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I can't help it; This whole conversation keeps reminding me of:

My very good friend and Air Trash webmaster passed suddenly on Wed. December 22, 2021 while clearing brush on a property. Fred has been involved in skydiving since the early days. He was a good friend to all and has kept up the AT website for the last 10 years. I will miss you my friend. Rest in peace Brother.

It might not be Baffin, but definitely some exits out there on the Labrador coast. All you need is a teleporter. https://www.google.com/maps/place/58°00'00.0"N+63°00'00.0"W

Finally passed Level 3. Went immediately into that same left turn but this time I countered it, relaxed, breathed, and all was good.

"Yes and how many deaths will it take 'til he knows That too many people have died?" ; Bob Dylan, Blowin' in the Wind. Applies to pretty much very GOP politician.

I'm with Flyjack on the air stairs, and I don't need to have Hahneman as a suspect to think this way, so no bias here. Initial demands seem to be air stairs up, with aft door open, which makes total sense. Cabin stays de-pressurized, plane can take off. Somewhere along the line he decides he wants the stairs more easily accessible, so he says something along the lines of halfway down. That makes total sense. Leave the stairs unlocked, and hanging, but not touching the ground. This allows the aircraft to take off. Air stairs locked down and hitting the ground just does not make any sense. I would challenge someone to get all the documents relating to this exchange and post those. Flyjack has posted the sequence of communications, so what out there trumps this? Whether he jumped where he wanted or not is up to interpretation. I believe he jumped almost exactly where he wanted to. Jumping in a city does not make sense to me, nor does jumping in the wilderness past Portland. After that point he has no idea where the plane will be, except if it goes to Mexico City. However, part of me thinks this guy had such a death wish that he just figured he could escape and evade from anywhere. Flyjack is one of the few who actually post the relevant evidence (302's, book excerpts). So who has the equivalent evidence that he wanted the stairs down at takeoff from the beginning?

There’s meds, therapy, punishment, exile, and doing nothing. We’ve pretty much run out of room for true exile, punishment hasn’t been great (that whole recidivism thing), and meds are cheaper than therapy. They exist. Are you proposing the “nothing” approach? Or just a study to see what drugs they have in common. I’d bet that alcohol is high on many lists of troubled people Wendy P.

Desk job for 30 days?

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Multnomah Falls? So that's a thing organized by a bunch of commies. Guy I know sells the buckets to the ex-Rajneeshie bucket brigade that totes the water to the top. It's always the simplest and most obvious explanation.

I saved mine for the next use. You would be surprised at the number of times I've loaned it out.

You need to understand this case has very few 100% facts, try listing them to see, we don't even know Cooper jumped in Wa as a fact, you can cast doubt on almost anything in this case. That is why this case is so difficult and polarizing, so we use the evidence to draw inference. That is how you move a case like this along.... most of what we know about the case is by inference. The lure of the Cooper case is to use your own logic, reason, experience and historical knowledge to pull the few pieces together into a cohesive picture.. an intellectual puzzle with most of the pieces missing and some that don't belong. It may appear to not accomplish anything but it does... if Cooper changed his LZ mid hijacking then that tells us something. If Cooper's first demand was airstairs lowered inflight then his plan was not to land near Seattle as Ulis claims.

At the very least can we please get a decent waiting period if you want a gun? Any gun. Not discriminatory. There is simply no situation anyone can reasonably find themselves in where they NEED an AR-15 that same day.

I don't know anything about this one specifically. Over the years I've been involved in four different access organizations, all of which eventually devolved into infighting between the participants.

It's worth noting at this point that we see similar discussions on the incidents forum fairly often. Someone will do a low turn and break or kill themselves, and discussion will ensue. Fairly often (twice I can think of on the forum and twice in person) a conversation like this happens: JoeNewbie:"Why are you trying to analyze this to death? He was an idiot and he turned too low. He shouldn't have been on that canopy." JimOldTimer: "Well Joe you have a tiny canopy and you've had some issues. Maybe you should get some coaching to prevent something like this." JoeNewbie: "I am NOTHING like that guy! That's ridiculous! I am far more competent/skilled/experienced. You're nuts." Then a week/a month/a year later we read about how Joe broke himself (or killed himself) under that too-small canopy. One guy (this was someone I knew at my DZ) was like this. He kept downsizing until he could barely land his canopy, then he'd crow about how he was a good canopy pilot because he successfully jumped a dangerous canopy. Someone else would break their leg; wouldn't faze him. "Well he was an idiot." Someone else would die. "Well I'm not going to make such a stupid mistake." He got grounded at his home DZ for one sketchy landing too many. Then we made a trip to Eloy, and he showed up, telling us triumphantly "I'm not grounded HERE!" He started jumping. On one landing he landed too close to the mockup and took out Airspeed. Bryan Burke yelled at him, but that wasn't enough. On the last load of the day we were on jump run and we got a hold due to an injury on the field. No one had to even ask who it was. He ended up with an ambulance ride and a badly broken thumb. That still wasn't enough. I didn't see his final jump, but it put him in the hospital for months. Last I heard of him, they think he will walk again with lots of rehab. And now he becomes the example that the next jumper can point at and say "I am NOTHING like him! I'm far more competent." These forums are largely bullshit - people getting into stupid arguments over abortion, or how other rigs are deathtraps but THEIR rig is super, or what would happen if you towed the DZ with a tractor. But occasionally (and mostly in the Incidents forum) there's something that happens that you can learn from. Even if you are positive that you are nothing like that poor former skydiver. If there's anything good that might come from Billy's death, it's that - a chance to reflect on how something like this can happen, even to someone who believes themselves to be a safe and competent gun owner, and regularly explains that.

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Particularly that third one Wendy P.

No Sir. But, the way we handle criminals is ridiculous. The number incarcerated for "soft" crimes is too high, the time for hard crimes is too short and the tansition from criminal to society is retarded. But that is just one man's opinion.

Texans without opinions? More likely 6% just told the pollster to fuck off.

What a looser response