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I agree on not censoring. I also am not sure that some of the prolific posting is trolling but rather an indication of lack of critical thinking ability and being extremely gullible. I will admit I find some of the conspiracy posts annoying as they are devoid of any logic and end up being an endless loop of the same tired arguments and tit for tat insults.

Actually, it's because of the death grip Trump has on the Republican party. He's really the only viable candidate right now (and for the forseeable future). Most of the other 'candidates' are vying for the VP slot. Given how close Pence came to a 'necktie party' on Jan 6, I can't understand why they'd want it, but then again, they're pretty stupid. Biden has done an amazing job so far, but he's really never been super popular. I'm not a big fan of him, despite his successes. I'm far more of a fan than I was in 2020, but that's still not all that much. That's why "generic Democrat" did better in one of the polls than Biden. HOWEVER... There's no way I won't vote for Biden if he's the candidate. Even if Trump isn't. As I've said more than once, I'd vote for Howdy Doody, with Clarabelle the Clown as his running mate over ANY R candidate. I don't think I'm alone in that.

If you don't vote for Biden and Trump wins then you own a part of his victory.

Isn't that what the voucher program really has always been about, allowing rich parents a tax funded discount on private schools.

In their defense, he does look fabulous.

He's a South African skydiver who started this forum 20 some odd years ago. There was a now-famous meetup at Eloy where all the moderators (at the time) got together with him to do an 8-way.

Sure, Biden doesn't give swell, inspirational speeches like Obama did. But what problem do you have with his administrations actions?

"In NATO doctrine, propaganda is defined as "Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view." Recently a close ally of President Putin was caught by western journalists adopting a kidnapped Ukrainian child. Pictured below: Russia is a gangster state, led by an indicted war criminal, President Putin. He has a history of deliberately targeting American troops in Afghanistan. By paying bounties to the Taliban to kill US and other NATO troops. The US and the west has spent and is still spending trillions of dollars in defense spending to protect our people. Yet Speakers Corner allows blatant Russian, Chinese, Iranian propaganda to be posted again and again by a certain member here.Statements, ideas and links to crimes against children, war crimes and propaganda specifically targeted to deceive, conceal and corrupt the truth.All of these actions go far beyond trolling. Members here dance around the lies labeling it a "mathematical errors" etc. Yet the issue is far beyond what QAnon was doing a few years ago. The issue is protecting an ongoing war crime. Crimes against the elderly, children and hundreds of thousands of now dead people. Its time for moderators to bring this to an end.

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And the R party seems to be putting their eggs in a jail cell. As is often the case, voters will have to decide which is the least bad choice.

He proves daily that not only IS he still vigorous enough for such a demanding position, he then goes beyond that. He rides bikes, he runs, he exercises, he drives hotrods and hauls ass doing it. He's standing up to every evil autocrat on the planet, insulting and challenging them. He's strong enough to corral the majority of the planet to tighten NATO memberships and cooperation. He does what's RIGHT. He's stand proud doing it. WTAF would it take to show his is more than capable to those that hate him for no other reason than his age???? The tottering old man concern should be for the other idiots in the republican party. Have you seen THEIR conditions??? The continual grooming to hate members of opposing parties is disgusting. America used to be better than the idiocy we have in half of the government these days. The Republicans are a dying party. They're killing themselves. Yet some people worry about a POTUS that's doing a very impressive job given the current situation the entire planet is in....while trying to support a criminal who wears diapers?????? I swear I've gone through a time machine or some sort of portal. WTF happened to Americans????

The ultimate documenary on wokeness run amok: https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-civil-war/

Probably a good time for review of the rules here. The basics are: - No personal attacks. - No jokes about or references to pedophilia. - No advertising in the forums. - Post on topic. - No hijacking of threads. - No threads about specific posters. - No posting external media/text without commentary/attribution. Those are the big ones. Let's focus on the first one. No Personal attacks, including hate posts, flaming or trolling. Personal attacks are any variation on "you're an idiot." Hate posts are posts that are racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted, or pornographic, and intended to attack a group of people. Note that I will apply this to people who promulgate memes that are intended to harm this community or society in general (i.e. "vaccines will kill you" "alcohol doesn't affect you when you are skydiving" etc.) Flaming is posting with no other goal other than to attack someone else on the forum i.e. not to dispute a point they made, solely to attack. Trolling is posting inflammatory messages with the sole purpose of provoking others into a negative emotional response. It can be for the troll's amusement, or to fulfill a political/cultural goal, or because they are paid to do so. The reason doesn't really matter; it's the approach and the goal that makes them a troll. However, someone who posts material that infuriates you is not necessarily a troll. Someone here might post that they hate all new energy sources and they believe that all energy should come from coal. Someone else might post that they hate coal and think all new energy should come from solar. Here, the first person will tend to piss everyone off; the second one will piss people off less. Which one is a troll? You can't decide based purely on who they piss off. It depends on their goals, and we don't know them. What we can do is observe what they post. If it's self consistent and expresses a consistent opinion, that means they are less likely to be a troll. If what they post changes based on who they are answering, in order to best enrage them, then they are more likely to be a troll. If their posts are nonsensical they are more likely to be trolling. If their posts answer specific points in someone else's posts, they are less likely to be trolling. We make these distinctions because we do not want to ban someone based on how mad they make other people. That leads to a forum full of intolerant people who have self-selected to only believe a specific range of things by banning anyone with beliefs outside that range. It's better, IMO, to keep the contentious posters here and have the intolerant leave if they cannot bear to read their content. Since we now have tools that allow people to block such contentious posters, there is no need to read anyone you don't want to. I will add that the more trollish posters tend to regularly violate other rules (personal attack, hate posts etc) and so get banned fairly regularly anyway. We can permanently ban someone who keeps doing this, but we have done that only rarely to avoid the problems we mentioned above. As a final note, this website is owned by Willem, and it's effectively his house. He opens his house to everyone, but reserves the right to give them the boot if they're rude, or not gracious, or heck if they say "aboot" instead of "about." It's his money and his website. Keep that in mind while posting.

The one about the looking Mexican on page 24 is Gregory. Page 25 is Labissoniere. 26 is again Gregory 27 is a repeat of the info from Page 25, so it's Labissoniere again. 28, the Nov 21 one is Gregory and Nov 22 is Labissoniere. 29 is either Bill or Spreckel, but likely Spreckel. 30 is Labissoniere. 31 is Labissoniere. 32 is Gregory It's important to remember that the majority of what you're seeing there are criticisms of the Bing sketch. Only pages 28-30 are criticisms of Comp B. The ID kit would be nice to have and what we were just discussing slipped through all of our fingers last week on Ebay. I was so pissed when I saw that someone had sold one of those that it gave me a migraine. Been looking diligently for that book for over a year. Interestingly, we do have this sketch on the right that was actually drawn by Spreckel. I've FOIA'd for a high res scan of it. I'll certainly post it whenever I receive it.

FIFY Reading comprehension and the separation of admitted conspiracy peddlers trolling. All for the benefit of an indicted war criminal and gangster state. Are other issues that he can't seem to separate from reality.

The head shape is consistent with essentially every witness description, with Alice's head shape selection, and also consistent with photos of Allen Cooper and Donald Murphy, two men we know that the stews picked out of photo lineups as looking like Cooper. Hell, all Nancy House could remember was that he had dark hair and a narrow face. Cooper 100% had a narrow face with a sharp chin.

He worked at a paint shop so he knew colours... Russet is a reddish brown and can range to almost black. That image was head shape only,,, not the details and other features. The shape isn't far off the sketch.

The fairer sex has become UNFAIR and no longer knows to stay in their place.

It looks like the Sandy Hook families are getting closer to collecting some of what Jones owes them. https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/alex-jones-needs-sandy-hook-222152347.html

So you want to take my tax money and give it to rich people so they can buy another BMW. I am going to laugh even harder the next time you complain about taxes. ======================= Republican-controlled legislatures in Florida, Iowa, Arkansas and elsewhere passed massive expansions to school vouchers this year . . . When school choice programs began decades ago, they were primarily meant to assist low-income families seen to be trapped in failing local public schools and students with disabilities. But the new vouchers in many cases lift — or even eliminate — household income caps, giving wealthier families state cash to send their kids to private schools. With enrollment surging in these programs — which Republicans say shows how desperate families are for more education choices — early data shows that students in some of these states aren’t leaving their public schools for private options. Instead, most scholarships are going to incoming kindergarteners and students already enrolled in private schools. ======================= https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/22/inside-school-voucher-debate-00128377

Anyone else open this thread expecting a critique of the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical?

I hope everyone has a great day, whether or not you celebrate this particular one Wendy P.

Yeah, they still make them, and people still buy them. Even now, I don't think anything flies as flat, and turns as quickly (at least on toggles). They are probably a terrible swooping platform, but I don't swoop so that's fine. You can dance around, turn super flat to get yourself out of trouble in a crowded pattern, and get yourself back from things that other people don't. The popular canopy I would compare it to surprises people a lot: I think it's like a more aggressive Pilot, but flares (way) better under load. The "even uneven leg straps" fear was, I think, a product of the jumping population getting used to twitchy elliptical canopies in general. People have gotten way better at deploying stably and understanding how their body input affects their flight. The wind tunnel probably helped the Stiletto mal rate a lot, ironically. And you need to actively fly the opening, rather than just letting things happen to you, but that's true of a lot of canopies nowadays and it's not the "Spinetto" of stereotype.

In a system like that weather cycles would be pretty complicated. Edit......Oops, I see now have injected controversy into the Bonfire. Sorry about that. The universe is so fascinating and the more we learn the more it is so.

NINE YEARS!!!!! Flirting with each other here was the start, then the flirting at boogies and drop zones. She had my heart the second our eyes met. I love you baby, let's continue our adventure filled journey through life together. now to get her back here to see this.... *Chuck Blue was right. Thanks brother!