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Gods dont kill people. People with Gods kill people

Hi Ken, During that long ago Bible Study, I asked the pastor if the people who lived in jungles & could never hear about the Christian god would go to Hell because they had never accepted Jesus as their savior. He said that they would. Further reinforcement of my decision. In other words, horse-puckey at its finest. Jerry Baumchen

First lawsuit to disqualify Trump filed in Florida.

Yes, and that's important to remember. I think there are a whole lot of decent folks who use the community of Christianity to be even better decent folks. That's great and worthy of admiration. But I don't think that without Christianity many would be terrible people completely careless of the fates of their fellow humans. It's just a tool that makes them feel better and be more effective being who they already were.

They enjoy many freedoms and advantages politically(unlimited lobbying), economically(taxation), etc. Book burning, control over the GOP, control over the USSC allows them to excise outsized influences over society. They aim such controls not for altruistic reasons but solely for control over all of the population and state. All of which is fundamentally undemocratic if not evil.

Well shirt this is 120 miles longer than ATACMS. President Biden lets move on the ATACMS.

Why isn't BIden using a sharpie to redirect it???

My wife (MD, atheist) is spending today voluteering her services at a medical clinic for migrants bussed out of Texas by those wonderful Christian governors down in the south.

That would be a convenient way out of the mess the GOP is mired in.

Spiting Russian threats that they would be crossing a "Red Line", Germany is sending their Taurus long range cruise missile to Ukraine. It's a true bunker buster and has a 310 mile range. Say goodbye to the Kerch Bridge.

Bullshit, at least in my experience. My girls were never selfish and didn't require any indoctrination. Oddly, you do have to teach children to believe the nonsense and hatred of religion, by indoctrination. I'm so glad I didn't do that. I did expose them to religion enough for them to make their own decisions about it. None of them are "believers". The reality of life has taught them better.

FIFY. Hence "God, guns and country" for the christian right and in that order. Dominion theology is the objective of Christians. p.s. The title of the thread is correct.

I too am all for people taking comfort in whatever will make the one life they will ever have more pleasant. Unfortunately for too many believers like Jay and Ron, no matter how they protest, the truth is they will never be happy until you and I believe it too.

I’ll take door #3, please. I have friends of faith who I enjoy spending time with. With one, it was an early conversation in the friendship the first time they tried to ‘save’ me: believe what you want, I’m open to discussing it, but don’t go preaching. If faith makes somebody’s life better then kudos to them: who’s not looking for a tool to make life better?!? Just don’t use your faith as a weapon against others. Apparently, as read above, God grants ‘sin exemptions’ for babies and the mentally impaired. Does God view other religions as mentally impaired or will they all burn in hell too? (Asking for a friend)

Funny how the OT god was all vengeance and jealousy, who would smite people (or populations) down for the slightest infractions (after all, what sin did the Egyptian firstborn commit that they all had to be killed, for just one example). Then the OT god must have had sessions with a therapist and became all lovey dovey in the NT. Love thy neighbor. . . , he who is without sin. . . etc. Or maybe it's just multiple personality disorder. Then again maybe it's all mumbo-jumbo.

You don't do conspiracy theories? Then why do you go on and on about "redactions"? Why do you continually imply that the FAA and/or FBI is covering something up? The Western Flight Path exists because you decided "a plane wouldn't fly that way", and you have spent the last ten years using logical fallacies and unsubstantiated cloak and dagger cover ups involving mysterious redactions and feeble attempts to put some teeny tiny doubt in the USAF flight. If I'm wrong, then provide some real evidence, some real data, some document, some real witness statements that prove a WFP. You want me to wipe egg off my face, start right now.

The existence of God is easily provable to anyone who first opens their mind to the existence of God and accepts the Bible as his Word.

I didn't teach in a public school so I have no more insight than anyone else. Has Trump reversed course on loving the poorly educated? If not, then it's as true now as when he first said it.

Hi jakee, I am no expert on religion for sure. However, this comment is directly opposite of what I was taught 60+ yrs ago: Who has led a proper and pious life according to God's standard of righteousness, which is the one you will ultimately be judged by, one without even an once of selfishness, pride, covetousness, hatred, adultery, lies, etc.? It was 1956 & I was taking a Bible Study class with my brother. My brother spent his time in class chatting up the girls, I spent my time 'discussing' religion with the pastor. I specifically remember him telling me that I could live a wild & crazy, sinful, wicked life, but, if I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior prior to my death, I would enter the Kingdom of God. THAT is when I called it quits on the stupidity of it. Different strokes for different folks. Jerry Baumchen

Then why are babies "tainted" with original sin? They had nothing to do with that shit. And why is everyone blamed for a mythical guy's death at the hands of the Romans? Again, the Romans should take the blame for that shit. We don't crucify people anymore.

He is stating that by command of a god no human is born innocent but instead are sin criminals; scapegoats for a supreme being who are further commanded to fix themselves before the penalty for simply coming into existence gets a whole lot worse. Furthering the misery is the knowledge that your sinful existence is a consequence of your mother engaging in perfectly natural activities that few amongst us have the will power to resist. Such twisted thinking is obvious nonsense to anyone not brainwashed to receive it as knowledge.

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Here’s my $0.02, for what it’s worth….if your faith makes your life better and you wanna share that then fill your fucking boots, I’m happy for you. If you want to start telling me I’m going to burn for eternity because I don’t believe in your imaginary friend, I’m happy to write you off as a person worth giving another minute of my time.

Thanks for the info Tim! I'm going to do my AFF in FL next month and then jump from the DZ in E-town after I'm licensed.

For me the solution was atheism and the consequent freedom to choose based upon provable facts. Unfortunately for democracy mine is the minority view in America. I suspect the majority are about to receive the government they believe they want. Ironically the result will make me a little more free: free to not care as much or at all. As a white male I’ll be in the protected class. I’ll lose no agency, equality or opportunity. As for all of the groups that will be gifted even more eroded circumstances, well they must have had damn good reasons for not voting or voting as they chose.