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Who? Biden has a LOT going for him. The Ds just need to start shouting it from the rooftops. And equally, start calling out all the Rs who are claiming credit for the projects being financed by the Infrastructure Act... That they voted against.

The 2 current sides are in no way similar IMO. Biden has continually proven he can and IS doing a damn good job at POTUS. Yeah, he's old. He still exercises, runs, is damn sharp mentally, and actually has a soul and shows feelings. Trump is a traitor who wants to end our democracy. Oh, and he's a rapist. And facing HOW MANY FELONY CHARGES???

FINE. I'm not tithing though. Maybe a beer when I see them again. Except Skymama, she prefers wine.

Any pilot worth their salt would know how to operate anything on any aircraft they're rated to fly. The doors would be a given.

At CooperCon, I met a woman there who was working as an like a historic interpreter at the Museum of Flight. She had been a NWA flight attendant for forty years. She worked for NWO specifically during the 60's and 70's. She knew everyone involved and worked a good bit with both Alice and Tina. I asked her some Coopery questions and these were the answers. - How often did you load or unloaded passengers from the rear stairs of a 727? She said even when they came to an airport without a jetway they'd often just use the airstairs on a truck. - Would a pilot have known how to lower the rear stairs? She thought about it for a minute and said something like "well, all they'd need to do is read the panel instructions, but I don't think any of them would have ever done that before. That was something we always did if we ever lowered them at all." - If a passenger ordered a bourbon and a soda, did you mix the drink for them or did you give them a soda and an airplane bottle of bourbon? She said the stews would mix the drinks for the passengers. - At the time of Cooper, a mixed drink was $1 and a soda was .25 on the menu. Was a bourbon and soda $1 or $1.25. She said it was $1. - Did you take any tickets or anything when passengers boarded? She said during boarding they would look at the ticket as each passenger boarded. - If you were working in the rear cabin of a 727, where would you have placed your purse? She said there were these little compartments behind the rear row of seats that they could open up and store some gear in. I asked her this to figure out how where Flo's purse would have been when she retrieved it...just to see how awkward that interaction would have been. and finally the most interesting one to me... - Did you know Kenny Christiansen? She said she knew Kenny very well and everyone enjoyed working with him. She said that immediately after the hijacking they began to joke about Kenny due to the sketch. She said it was a bit of a running joke with NWO cabin and flight crew for a while that he was Cooper and so she was shocked when all the stuff about him first came out in 2008 or whenever it was. Said she was basically thinking: "They cannot be serious. This was just our NWO inside joke!" - I asked her if an employee like Kenny could have hijacked an NWO plane and gone unnoticed. She said it would beggar belief for that to have occurred without the employee being recognized. She said NWO was a small group back then and all the employees knew each other. She felt that at least one of the three stewardesses would have worked with him at some point by Nov 71. My takeaway from the conversation I had with her about Kenny is that I think her comments might explain the existence of that "Coopery photo" of Kenny. I bet it was just a gag photo he took to use for joking around with his friends at the airline.

Trump did everything the GOP thought Obama was going to do to stay in power.

And there is no doubt he will do that. To me the US ballot in 2024 isn't Trump vs Biden but Trump vs Democracy. Unfortunately I am not convinced Democracy will win the election.

It "indicates" people change their "comments" over time when talking to different people in different settings. Exactly what you would expect. Original impressions immediately after an event are usually the best ie most reliable? People alter their stories over time. You always want perfection. That is seldom how people are over time. Likewise, people being interviewed are sometimes lead to stray or change their stories = the power of the interviewer. Like some guy implying he could feel how the money was wrapped by how it it allegedly felt in his groin? That is pure Blevens crap.

and when Tina described Cooper's face for the Bing sketch then later claimed she never saw his face straight on... What does that indicate??

In the future let's hope they cover China.

I just realized something the other day. I don't think we have "Cary" if Farrell hadn't gotten some dates mixed up. In August 72 when they finally got fed up with all of the young suspects coming in due to Bing's youthful appearance, Farrell wanted to have a new color sketch made that reflected the hijacker's age and his skin tone. While in the process of developing this lead, he came across Flo's statement dated Dec 2, 71 where she dismisses the sketch and says KK5-1 closely resembled the hijacker. Due to the date, he assumed that she was talking about one of the Bing sketches (from 11-27 and 11-30). However, that Dec 2nd document is actually referring to her statements she made on 11-25 about the initial sketch. In reality, Flo apparently had no problem with Bing, saying that she "likes the drawing very much." So Farrell, assuming that Flo was talking about hating Bing, seemingly wanted a complete overhaul done using KK5-1 as a foundation. My guess is that had Farrell realized she was talking about the initial sketch, we probably don't have the Cary sketch. I think they'd have just gone the easier route and just put Bing in color and aged him up another 10-15 years from how he originally looked. The sketches are really a fascinating study into witness psychology. Bing and Cary are essentially two different human beings yet all of the witnesses liked both. None of them hated Bing and none of them hated Cary. Interesting.

It is right to give them thanks and praise

Nah I think King's on a time-out, haven't seen him in a minute

Yes, of course. I asked the question just to get some clarity on something strange I'd heard while researching a 727 pilot. I came across someone's previous research where they had talked to two 727 pilots from the era and both said they had never once touched the mechanism for lowering the aft stairs of a 727 and would have had to look at the instructions panel to figure it out. That seemed preposterous to me, so I wanted to ask.

Well, it's been a while... but mentioning pulling off pieces at low altitudes.... Back "in the Day" at Scare-Us-Valley in the early mornings with the cloud ceiling around 3 to 3,5K and no holes.. Bob Webb would get on the Mike and say he'd take a load to the cloud base f anyone wanted... Well "GOOD FUN" we called them TORPEDO RUN'S!!! the Otter throttles Ballz2Dwall and above the DZ we'd Launch.. Donuts, Diamonds, Rounds .. trying to "Frisby launch" the piece!! We'd get a good 10 to 15 seconds and a couple of points!!! Did I say "GOOD FUN!!!" .. The Best of times!!! foto: anybody remember this place?? Note!!: no Rock Crushing plant in the background and YOU may be in the foto .. if yer' old enough!!!! skybill

Agreed. The racist rural conservative small-government gun loving types (i.e. the democrats of the south) were indeed vile. Perhaps today's GOP should stop emulating them.

President Biden's biggest asset is that he surrounds himself with the best advisors. Then he listens to them. Todays GOP surround themselves with political activists whose advice they religiously follow.

Hi Nigel, Think Germany in 1933. Jerry Baumchen The Nazi's first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak for me. Rev. Martin Niemoeller

If Kenny actually wore a trench coat and carried a brief case, then I don't think there's anything about that photo that is "Coopery". Your post ALMOST makes me wish Blevins was still allowed here. I'd love to hear how he spun that conversation, and we all know he would have.

So, you claim to dislike the maga agenda of American primacy, yet somehow think that it is wrong for the neighbours to comment? Frankly full of freaking unfriendly foolishness.

Hi John, IMO Nov 2024 will be the most important election in the history of this nation. What bothers me most is that many people will simply not vote. Thanks for the post; should be read by every American. Jerry Baumchen

Santos is out, becoming yet another historic bad guy and Trump is liable for J6 lawsuits. FINALLY, the winning is actually happening.

He was elected a month earlier, there was no such need. People just like you would be lambasting him for leaving his injured son to attend a swearing in ceremony and party somewhere else. You exhibit an odd dichotomism; we're supposed to laud you for standing on the wall guarding our freedoms and then stand back while you tear away at the guy who has helmed the nation away from autocracy and authored an indisputable economic recovery. Seriously, you need to get out more.

In fairness, if anyone should know if the moon landing was faked it's Ron. It's where he's from, right?

I don't know. Maybe a bible, or a world wide flood, or an archangel appearing in a burning bush, or a prophet who walks on water, or a pregnant virgin. Or any other of a host of fraudulent claims based on faith. The world is full of liars and people who blindly accept lies. You should know. Fakes are everywhere.

I took the photo. We were in the Northwest for one of Dav3e Ruckert's Cessna formation loads. Michael Burt in the Center, Steve Van Cleve on the tail. Blue Skies! Harry Leicher "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."