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Who then compete with the existing tech job people - if they can be retrained. I'll give you two examples here. The first is Weston. I had him as an intern while I was at Qualcomm; he was in high school at the time. We filed two patents together, and he built an induction furnace for fun to melt stuff. He went on to MIT then got his PhD at Stanford in power electronics. He's looking for a job now. The second is Joe. Joe was a janitor at Cantiaque Park in New York and part of my summer job was to "keep an eye" on him as he did his rounds. I had to keep an eye on him because he had cut his finger off while changing a toilet paper role a few years back and they didn't want another lawsuit from his family. He did NOT have Down Syndrome - he told me "he'd been tested." But his intelligence level was such that he had trouble operating a mop (and of course changing rolls of toilet paper.) For every Weston out there there's a Joe. Weston will always be able to find work. Joe could barely handle being a janitor. And when his job is replaced by a cleaning robot, or a larger paper towel dispenser, or even nanocoatings that make dirt slide down the drain, he won't be able to be retrained for a new job. And even if it isn't replaced, he is going to have to compete with all the OTHER low skilled workers who have been displaced by robotic garbage trucks, robocallers and lawnmower robots. So that's going to be the challenge we face in the years to come. And it's going to take a significant change to accommodate them.

Got my shots (Flu, COVID) yesterday. I have no desire to join the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers underground just yet. Black line is stupid/MAGA,/unvaccinated, blue is vaccinated.

I thought Slim King was a Reca dude, but now he’s peddling the Rackstraw grift?

What you think is not important.. they crumbled to dust.. impossible to have been re-buried.. case closed.

Nonsense.

The rubber bands crumbled when touched,,, when the money was picked up. The rubber bands were too brittle to be re-buried...

Wrong as usual Slim... The rubber bands were brittle and crumbled when touched... that proves the money was NOT just buried. The money had been there for some time..

Sure, but not Polaroid camera film of all things. That's inexplicable. I'm still maintaining that Cooper was too sly of an individual to be just breaking into stores and risking everything he just accomplished by being reckless. This is a guy who kept the passengers in the dark. He liked to keep a low profile. He'd have just played it cool during his escape, same as McCoy and Mac did. He didn't need to break into a place to use the phone and risk getting shot or god knows whatever else. He could have just kept walking a few extra miles to Woodland and just walked into any gas station that was open and asked to use the phone. Or he could have hitchhiked a ride. He's dressed in a suit after all: "Hey, my car broke down a few miles back, can you take me someplace with a phone real quick?"

Yes, that's why you steal it if you see some just sitting out. Let's try to be real here...A guy who just jumped from a jet with 200k isn't taking Polaroid film.

If there was alcohol taken I’d be much more inclined to believe this scenario with teens/young adults. I talked to the sister of the owner of the Heisson store, who worked there in 71 and she said break ins from the local honorary punks were common and beer/smokes were the norm. I don’t know how you could say what a skyjacker would take, but let me turn the question around on you. You don't think a skyjacker breaking into a store to use the phone would steal some random shit on the way out?

It is not a highly skilled job. But it does require a degree of discipline that many of those who are homeless probably lack.

Uh huh. That's like saying algebra isn't maths because letters can't be numbers.

That's a crazy premium just to look cool in a Mercedes. How much is a PCV Valve replacement in a Tesla?

Hi Bill, Spot on. This is exactly what my original post was all about. I am a ret'd engineer [ but, I am still an engineer, that will never change ] and I love new technology. The big BUT is what about those that have been replaced? As you said, the $64,000 question. Jerry Baumchen

Which means that in right wing circles he is completely unqualified to have an opinion, because Ben Shapiro said something different on Youtube.

Income inequality, greed and capitalism.

The post title should read "What's your favorite FAR?"

Manual labor on assembly lines can and have been retrained for tech jobs. Friends on the auto lines in Detroit - 1 went into robotics and maintains the machinery on the lines, the other went into auto engineering and is working on driveline designs. CAD operators are still in need as well. I do realize some hardcore manual labor folks will continue to have challenges, adult education/continuing education is available, and some immigrants are having success with family recipe food trucks for just a few examples. Others will continue to need help, and some people just seem to have endless bad luck in life forever - as a society I hope we continue to assist where we can.

Last I heard, Russia isn't even burying their own.

Unfortunately IT is not unskilled labor. People with skills will always have good opportunities for employment. But what do we do about the rest?

That's the question, isn't it? If technology provides so much more output per working person, at the cost of increased unemployment, then some of that output goes towards living expenses for the people displaced by that technology (in a fair world at least.) How much is that? That will be the $64,000 question. The capitalist answer (i.e. the capable make more $$$ and everyone else dies) is going to become increasingly unpalatable for the unemployed, so avoiding that could avoid a lot of bloodshed.

Hey buddy - that looks to me like you're asking for help. And since it's here on a message board, I'll respond here as well. If you need someone to talk to you can PM me for my number anytime. Or I can help you find somebody else if you like. There's always an answer out there somewhere. BTW - I just went through having a jumper make a very permanent and stupid decision that the rest of us have to live with. Please don't do that to anyone you care about.

When you consider that the owner of any small business needs skills in: writing a business plan, obtaining financing, purchasing, maintaining airplanes, maintaining buildings and grounds, janitorial, taking out the trash, interior decorating, hiring staff, training staff, firing staff, monitoring weather, marketing, public relations, sweet-talking the local city council, sweet-talking airport managers, sweet-talking the FAA, etc. ...... the list of required skill is long and complex with skydiving skills being late in the process .... I have done every job on a DZ (pilot, airplane mechanic, janitor, laying sod, rigger, instructor, coach, load-organizer, manifest, etc.) except management. management requires far more headaches then I am willing to attempt.

Sir this is America, anyone with a beer belly, general disdain for other people's happiness, a bad attitude, and some austere story about once being good at something (think Al Bundt QB story) can be one HELL of a DZO.

(continuing from thoughts in https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/279585-fatality-24-sept-2022-skydive-carolina/) Really thinking about what you've said, my point of clarity in what we say, and how that leads to how we think... and what actions come from the words/thoughts... Maybe (open for discussion), we need two _different_ altitudes in mind: Decision Altitude - I don't have a landable main, I am going to stop trying to fix it and get rid of it in favor of my reserve. Hard Deck - I don't have a landable main NOR the altitude to cutaway. I am going to take whatever action I have to (by the book or not) to get my decent rate down as much as I can. (mid-air rigging, cutting the line over, cutting the jammed brakeline that is knotted, adding the reserve to the mess, etc...) We tend to use the terms interchangeably, but maybe we shouldn't. (that I've heard expressed that way) While I am NOT wanting to add more complexity to the FJC, but there are many things we pass on to jumpers later in their career... maybe this is one of them. Does anyone teach these as two different concepts/terms/altitudes? Obviously, if you don't have a landable main, and its not going to get better (or... if its getting worse), even if you are above "decision altitude", I would agree with the adage "Don't Delay, Cutaway!!" JW

Good points. The decision altitude definition does reference emergencies and since it says "must" it can be implied that above that altitude a jumper still has other options like continuing to work on a mal, get out of a wrap, etc. As for the hard deck definition, I think that can be applied to any altitude-specific scenario like bailing out of an aircraft, chopping a mal, etc. This could be better stated. I will pass this along to S&T for a possible rewrite. Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

Not sure what you find unclear. DECISION ALTITUDE: A predetermined altitude at which you must decide and act during an emergency. Meaning the altitude at which a jumper should make the decision that action must be taken and take it. Example - the (minimum) altitude at which a jumper would decide to cut away and deploy a reserve. HARD DECK: A predetermined altitude above which an action must occur or below which an action must not occur. Meaning the altitude at which it is no longer safe to take an action one would normally take at or above the decision altitude. Example - a jumper rides a malfunction to an altitude so low that it is no longer safe to cut away (hard deck) and a different action would be appropriate, like deploying a reserve without cutting away, attempting a canopy transfer, etc.

From the USPA Skydiver's Information Manual: DECISION ALTITUDE: A predetermined altitude at which you must decide and act during an emergency. HARD DECK: A predetermined altitude above which an action must occur or below which an action must not occur. In rating courses, it indicates a minimum altitude by which a certain maneuver must be performed in order to get credit for the action. No need to guess or invent definitions when there are accepted ones already in use.

Did you pack too ? .... sorry, I had to say it .... Life is short ... jump often.