Rebecca

If you guys would have listened to the French anti terrorism task forces warnings, who knows. You may still have a couple more towers standing in NYC... If we had listened to our OWN warnings... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Bwahahaa!! Girl, you're too funny! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Lookin' good there, my friend!!

Holy crap. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Bob and Jeff? How those guys doin'? No clue, though I'd bet an appallingly low number, let's guess 4,000? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Sigh. Well Chris, then I guess you'd better be really damn clear in the distictions you draw. I didn't put words into your mouth, so stop accusing me. You said Nazis were bad because they were Nationalists, then you called patriots nationalists and ethnocentrists, and you didn't distinguish or clarify beyond that. Regardless of what you meant, that's what you wrote. If you'd like to amend yourself to be clearer, please do. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Ugh! My bf calls them "Doggy Snickers". I had no idea dogs love cat poop before I lived with Daisy and Tyson. Gross. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Careful... greenie gonna spank you... The sentiment is true, however. Here in Houston, you'd find a decent collection of fellow countrymen, no matter where you come from. I meet European ex-pats all the time, and I try really hard to be (for a lack of a better word) ambassadorial - especially when it comes to making them aware that there are Americans who appreciate their respective country's culture, can speak at least a few words (French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch) or fluently (German), and aren't "Ugly" and uneducated like the awful American stereotype. I miss Europe, especially Germany. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

My apologies for not checking his references. I just thought it was an interesting viewpoint to discuss. If he made a statement with any basis in reality concerning the state of affairs here or abroad, chances are, he would be representing a portion of the country's opinions. You can't say anyone represents the opinion of an entire nation, not really. That's why Christel's dismissal of the article as bs and non-German confused me. Is the whole nation really that unified in its viewpoint right now? (I'm asking seriously - last time I was there was '97) This is exactly the sort of response I was looking for - thanks! Do you think security and vigilance has increased across the board since the murders? Do you think that neutrality on the part of non-involved EU countries has made you safer, or more vulnerable (perhaps viewed as weak by extremists?) AGREED! We're all in this together, whether you're involved or not. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

I called patriots ethnocentrists, not Nazis. Please read my posts before you reply to them. Well, Chris, I did. Rather carefully, too. Let's review, shall we? So, drawing on an old logic lesson: Nazis = Nationalists, and Patriots = Nationalists, THEREFORE Patriots = Nazis Did you read your posts? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Well, good morning. Looks like my little thread took off - into a very different direction I had intended it to go. Sigh. I guess that's just what happens. I wish, just once, that people could discuss a viewpoint objectively without getting all pissy and self-righteous. Hell, even I got pissy and self-righteous; nice one, Bec. Does it seem to anyone else, that no matter the original post, the exact same "arguements" (opinions) keep spinning out: The US sucks, Everyone else sucks, Bush sucks, Bush rules, You'd all be speaking German... blah blah. Have fun y'all. One or two more specific replies from me, and I'm out. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Who said anyone was superior? Being proud doesn't mean you have a superiority complex. I don't think I'm better than anyone. I am damn glad to have been born here though, and NOT in Iraq or the Sudan or Afghanistan or Sierra Leone (poorest country in the world). Is that wrong? I'm blessed, and I know it, and I am grateful. I would feel the same if I were German. "Us" is anyone who cherishes freedom and democracy. It's not a perfect system, but it's better than the alternatives. "Them" is anyone who would kill any of "Us" because we cherish those things. Doesn't sound like Nationalism to me. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Comparing America with Hitler's death camps - now that will get you a lot of credibility! Just like calling patriots nazis will. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

I think she meant that we've never been attacked quite like this, provoking us on our soil, though Pearl Harbor comes to mind... hmm. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Ah, gotcha you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

We are the nationalists. Have you not seen the "Proud to be American, "United We Stand," "These colors never run," etc. bumper stickers. Patriotism is Nationalism. Two words, one meaning. Um, I beg to differ. Being proud of your country is a good thing. Killing all those not just like you is a bad thing. I am a patriot, a citizen of these United States of America, and I put my hand over my heart when the National Anthem is sung. And I respect your right to a different opinion. But I take offense to your statement. You can be a patriot and not be a blind follower of the party line at the same time. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Also, schlaf gut! Ach mensch, das meinte ich nicht. I don't think you should be involved. I do know what Germany has been through, and I don't ask any German to keep apologizing. The times were what they were, that is, ripe for the leader who stepped up at that point in time. Times have changed. I love Germany and its people, which perhaps I wasn't so clear about. What I wonder about is the attitude. Not getting involved is Germany's prerogative, but being so opposed to the point of anti-Americanism (not you personally, the over-reaching national sentiment) is something else. If it's true that our current enemy sees all free, democratic Westerners as their foe, well you're on that list too. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Um, yes, yes you are! I've heard of naming cars, dicks, and special equipment, but not ALL your stuff! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Who hates Europe? I love it! Just not all of its policies... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

I did bother to search. Are you referring to Broder or Doepfner? I think you're referring to Broder, who is not the author. That's not the point. The sentiment in the article is the point. Is Europe, including Germany, so hell-bent on non-involvement at all cost, that it really will be at all cost? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Even if it's 'Us against the nationalists'? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

_______________________________________________________ It's Döpfner's comment on Broder's article. And Broder seems not to be a German one. I will check this. No matter if this is a comment on someones article or not: That's not German attiitude. That's BS at it's finest. Yes, I know that it's commentary, but it's in support of Broder's POV. Why do you stereotype your countrymen as having a certain attitude? Does no one there disagree any more? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

Of course there are Americans against the war! Do you live here? And yes, the actions of the leader reflects directly on the people, which is why Americans are often painted with the same brush, regardless of their feelings about the war. The leaders represent their people, for better or worse. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

No problem, but it's not just a comment on what Herr Broder said, that's Herr Döpfner's opinion. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?