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Pertinent article: A Year of Botched Executions https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/12/botched-executions-alabama-witness/672578/ As far as I'm concerned all arguments along the lines of "it isn't a perfect system", "exoneration is difficult", "it's irreversible, what if you get it wrong", etc. are moot. States simply should not be in the business of killing their citizens.

If that means "no one really cares any more because everyone is a little different" then that's a win.

It's a holiday weekend for most of the people on dz.com, and I hope it's a good one. Even if you're working this weekend, I hope it can be with a sense of purpose and help and looking forward. Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, wonderful Kwanzaa, and may 2023 be full of future Wendy P.

The thing about chain letters is that some people make out like bandits. Basically because they are bandits.

He lied about the election being a fraud. He admitted it under oath. Please, please please, airdvr, Brent, Ron, et al, let it detonate in your brains that you have been deceived. Much of what you believe is a manufactured construct.

Sandy was my jumpmaster on jump #1 at Austin Lake, MI.

My brother Rob passed last night .Me and my sister and one of his friends Ron were with him.He had MDS a bone marrow. disease he had it for years. Only in the last two years did it really interfere with the the way he wanted to live his life. Me my sister and aunt Dee and the people up in the rv park pulled together to help him.Rob was so independent and would never ask for any help.Rob had more fun than i will ever have.He loved life and people.Nothing made him happier than having a room full of friends smoking pot drinking a little and listening to music.He soloed a airplane when he was 16 and was a encyclopedia of all things that flew.Ill miss him Comment Share

The "hoax" that put Trump's campaign manager in jail for colluding with a Russian agent? It's like right wingers just change the definition of words when they are losing the argument.

At least with tulip bulbs you can grow tulips.

There is so much that is odd, conflicting, or doesn't make sense about obtaining the chutes. It's my understanding that the FBI didn't tell anybody what they were for, is that right? So the FBI asks, and people just hand them over, no questions asked? If they knew there was a hostage situation and they're trying to keep a criminal from blowing people up, I can see them cooperating, but otherwise? The flight service guy that gets Hayden's rigs, he's aviation oriented, you'd think that he'd know enough to say that those chutes are for emergencies and not really suitable for intentional jumps. And the chutes form the dropzone. Who did they talk to? Did they call Cossey? Did they call the dropzone? Emrick makes the comment about looking for older ones - if they called the dz and Emrick answered, he owns the place and knows his gear, he wouldn't necessarily need to call Cossey. Cossey mentions a skydiver staying at the loft - does that guy answer the phone, then call Cossey asking what to do? Whether he's mistaken or lying, Cossey's first description sounds like they sent a sport rig (with D-rings) and a good reserve, and a bailout rig (no D-rings) and a dummy reserve. If Cossey knows what's going on, is that his way of discouraging the hijacker from making Tina jump? But Cossey doesn't know, right? If I'm Emrick and I answer the phone and they're asking for chutes, I'm going to ask what they're for. People should know what they're doing with these things. And my thought would be to send student gear. It's nobody's personal rigs, and in that era they'd be basic military surplus gear, and the easiest to replace? And if they tell Emrick that they have back ones and just need front ones, isn't he going to ask about that? He would know that front ones aren't compatible with bailout rigs. Does he just keep his mouth shut about that so as not to volunteer two more of his rigs? And it says that Cooper had already opened the good reserve before Tina brought in the last parachute. Was that last one the dummy reserve? You'd think that if he had them both there, he'd open the dummy and get the lines out of that. But if he opened the good one before seeing the dummy, that may have pissed him off and be what prompted him to pitch that one out, out of frustration. And the FBI relying on Cossey's descriptions after the fact - even if Cossey was honestly mistaken, the FBI would know which ones they gave. Every time Cossey starts to describe his gear, you'd think they'd say no, we gave Cooper the Hayden bailout rigs, describe those (knowing Cossey packed them)? ???????

So, is it supposed to be a currency? Or an investment? Where is the value supposed to come from? Nothin from nothin leaves nuthin.

The problem IS Crypto. Soon, the nearly 1,855 other bitcoin-like currencies out there will begin to tumble. This was a bad investment from the beginning. I looked into it in the beginning, but chose not to pursue it. It was a solution looking for a problem. He's right that it didn't matter which currenncy was used in the fraud, but ya, the silver lining is that bad actors will tumble away along with their useless coins, regulations will make it more stable, but with less opportunity for the little guy.

I think the spelling of "FOX News" is incorrect. Shouldn't it be "FAUX News".

And yet you so reliably turn up with all the major conservative talking points. You were quoting Trump almost word for word on the Pelosi break in. How do you think that happens?

FOX, the most trusted international propaganda network by Russians.

You would think,,, take it to the next level.. that means they were looking for the wrong chute and rejected many found over the years based on Cossey's description.. Cooper's chute might have been found and rejected.. and how can they have two backpack packing cards from the plane and not realize one was the chute Cooper took.. and further the FBI wants the money or the chutes.. if they don't have the chute description correct they won't be able to ID any chute.. Seems either there is a game being played or gross negligence.

Hannity lied. Dog bites man.

Dear sfzombie13, Sailors will tell you that you need a rag to inspect steel cables. There are two methods of inspection. First, you can slide the rag along the steel cable to check for broken strands. Secondly, you can slide your bare hand down the cable, then use the rag to staunch your bleeding hand. Hah! Hah!

Robert and I have been friends since at least the mid 90's. More hours than I care to admit sitting in his trailer, listening to music, smoking a joint. Robert could always be relied upon for a breakfast burrito or a cheeseburger most days. Every once in awhile he would drive down to Bakersfield and stay with me and Heidi for the weekend and he was always willing to help out while he was here. I drove up to see him while he was in the Hospital in Ridgecrest and I knew then he was in pretty bad shape. I talked to him several times on the phone since then with Oct 30th leaving him a VM on his phone---------------I guess he had already passed at that point. I will miss Robert and his quick comeback puns :) Jack

I met Robert at Cal. City in 1995-96. He really liked his Zappa, always had a smile on his face, loved airplanes, really took care of Cal City.

Oh no. I knew Robert years ago when I jumped at Cal City. One of the kindest, coolest, funniest, most generous people ever. So sad to hear. So sorry for the loss.