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ok, not sure if this works, a flying tour of the potential float path from the St Johns dump to TBAR in 2002 (image).. Download file open in GOOGLE EARTH..
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also, it wouldn't just be the hijacker passing the bills, 10,000 bills passed 20 times is 200,000 passes... some of those bills would have been still in circ well into the eighties, but is it possible, sure but less likely.. not much weight to this other than to widen suspects to US and foreign..
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I never meant to establish that the lack of money turning up ONLY leads to a suspect outside the US, (hence my demolished house dump theory) My goal was to come up with NEW theories as my assumption is that the most obvious ones have been explored.. if the nearly 200,000 grand was dispersed into the system, I would expect at least one bill to turn up somewhere, but no bills turning up doesn't exclude the possibility that they all made it to destruction unnoticed. Further, in the context of other information/theories, there has been suggestions that "Cooper" could be a foreigner. The circumstantial details for my "foreign" suspect are mind blowing, but inconclusive.. So, this is logic, the lack of money found in the system (ex TBAR) supports a foreigner in the context of other information. The lack of money does not advance a US citizen whatsoever, it is a dead end logically. Though it is entirely possible the money was spent in the US and never found in the system, that assumption doesn't move the ball anywhere and the ball hasn't moved for a long time. EDIT, Simply, no money turning up = US or foreigner while money turning up = US, so the lack of money is meaningless to advance exclusively a US person as a suspect. BTW, I am not in the US, so perhaps I might bring a different perspective.
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My focus has been to look at new suspects and theories, not to suggest one of the current suspects is not the hijacker but they have been already looked at thoroughly with no resolution and others are researching them. I am trying to come up with "NEW" ideas. The dump theory is pure logic,, create a logic tree starting from the cash at TBAR and follow it. The branches that end can't be followed. However, some branches keep going, follow them as far as possible. For example, if the cash came to TBAR from the dump in a paper bag it could have gotten into the dump many ways, but almost all of them are a dead end in logic and can't be pursued, except the demolished house/death theory. I have have 3 prevailing Macro theories, there may be others, because no money was found other than TBAR and the case hasn't been resolved He died in the jump.. a logical dead end without new evidence He was a foreigner and took the cash outside the US.. matches my "NEW" suspect and I have a name, but is strong circumstantial, the only way to advance exclude/include is obtaining fingerprints and possible DNA and I will get that personal document.. He survived, stashed the cash then lost control/access to the money.. matches the TBAR cash, dump, demolished house after death theory, can be pursued. There may be other potential theories. I did find an old residential property on the Columbia Slough that looks like it had a backyard landslide into the water. I found the address but haven't taken that branch anywhere. Probably nothing, just looked interesting.. http://goo.gl/maps/ZDTt2 http://binged.it/1biq8bs If the cash got into the dump, it is reasonable to assume that it was unintentional. For the demolished house/death theory, look up death records that match the right age range for the suspect in 1971, then use geography, start closest to the dump, find the addresses, compare to property record, example maybe a house was built in 1979 at the address of someone that died in 1978. you might have a new suspect, the logic branch keeps going until you hit a dead end. Is "Coopers" name in this Oregon death list,,, any ring any bells (parse male deaths from 1972-1979) then find addresses and check property data, This is the Oregon side, but can be done for the Washington side. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=ordeath&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_r_db&msbdy=1938&msddy=1975&msddy_x=1&msddm_x=1&msddd_x=1&msdpn__ftp=Portland%2C+Multnomah%2C+Oregon%2C+USA&msdpn=62720&msdpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C1652393%7C0%7C2%7C3248%7C40%7C0%7C2125%7C62720%7C0%7C&uidh=000&msbdd=1&msbdm=1&msbdp=10&msddd=1&msddm=1&msddp=5 AND I AM NOT WRITING A BOOK,, I couldn't write my way out of a wet paper bag full of money. ...
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Like R99, I think your theory involving the dump is completely valid. I think it's a low probability theory but it is a possibility. I don't know any 'markers' in the money that would connect with a dump specifically, or the slough specifically, but this is in the early phase and I rather think people are pondering the issue. As far as this forum is concerned - its the best thing that has come up here in a long time ... and it's REFRESHING to have! Congrats! might have to expand the search area.. "According to Speirs, the entire business woke the rest of Portlanders up to the mess that was happening in St. Johns (he claims that garbage trucks came from as far as Kalama, Washington, to creep into the side-streets like North Taft to illegally dump their loads) and the resulting furor eventually resulted in closing the landfill." The landfill was covered with dredged sand, but in the 70's it was a full open landfill with the Columbia Slough completely surrounding it. map http://binged.it/1cGHSOL ..
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After some thinking on this,,how does this THEORY jive with the evidence.. If Cooper survived, he would have stashed the cash, probably in his residence, hidden in the attic, floor, walls etc. He would have likely stashed it right away in 1971/2 and you would put the cash in a paper bag(s) to protect it and conceal it. Plastic less likely back then. Cooper then loses access to the money, he may have died or gone to prison thinking he can go back for it. Subsequently the residence is demolished later in the 70's and the debris goes to the St John landfill in the middle of the Columbia Slough. A paper bag with cash bundles inside gets into the Columbia Slough, about a (EDIT 6) mile float to TBAR, that paper bag would protect the cash but deteriorate quite quickly and the cash would be deposited intact. COMPARING the addresses of males 35-60 who resided within 25 miles of the dump who either died or went to prison after 1972 WITH addresses of dwellings that were demolished or new builds (replacement) during the mid to late 70's might payoff. Perhaps permit records still exist but all homes have build dates recorded. If you find a match, you might have your guy.. and the rest of the cash is in the Landfill. I ran a search and found about 60 male death records in the age range and time frame. edit, down to about 25 individuals in Multinomah..
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thanks, Ill try that for any links, Yes, the slough would be rich with Diatoms, but I thought the analysis on the money was inconclusive,, some found then not found/detected?? Further the Dump is close to the outlet into the Williamette, what would the water be like in a flood??? The cash may have been "repackaged" when stashed... plastic bag no obvious diatoms were found, according to Kaye. thats all I know. This is from Kaye's website. "The modern bills soaked in the Columbia River were examined using a scanning electron microscope (SEM.) At least three different species of fresh water diatoms were found immediately. Subsequent examination of the Cooper bills found no diatoms. Not seeing any diatoms on the Cooper bills does not guarantee that they are not there, so any final conclusions on this would be speculative."
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Flyjack, The Army Corps of Engineers make daily readings of the Columbia River heights, etc., at a point a few hundred feet east of I5 and just off shore of Vancouver, WA. Information collected at that sensor is available online from November 1, 1974 to the present. The same information for the period of November 24, 1971 (date of the hijacking) to November 1, 1974 was collected but can't be located. This suggests that it is not online. That information is needed to determine what, if anything, the Columbia River level had on moving the money. So if anyone knows where that information is located, please speak up and fast. Robert99 What is the name of that station/location It is listed as "VANW: Columbia River at Vancouver" where VANW is probably the symbol for the gage. Here is a web page that may have linking information to the Vancouver information. http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil 71 is missing only 72+ is there max (24 Hourly) http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/perl/dataquery.pl?k=id:VANW+record://VANW/HG//1DAY/MAX/+psy:+psm:+psd:+pey:+pem:+ped:+pk:id.vanw it is referred to as the old gauge max, mean , min 72+ (24 Hourly) http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/perl/dataquery.pl?k=id:vanw
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a recent news clip about the dump.. http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/St-Johns-landfill-to-become-public-park-213246631.html
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What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Your theory is as good as any other to explain how that money ended up at Tina Bar. There are a couple of things to remember, though. First, the AMOUNT found. Now if you are going to have this money travel for miles, then this makes it tougher to explain how more than one bundle ended up being found in the same exact spot. This almost has to assume the money was in a container, but no container or evidence of a bag was ever found, even after an extensive dig by the FBI and volunteers. Second, there is Tom Kaye and his Citizen Sleuths assessment of the cash. They were allowed to examine the bills. Kaye thinks the bills were not moved by water. He states a few points why HERE. I've suggested that someone here question Kaye more closely and try to pin him down further on the question of the bills being affected by possible travel by water. If one were to stash cash in a house attic, floor or wall or dwelling, it seems reasonable to speculate that it may be in a plastic bag or other material, to keep it clean and dry... I would do that,, though there was no plastic bag found.. it would keep the bills intact during the 3-4 mile float.. That dump had a lot of activity and expansion over the years. The deposit on TBAR would be virtually intact if in a plastic bag.. Then the rest of that money may be in that dump, but nobody would throw it in the dump intentionally.. I wonder if is possible to match addresses of male deaths with house demolitions or new construction dates.
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Flyjack, The Army Corps of Engineers make daily readings of the Columbia River heights, etc., at a point a few hundred feet east of I5 and just off shore of Vancouver, WA. Information collected at that sensor is available online from November 1, 1974 to the present. The same information for the period of November 24, 1971 (date of the hijacking) to November 1, 1974 was collected but can't be located. This suggests that it is not online. That information is needed to determine what, if anything, the Columbia River level had on moving the money. So if anyone knows where that information is located, please speak up and fast. Robert99 What is the name of that station/location
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thanks, Ill try that for any links, Yes, the slough would be rich with Diatoms, but I thought the analysis on the money was inconclusive,, some found then not found/detected?? Further the Dump is close to the outlet into the Williamette, what would the water be like in a flood??? The cash may have been "repackaged" when stashed... plastic bag
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Flyjack, this possible source has not been considered before to the best of my knowledge. I would like to defer further comment on this to a future date. In any event, I'll go where the facts indicate. If you can find a source for the early 1970s Columbia River data, please post or PM immediately. Both Georger and I will probably have trouble keeping our feet on the planet if you find that data. In the meantime, stay tuned and keep the faith. As mentioned earlier, the wheels are moving and time is of the essence. Robert99 what data are you looking for,, Historical Crests for Columbia River at Vancouver (1) 31.00 ft on 06/13/1948 (2) 30.80 ft on 06/01/1948 (3) 27.70 ft on 12/25/1964 (4) 27.60 ft on 06/04/1956 (5) 27.20 ft on 02/09/1996 (6) 26.30 ft on 06/19/1933 (7) 26.20 ft on 05/31/1928 (8) 26.00 ft on 06/12/1921 (9) 25.90 ft on 06/26/1950 (10) 25.60 ft on 06/16/1903 (11) 25.44 ft on 01/19/1965 (12) 25.30 ft on 06/22/1917 (13) 25.30 ft on 06/03/1916 (14) 25.20 ft on 06/13/1913 (15) 22.55 ft on 01/03/1997 (16) 21.50 ft on 06/12/1972 (17) 21.10 ft on 06/22/1974 (18) 19.54 ft on 01/24/1970 (19) 19.03 ft on 06/05/1997 (20) 18.50 ft on 12/01/1995 (21) 17.50 ft on 04/27/1996 (22) 17.43 ft on 06/02/2011 (23) 16.80 ft on 02/02/1997 (24) 15.00 ft on 12/30/1998 (25) 12.32 ft on 11/26/1999
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What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Pay no attention to Jo. She claims to own every idea in the Cooper catalog. Your theory offers a real world idea of how Cooper money could have come to Tina Bar. JT claimed to have released ping-pong balls in the Washougal and they came to rest on Tina Bar ... a claim yet to be documented! A claim like yours was advanced here by Farflung some years back, involving construction on Hayden or Govt Island - I forget which.. You might want to do a search of his post on that. What dates of passage do you have in mind? And, what species of diatoms dominate in the slough you are focusing on! ? ... Flyjack, can you give the precise location of the Columbia Slough that you are talking about? Further, do you know the dates that construction started and finished on the Flushing Channel between the Columbia River and Vancouver Lake? The river entrance is just south (upstream) of Caterpillar Island. And Flyjack, if you are a resident of the Portland/Vancouver area, do you know when the marina was built that is now between Caterpillar Island and the "mainland"? Finally, does anyone know of a source (hopefully with a link that works!) for the Columbia River data at Vancouver for the period from November 24,1971 to December 31, 1972? Things are moving and time is of the essence! Robert99 I am not from the Portland area.. The St. Johns Landfill/dump was operational in the 70's and is at the East end of the Columbia Slough close to the Williamette. maybe a 3-4 mile float to TBar, has this been considered as a possible source of the cash?? If the cash came from the dump, it wouldn't have been thrown out intentionally, perhaps the cash was stashed in a house, maybe the owner had died and the cash was abandoned. The house was demoed and the debris dumped.. So, a dead previous owner matched to a demolished house in 1978-9ish. I found another location in the Slough that looks like a back yard of an old house that had a slide into the Slough, if the cash were buried in the yard, the slide may have put it in the water. Ironically, I found a small culvert that connects to drainage ponds/ditches at the Southern side of the Airport,,, it currently dumps into the Waterway.. So, there are many ways that cash could have made its way into the Columbia Slough, but the dump is interesting as the cash could have been stashed "protected"" in a house or structure (container) for years first.. Since it is unlikely that the cash was out in the elements anywhere for 6-8 years. It seems probable that it was stashed, hidden and dislodged by mechanical means prior to TBar... It was an active landfill through the "Cooper" 1971-1980 timeframe "14 million tons of garbage Located in north Portland near the confluence of the Columbia and Willamette rivers, the 238-acre St. Johns Landfill is situated in Metro’s Smith and Bybee Wetlands Natural Area, the largest protected wetland within an American city. By the early 1960s, the former lakebed was filled with garbage to the edge of its surrounding levee. Although the majority of waste in the landfill is domestic solid waste, industrial waste from a pesticide-manufacturing facility also was disposed in the landfill between 1958 and 1962. Metro estimates that up to 14 million tons of waste were disposed in the landfill site during its years of operation." Dates these dumps were affected by high water 1971-1980 ? Still looking for water levels.. though the activity may have dislodged it. EDIT
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What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Pay no attention to Jo. She claims to own every idea in the Cooper catalog. Your theory offers a real world idea of how Cooper money could have come to Tina Bar. JT claimed to have released ping-pong balls in the Washougal and they came to rest on Tina Bar ... a claim yet to be documented! A claim like yours was advanced here by Farflung some years back, involving construction on Hayden or Govt Island - I forget which.. You might want to do a search of his post on that. What dates of passage do you have in mind? And, what species of diatoms dominate in the slough you are focusing on! ? ... Flyjack, can you give the precise location of the Columbia Slough that you are talking about? Further, do you know the dates that construction started and finished on the Flushing Channel between the Columbia River and Vancouver Lake? The river entrance is just south (upstream) of Caterpillar Island. And Flyjack, if you are a resident of the Portland/Vancouver area, do you know when the marina was built that is now between Caterpillar Island and the "mainland"? Finally, does anyone know of a source (hopefully with a link that works!) for the Columbia River data at Vancouver for the period from November 24,1971 to December 31, 1972? Things are moving and time is of the essence! Robert99 I am not from the Portland area.. The St. Johns Landfill/dump was operational in the 70's and is at the East end of the Columbia Slough close to the Williamette. maybe a 3-4 mile float to TBar, has this been considered as a possible source of the cash?? If the cash came from the dump, it wouldn't have been thrown out intentionally, perhaps the cash was stashed in a house, maybe the owner had died and the cash was abandoned. The house was demoed and the debris dumped.. So, a dead previous owner matched to a demolished house in 1978-9ish. I found another location in the Slough that looks like a back yard of an old house that had a slide into the Slough, if the cash were buried in the yard, the slide may have put it in the water. Ironically, I found a small culvert that connects to drainage ponds/ditches at the Southern side of the Airport,,, it currently dumps into the Waterway.. So, there are many ways that cash could have made its way into the Columbia Slough, but the dump is interesting as the cash could have been stashed "protected"" in a house or structure (container) for years first.. Since it is unlikely that the cash was out in the elements anywhere for 6-8 years. It seems probable that it was stashed, hidden and dislodged by mechanical means prior to TBar... It was an active landfill through the "Cooper" 1971-1980 timeframe "14 million tons of garbage Located in north Portland near the confluence of the Columbia and Willamette rivers, the 238-acre St. Johns Landfill is situated in Metro’s Smith and Bybee Wetlands Natural Area, the largest protected wetland within an American city. By the early 1960s, the former lakebed was filled with garbage to the edge of its surrounding levee. Although the majority of waste in the landfill is domestic solid waste, industrial waste from a pesticide-manufacturing facility also was disposed in the landfill between 1958 and 1962. Metro estimates that up to 14 million tons of waste were disposed in the landfill site during its years of operation."
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What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died...
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There is also a steel truss rail bridge that crosses the Columbia Slough, i searched this forum for info on possible activity in the Slough prior to 1980 that may dislodge the cash,, nothing here,, but I did find an internal proposal with specific options dated 1975 for work in the Slough.. Were any of these carried out,, http://www.ccrh.org/comm/slough/primary/jamiehart.htm "July 25, 1975 From xxxxx xxxx To Commissioner xxxxxx Addressed to Subject Columbia Slough Flood Control Project The study of the Columbia Sough began in 1966 with the DMJM plan for Rivergate and the North Portland Peninsula sponsored by the Port of Portland, the city and the county. From 1968-69, the Corps of Engineers completed recognizance studies of the Rivergate/North Portland Area, but suspended work until a separate study was completed by a special task force made up of members of the North Portland Peninsula Study in December of 1972 and recommended the closure of Columbia Slough for flood control and the development of the banks of the slough and Smith and Bybee Lakes for recreation. The work of the task force was adopted by the Port. The Corps of Engineers then began detailed recreational development which were presented at a public hearing on June 19, 1974. At that hearing, representatives of the city, the Port and the county presented position papers. All three of the agencies gave public support to Plan 1 as proposed by the Corps of Engineers. The Corps of Engineers has completed its report on the project and has selected Plan #1 as the proposed action." Proposed Action For purposes of discussion, the slough has been divided into the lower slough and the upper slough. The lower slough is the western end from Kelly Point Park to the Peninsula Drainage Canal. The upper slough is that area encompassed by the Multnomah County Drainage District. Essentially, the upper features of this proposed action are flood control, recreational development, and cultivation of fish and wildlife. The primary element in the proposed action is the closure of Columbia Slough at its juncture with the Willamette River just south of Kelly Point Park. The closure would necessitate a 170,000 GPM capacity pumping plant which would be provided at the closure site so that interior drainage could be evacuated during high stages in the Willamette River. In addition, the three gaps in the Port of Portland's landfill would be closed by the Bonneville Way Levee, the North Portland Harbor Levee Flood Wall, and a closure embankment in the Columbia Slough. In addition, modifications to existing flood control facilities would be made in three drainage districts. The sewer outfalls and the levee flood wall of the Peninsula Drainage District #1 would be closed off, and part of the levee of the Peninsula Drainage District #2 along Marine Drive would be reinforced. Levees along the Columbia Slough in three drainage districts would not then be reinforced because high flood stages would not occur in the slough.