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I was so inspired by Trump's win that I'm going to the next local school board meeting and argue that they hire the town drunks to drive the school buses.

No it isn't.

No it doesn't.

Privatizing the US military would be the most efficient thing to do. Break it up into multiple parts, set up various private armies, air forces and navies and let them compete against each other.

I had forgotten that. It’s fascinating how I was brought up that atheists had no moral compass. 40 years later I’m an atheist discussing with a Christian who is defending a person of no moral compass. i can’t even begin to understand Christian morality.

My decision to go along came from my faith in modern medicine and the efficacy of vaccines, number 1. Number 2 was the information that ventilators etc. etc. were in short supply for those in high risk categories and hospital beds were forecast to be in short supply for everyone. Number 3 was just a desire to not be an asshole and get others upset because I was too good to wear a free, thin piece of paper over my mouth when in public. Seemed to work, best I can tell.

From Al Jazeera today "Huckabee is vocal about his evangelical Christian faith, which he ties to his policies towards Israel. For instance, he has cited the Bible on several occasions to argue that the Israeli-occupied West Bank is part of Israeli territory." Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee is trump's appointment as ambassador to Israel. In the past he has stated that Arabs and Palestinians have no rights in the west bank. That any two state solution will never happen. IMO this is all just Allah's just reward for Arab Americans voting for trump. In the mistaken belief that trump will bring peace to Palestinians. Palestinians have a knack for picking losers for leaders.

Hi Mark, Only one tick of the clock. More than enough time to save yourself. If you believe in it. Jerry Baumchen

Let's break it down. Diversity - a group with a wider perspective is better than a group with a narrow perspective. A company made up of all top performing EEs would suck. You need financial types, managerial types, a few mech E's, coders, IT people etc. Equity - you have to do more to support people who need it. Handicapped parking spots, ramps, elevators, bathrooms with larger stalls etc. Inclusion - you have to work to ensure everyone is included. Sometimes that means having career fairs at a place other than the CEO's alma mater, even if he really, really likes them. Which of them puts identity above ability? No, the best alternative is NO racism. And having racism but pretending it doesn't exist is not the same as no racism. Yep. Let's get there. We're not there yet. So you would rip out those handicapped parking spots and ramps, so that everyone gets equal facilities, without special provisions for the disabled? Attitudes like yours are why we have actually have to pass laws to protect the disabled. It should be common sense, but sadly that is quite lacking on the right these days.

Hi Mark, As I once told BillV, I make a pretty good cellmate. Jerry Baumchen

And yet you were fine with your unknown risk caused by switching providers midstream. The risks for the modern COVID vaccination are the same as the risks for any other vaccination. Smaller, actually, since in practice it has been safer than any other vaccine offered over the past 128 years or so. Vaccination also confers immunity to the fetus through acquired immunity, a very well understood phenomenon. And doctors knew this. Did you ask if your wife's polio vaccination would present a risk to the child?

Yes, I was taught to believe in the Constitution. How sad that conservatives have abandoned it for a conman. I may be remembering this incorrectly, but didn't you take an oath to defend it? Is that no longer important?

But that's just science. Evidence, facts, truth, and science no longer matter. We must accelerate the end of human beings on the planet! Apparently it appeases all the gods. The fuck your feelings crowd are now putting their feelings over everything real in the world.

Anti-vaxxers. The last wave of vaccine hesitancy was led by Andrew Wakefield, a UK doctor who held a number of news conferences in 1998 where he stated a potential link between a popular vaccination (MMR) and autism. He followed this up with a "study" to prove it. It turns out he was being paid by lawyers who were suing a vaccine company. He was fired as a doctor, and started a full-on anti-vax campaign as a way to "get back" at the "system." As a result, over 100,000 parents refused to vaccinate their children to "protect" them. Over the next 20 years the UK experienced more than 12,000 cases of measles (up from a dozen a year or so) and hundreds of hospitalizations - and at least three deaths from measles, a disease that had almost been wiped out. It recovered since then. Now with the US right wing anxious to be seen as heroes by "protecting" people from vaccination, and with an anti-vaxxer in charge of HHS, a new anti-vax wave is growing here in the US. Sadly, it's mostly children who will pay the price.

I’ll admit I don’t understand what you mean. I was raised Christian and a few verses spring to mind regarding Trump. 1. By their fruit you will know them… 2. Thou shalt not steal, covert thy neighbours wife, take the lords name in vain 3. Defend the weak and the fatherless 4. Whatever you did for the least of these you did for me… 5. Blessed are the poor/ harder for a rich man to enter heaven I really struggle with the fact that evangelicals support a convicted rapist, conman and generally vulgar person, over a church goer who tends to follow the word of god.

Fuck, I'll flirt with you. How much are you good for?

It’s his chosen cryptocurrency which he clearly has a financial interest in. Make America Grift Again. BTW, can you imagine the outrage that would be forthcoming from the right of Harris allowed a campaign donor to buy so much political influence they were included on her phone calls with worlds leaders?

I am just laughing at the irony of an efficiency department with two leaders. You can't make this shit up. Though Monty Python has gotten close.

We can have our own SS in no time. No people of color, no women, no non-religious/not THE religion of the US people need to apply. I foresee some Muhammad Ali type lawsuits. Or not, people would likely prefer to NOT serve in this type of military. The desire to trash the US Constitution is beyond disgusting.

For the contents of the Incidents and S+T forums. There are a million other political forums you can find so - no. The value in this place is the information in the topical forums, not the nonsense here,

Not sure you understand where VCs and hedge funds get money from, but I'll be bookmarking this to return to in a few years.

'Cuz Trumpty Dumpty's gonna put Elmo in charge. The big difference is that he's likely to do to the US economy what he did to Xitter. And so many who supported Donnie von Schitzenpants complained about how bad the economy was.

Winsor isn't a liberal. So were most of the Republicans. Trump didn't think he was going to win, that's why he was complaining about rampant election fraud on polling day. And again, is there anything more echo chambery than pretending the people who voted against you simpy don't exist? Ludicrous double standard. Again, the only conservatives posting here before November 5th were quite adamant that this was going to be a single issue election, with people voting for the economy and ignoring everything else. Now you're all saying it's a definitive referendum on every aspect of liberal policy. Further, this is the third time in 36 years that the Reps have won the popular vote and does anyone remember seeing a shred of humility or softening of their positions in that time? No, they just got better at lying to the people and abusing the levers of power to get what they want anyway. For instance, you made up something Putin said about Trump, I showed you the text of the speech to prove it wasn't true, you just decided to stand by what you said and ignore reality. If you want the liberals to learn the lessons of this election that's what you should expect to more of - the left just rampantly making shit up about you and your policies, because apparently that's what works.

Generally speaking knocking posters doesn’t add to the conversation. I’m not talking about your specific post. The ones I find most annoying is scrolling down half a page of ‘he’s on my kill list’, he’s blocked so I can’t see what he posts’ etc. Unfortunately for some time now most right wing leaning posters have been trolls out for a reaction. While I strongly disagree with the views of some of the recent posters, they have refreshingly not been trolling.

I don't know where you live, but where I live most people made appointments and lined up en masse to get mNRA vaccines as soon as they could and were very glad of it. You probably look down your nose at most people and call them sheep. Most people are actually a lot smarter than you give them credit for.

Is it a personal attack to say I hate you for making me think about that? [vomit emoji]

I'm not sure why you think an mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine but there is a lot of evidence that it functions as one. I know you will carry your personal anger and resentment over the extreme pressure put on you and others to make the sacrifice of taking it for the common good despite your beliefs to the grave with you. I'm not even going to try to have that argument again. But the fact is that it is an effective measure that attenuated the epidemic and allowed society to get close to normalcy far faster and with far less death than otherwise. Without it we would be in a far worse place right now.

I understand how barcodes work, it was a metaphor. You continue to miss the point. I've said it repeatedly: it's not the issues so much as it's that Trump is an odious scumbag willing to harm anyone for an iota of personal gain. I will make money from his policies but I was happy to leave it on the table in exchange for being represented by an adult not a name calling bully who is both stupid and wide open to manipulation. It is there that we are different.

This coming from the people who think vaccines don't work, that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that windmill cancer is a thing, that women can "shut down" a pregnancy if they are raped, and that Haitian immigrants are eating people's pets in Springfield. I prefer actual reality, even if alternative facts conform more closely to conservative agendas.

In 1939 it was illegal for black men to serve as pilots in the US military. Due to a DEI offensive from the NAACP, labor union leader A. Philip Randolph and Judge William H. Hastie, a war appropriations bill was passed containing funding to train black pilots. This effectively legitimized the use of black pilots by the US military. It was not without friction; a great many opposed it. Major General Frank O'Driscoll Hunter, for example, insisted that "racial friction will occur if colored and white pilots are trained together." But they persevered, and by the end of the war, this DEI squadron (also known as the Tuskeegee Airmen) flew almost 200 bomber protection missions, with a record of protecting bombers almost twice as well as the all-white squadrons flying at that time. Overall the squadron received one silver star, 96 Distinguished Flying Crosses,14 Bronze Stars, 744 Air Medals and at least 60 Purple Hearts. Proof of their unity, excellence and honor by any measure. Martha McSally was one of the first women to fly for the USAF in combat. She was able to do that as the result of a DEI effort to lift the prohibition against women in combat in 1991. She ended up as a decorated squadron leader before retiring and becoming a US representative, where she served for two years in Congress. She was part of several DEI lawsuits, including one against the DoD to end the requirement that women in the US military wear burqas when in public in Arab countries. She was also raped by a superior officer, but managed to overcome that and still become squadron leader during her time in the service. Leigh Ann Hester was a seargeant in the 617th Military Police Company. In 2005 the supply convoy she was guarding came under attack by at least 50 insurgents. She led her team to flank the attackers, and used grenades to end the threat. At the end, there were 27 dead and 6 insurgents, with no losses of the US supply team. She ended up with the Distinguished Service Cross. Again an indication of unity, excellence and honor. So I'd say that DEI has in fact done a lot for combat. It is why black people and women can now serve in the military. It has taken hard work, and overcoming the objections of people like General Hunter above, but we are all better off because of it.

Just a reminder: - 34 Criminal Felony Convictions, still awaiting sentencing - 3 Outstanding Criminal Felony Indictments - $534,000,000 in Civil Fines owed for FRAUD, DEFAMATION, and RAPE - 6 Bankruptcies, including a casino! - 3500+ lawsuits in 30 years of business - 2 Impeachments - 1 Insurrection on Jan 6th resulting in - 5 Dead Americans including Law Enforcement Officers - 1,000,000 Dead Americans to Failed Covid Leadership - $8,000,000,000,000 in new debt (that’s $8 Trillion with a T) in 4 years as President - 66 Lost Court Cases - 34,000 Documented LIES while in Office - 16 Women have accused Trump of Sexual Assault, including a 13 year old procured by Jeffrey Epstein (another woman came forward recently) - 180+ Top Secret documents stolen from the American people and hidden(?) in a Maralago bathroom. - 922 Pages of abhorrent policy guidelines in Project 2025 - $3B in Saudi blood money to Jared and Ivanka - $10 million in shadowy cash from the Egyptian government - 7 'shadow diplomacy' calls to Vladimir Putin and secretly providing him Covid tests early in the pandemic - 300+ prominent Republicans pledging to vote for Kamala Harris. - 700+ military leaders pledging support for Kamala Harris. - Numerous high-level Trump appointees state that Trump is a fascist