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Two GOP senators share photos of Zelenskyy during call after lawmakers asked not to by Ukraine Zelensky's response:

To avoid talking at cross purposes - a no fly zone means direct conflict between NATO and Russian forces. It means shooting at Russian planes and killing Russian aircrew. Bigun’s point, which I fully agree with, is that you can’t talk about a no fly zone as if it’s an alternative to entering into combat. A no fly zone is combat, so you simply have to think in terms of whether you want NATO to be in direct combat against Russia or not.

Sure. But remember the argument was instituting something that wouldn't draw NATO into the conflict. Only have European countries involved and not have the US actively involved. That was Joe's 9and maybe yours too?) argument. So by now that means any non-NATO European nation implementing a no-fly zone, having Russia see that as a declaration of war and not having it escalate to a full blown NATO/US involvement. My argument consistently has been that this is not possible and any scenario you can dream of that might fit into that box is naïve. Can't say I have seen a suggestion that would work and not significantly escalate the conflict. (though I am really not opposed to escalating the conflict. I believe we are already in WW3 and we might as well escalate earlier and defeat him now)

Being consistently scoffable doesn't mean every idea a guy has should be immediately scoffed. I really don't want it to get around but I liked your idea first.

spring...is right around the corner

This is the beginning of some kind of war with Russia. Something more than cold war 2.0 but hopefully less than WWIII. Either that or the Russians replace Putin and settle. These are interesting times.

I'm currently going with this one as offered by BIGUN for my edification. https://warontherocks.com/2022/03/the-dangerous-allure-of-the-no-fly-zone/ As far as Putin, not that I know of but if and when he does or doesn't you'll be right again.

This is what I believe will happen. But slowly in stages ratcheting up the pressure on Putin. He has crossed the Rubicon now.

They were his black Ukrainian female friends who all happen to be completely opposed to wokeness, liberalism, paid maternity leave and whatever else you might suggest because of course they are.

Better question. Why does this only seem to happen to Icons, in France, at this specific loft? That would lead me to believe that someone needs to have their packing investigated.