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Bill, Wendy, Do we really have to allow this?

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Interesting article. It's from September, but it has some good info. It also has some predictions that didn't quite come true. One thing that has become crystal clear is how bad the corruption is/was. Virtually ALL the money intended for keeping the military functional was stolen. So the military is barely able to do anything. Let alone win a war. You have to wonder how far it goes. I know Putin had threatened to use nukes, but shut up. He then tried to pretend that Ukraine was going to set off a radiological device (dirty bomb), which nobody with half a brain believed. Did he shut up about nukes because he found out that the money intended to keep them operational had been stolen and the 'nuclear arsenal' was just a pile of radioactive junk? I don't know but it's plausible. I believe he stopped trying to pretend that Ukraine was going to use a dirty bomb because he was told in no uncertain terms that: A - Nobody in the west believed it was going to be Ukrainian, that it would be Russian (and they would likely be able to prove it from analysis of the residue) B - If Russia used nuclear material in any form that Russia would suffer severe consequences. I've read a variety of sources making a variety of claims. I both do and don't believe them. One was that if Russia used any sort of nuke, the entire Russian Navy would cease to exist. Every ship at sea sunk, every ship in port (along with the port facilities) destroyed. Not sure how plausible that is, but the Russian navy is a faint shadow of it's former Soviet self. It's becoming more and more clear that Russia has lost the war. They probably lost any chance of winning last summer when they failed to win in the first 3 or 4 months. The threats of nukes, and the attacks on civilian infrastructure just reinforce this. Putin isn't attacking the Ukrainian military because he really can't. So he bombs civilians.

Camels and bananas work for the C I A ! Everthang is C I A ... even Wonder Bread !

Oh piffle. You don't need NOAA to look foolish. You do it very well all by yourself.

Rob Bertrand's DB Cooper screenplay "The Sky Way", which won several awards, is the one that I wish a big Hollywood movie had used. It's as close to the 302's as you could possibly get. The only fictional narrative that he inserts at all into that screenplay is that when Tina rejects the money from Cooper, he tells her that he's going to leave it in a safe place for her and whenever it is found she'll know that he lived. The last scene of the movie after Cooper jumps is a flash forward to Tina at her convent watching the Tena Bar money find on the news and just smiling or something like that.

The problem with this movie is that there will be things in it that become "facts" that are not. Hollywood always plays loose with actual events takes their own liberties with the truth. In a sense, they sometimes change history, or at least change perception of it. The Zodiac movie is a great example. A lot of people watched that movie and took it all as fact. It was not, though some of it was. Unlike Zodiac however, I doubt this movie will introduce any suspects. I don't think it's that type of movie, as it's more about Tina. Still, I suspect that even with Tina involved, there will be things they get wrong, either deliberately or just out of ignorance. It will be nearly impossible to convince the newcomers that are led to this case through that movie that those things, regardless of their significance, are inaccurate. Just me, but I would be very skeptical about anything "new" that came from it.

Its easy to quarterback now - 50 yrs later! Tina is an easy target. People want or expect perfection. (not going to happen) Recall one camp said Tina was a 'vegetable', traumatised beyond use. Tosaw, Smith, Cook ... until that turned out to be wrong! Intentional deception? Trauma syndrome? That would require exceptional proof. Give the woman a break! Sometimes a cigar is ...................... you know how that goes. There is no evidence Tina was party to the crime.

I have had several different back pads from several different manufacturers, and I can confidently say that none of them have ever made a difference. It might just be where I've lived. It goes from fun springtime temps, to brutal, ruin your soul hot summer temps pretty quickly. A fun mesh design in my backpad has been the last thing on my mind when I'm trying not to die of heatstroke. I'm sure there are varying opinions on this, but if money was a factor for me, I wouldn't bother with any of the backpad upgrades.

Understood. For whatever it's worth, I personally can describe many, many things in great detail about the day I keep referring to, and yet can't tell you a thing about the face of the guy who saved us, beyond the most general elements (race, rough age range, very rough height). I can tell you his name, and I've since read his story around the day, but if you interviewed me even a couple of days later I wouldn't have been able to tell you much more than that. As I say, as of now he could be the guy drinking coffee next to me and I wouldn't know. Flip side, if you talked to me that night I would have been able to be very specific. That's why I caution against using logic-brain to decode trauma brain. Some stuff imprints, some doesn't, and the pattern is random and weird-looking sometimes. Even the money hunt is completely explainable to me, and familiar to me based on something I did too. We don't find it easy to process what is called "single-blow" trauma; we fire off in all directions and it's all a mess up there. I can see her sort of instinctively wanting to close that open door, so to speak. With the usual caveat that you might be right and correct. I just find everything you're mentioning completely explainable and not at all surprising, given the trauma of a 22-year-old woman being told that for all she knows, at any moment the plane she is on will explode and she will die. That state of lizard-brain jumpiness does crazy things to the normal coding we do. /horse

Hi Chuck, This is exactly why I came back for a 2nd jump. Jerry Baumchen

He was a true OG, both on dz.com and in wingsuiting. I feel like I was probably checking his instructional videos when figuring out how to backfly my old BM Skyflyer... around 15 years ago.

She was 22, and female, in the world of 1971. It is just as likely she either came to doubt herself or wanted to avoid conflict or ridicule, as that she is part of some conspiracy or willful plot. Not only that, she's had 50 years to come clean about something that her 22-year-old self would have done out of bad judgment. Your conclusion may be right, but I don't think the information leads there in any direct or reasonable way. She was a human for 22 years before this and for another 50 so far after it. Anything that occurred is far more likely to be a quirk of human nature than some kind of plot.

The underlying cause of this incident is Americas lust for and love of killing machines being allowed to grow unchecked. But someone will be found to blame.

Looks to be working now...

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Sixth grade logic to accompany sixth grade name calling.