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He said he'd talked to PD, but it seemed to me he may have been talking about his own reserve. I would have thought PD would have given him advice on the Sub terminal/terminal deployment, especially if it was one of theirs. Can the OP clarify that?. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I think a hole in a canopy is not always a huge problem. Broken lines are another kettle of fish completely. Once the trim of a canopy is upset, it is not going to fly that well. A hole I'd maybe stick with, broken main lines (more than 1), I'd prolly chop. Surprised to read that incident when a 3rd line broke, after the canopy was open and flying. I find that pretty unusual. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I don't think so. Sounds like something an Aussie would say...... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

NO WAY JOSE!!!!. Bad idea. I doubt you will find any experienced jumper who would agree with that. As Bill points out, there is no point. Apart from the risk of damaging it, or yourself, the value of your reserve should you wish to sell it instantly drops. Having said that, there is no reason why it can't be done without a problem, but if you hve a choice, why would you bother. The factory employs test jumpers to take reserves to terminal. leave it to them. Do a nice easy sub terminal delay, up high, deploy cleanly and stable. Have a good look at it before you release brakes,then have a good play with the canopy...have some specific tasks pre planned, and carry them out, taking note of how the canopy behaves for any given task, including altitude loss. effects of wind on flight path, set up and landing. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

You don't do inference very well, do you?. I'll spell out the missing word.. P. R .O. P. E. R. L. Y. Geddit?. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Nothing wrong with having ambition and/or goals to work toward, and some people are prolly a bit more talented than others. When I was a student my then girlfriend was really good in the air, which I struggled with initially. But then she was a talented springboard diver, and had a good awareness of what her body was doing in the air. I caught up to her, it just took a bit longer for me. Just be aware, all the old farts with tons of experience you see posting on here, will have hit their far share of speedbumps along the way to becoming what they are. You will too. Its how you handle the speedbumps rather than the easy stuff that is the key..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I am not questioning any decision on whether you chop a canopy or not, its up to you and you alone, and you should always be making that decision early, rather than late. Below 500 feet is not the time to get panicky about it. But really, you need to find out a bit more about how a canopy is built, and the strength that is built into it. A line that has survived the opening shock and subsequent ride for however long is not likely to suddently snap below 500 feet. Sure it has blown a hole, or maybe a whole panel, but it isn't made of tissue paper and string. A canopy is built with reinforcing tape and doubled seams, and the lines are strong nylon. Once open, the stress on it is constant, and it is unlikely to just unzip, as I've already stated. If you trust your rigger, talk to him about it over a beer.... Knowing how a canopy is built is something every skydiver should know. What do you do with your downtime at the DZ??. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

There's a Gary Larson cartoon "skydiving nightmares". Its a classic.... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Always some clown comes along, makes noise, and scares all the fish away.... Another washday, all shot to hell...... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Imagine him in a place where there is fillet steak every day, a free bone factory, the cats are toothless and have no claws, there is a fire hydrant/power pole every few feet, ample water to recharge with, all the cars can be caught, and all the other dogs butts smell great. I'm sure there is another pup out there wanting to meet you....... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Empty vessels make the most noise..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Stagger stagger, crawl crawl, roll roll, tumble tumble.... Or is it: Crawl crawl, stagger stagger, tumble tumble, roll roll. Or: ......... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Learn to skydive first..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Not offended by them, but can't really see the point. The "No fear" "F... fear" brigade I find a bit wankerish. Usually seems to be a few insecure people who have a need to be noticed (generally by non skydivers) as a death defying, brave, hard as nails, tough skydiver..... When in reality most of them are pussies...... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

With a hole that small, I doubt if anything serious is going to happen, most of the stress and forces on it would have occurred during the opening shock. There is plenty of strength built into a canopy, so its unlikey to just unzip during the flight phase (although Hollywood would have you believe otherwise.). (I did have it happen once when jumping a brand new canopy, one seam on the top skin let go, from front to back, on opening. it didn't affect the flight at all, and the thought of chopping it never entered my calculations.It seemed the machinist had made a mistake sewing that particular seam.). Another time I jumped a canopy that had been hung up on a power pole, sustaining major damage. I packed it into a cutaway rig, and jumped it into a demo...I wanted to see what further damage would occur on a terminal opening.....Nothing. You'd be better off asking a rigger that question (about the canopy coming apart) rather than an instructor. No two situations though, are likely to be exactly the same. The old adage, "when it doubt, whip it out" still applies though. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Yeah, I saw that. Wasn't sure if Malta would have the numbers to make a tandem operation viable. Especially starting from scratch, as this guy is maybe doing. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Where in the world is this DZ going to be?. Is it already up and running, or is it a new set up?. How long is the season?. Weather condition?. Clientele?. You need to give a bit more information. That may result in some useable advice..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I doubt anyone here claims to be a clairevoyant. Yet there seem to be some pretty accurate predictions made by a few people. Where do you think that comes from Doc?. As for the incident itself, no one seems to know much about it. Perhaps the victim will come on here and tell us when he is in a little less pain. Based on what we already know about him, it is prolly not too difficult to work out most of the story. A number of mistakes were made. a few of them before the last one. Thats the only one we don't really have any information on. The outcome, we know. One thing is for sure. His accident didn't come as a big surprise. In some cases we recognise that disaster is inevitable. At the moment, quite a few who know the signs, think you are on the same track. Try to stay off it. Much less painful. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I'd just pin it in place with my arm rather than hold onto it with my hand during the FF and opening shock. The opening shock could cause you to pull the handle completely. Once under canopy, tuck it back into into the pocket. The reserve pin is under some tension from the closing loop so its unlikely to just fall out. But if you are aware of it, just be a bit more careful with your movements, until you are on the ground. Of course good gear checks, and jumping with people who are not just going to grab your harness any old where will help prevent this in the first place. You can practise your grips and grip changes on the ground. Next time your reserve is due for a repack, put it on, do a pracitce EP and pop the pin. That will give you a better idea of the force required to dislodge it. Floating ripcords were reasonably common back in the days of main ripcord operated systems, inadvertent openings because of them were pretty rare, although many ripcord systems had two, three or even four pins on them. Have you thought of your possible actions though, if you do have a reserve deploy while under canopy?. Several scenarios could come from that, each with different remedial actions. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I got lucky early on. Then I got a boot up the ass about canopy flight before I got too far down the high performance road. Scott Miller helped pull that boot out and then teach me how to fly right. Many others followed after him. I'm not perfect and I have made mistakes, but if you've seen the stuff I said about your "window of opportunity" in regards to your turn and never trying to salvage a swoop, then you'll know that I tried to keep myself out of situations that put me in a hole. Pond water hurts, but it doesn't hurt as bad as making a divot in the grass. The point is that you can make a safer progression. Too far, too small, too soon nearly always ends in tragedy. Literally 99% of the time. That 1% that makes it typically realize the errors of their ways, backs off, gets help and starts making better choices. Well said. Are you listening Docpop?. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

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Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck. So at what number of jumps will I be unlucky to be injured vs. being a dickhead who was going too fast in canopy progression I never broke anything and never had to have any surgeries due to swooping or skydiving in general. Maybe you approached it with a bit more forethought and planning, and didn't overestimate your ability or mad skillz, at the same time underestimating the risk.. Or maybe someone gave you a boot in the arse earlier in your career. Or maybe you just got lucky. But as long as you skydive, it'll still be on the cards. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

You come on here, and call people who sound warnings and give advice to inexperienced jumpers, for their own safety "canopy nazis". After resisting all efforts to educate you on the same issue not long ago, when you were similarly inexperienced. And you are surprised??. Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Still touchy about the canopy advice tendered to you for exactly the same reasons, about a year or so ago huh!!. And still bulletproof. Well done. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

He survived THAT jump... Give him and his mad skills more time grasshopper. My experience is that a femur is usually followed by a permanent introduction to bowling. Not many come back for a second bite at the cherry. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....