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I thought he was doing a Tebow.

There is a reason container systems are TSOed with drop testing and not static testing. Of course the Talon TSO was issued many years ago and probably was tested with velcro riser covers. The scenario with a total mal where the reserve risers need to pop the covers will always be high speed. The RI rpc with a nearly 3 ft long spring is a very high drag piece of equipment. The force generated is much more than that used in the video. I'm sure that by now Sandy, who is retired from the business is aware of this thread. He has come under personal attack by a man who is in a business dispute with him. Since it is unlikely that Sandy is going to dignify this with any sort of reply, which he absolutely should not do, I feel someone should point this out. There are not as many Curvs in the marketplace as some of the other brands. But there are many nonetheless. If there has been a problem in the field with riser covers not opening on reserve rides we would have heard of it by now. This whole thing just reeks of petty jealousy. Vive la France!

Dear gowlerk, That reminds me of the 2011 Stanley Cup (hockey) riots in Vancouver. One of my co-workers was driving a #20 bus towards downtown when a bunch of rowdy young men tried to board his bus. When he asked where they were going, they replied "To the riot downtown." He slammed the door in their faces! Hah! Hah! A few minutes later, all buses were told to short-turn before they reached downtown.

I think this is a powerful point that need to be focused on this thread. I can think of several examples where failure modes are imaged by 'pulling slowly on the ground' that do not represent the real forces in a skydive. I think a good datapoint would be to video the openings on this rig and slow it down to study the mechanics of a real-world deployment.

Yep, that too. But if he is, in fact, the independent investigative rigger, then he still needs actual data — not videos and announcements. But one can’t also dismiss his experience out of hand — it’s just as wrong as accepting it out of hand. No one is completely free of secondary motivations, unfortunately. Wendy P.

Tô add to my previous post, there was a saying also where I worked: “In God we trust, everyone else, bring data.” And data really has to be replicatable — in other words, in only one person can torture a certain result, then the testing conditions might be questioned. Data means the testing conditions and results, in video/machine output format, not “I saw.” Wendy P.

another thing that seems to be missing here is the similarity between this thread and the one about the tandem rigs. started very similarly, with an accusation from a french jumper, then got argued about and denied for a while until it turned out they were right and got a service bulletin or whatever happened. maybe we should not be so quick to just dismiss things like this and wait and see if it happens again before trashing the folks finding this shit. maybe we need to take one or two of those national director spots that someone is asking to go away and pay someone to find flaws in equipment like the french are doing. it seems to be working for them so far.

InsureandGo do cover proper skydiving but you need their hazardous activity cover. https://www.insureandgo.com/travel-insurance/adventure-travel-insurance The personal accident or third party liability are excluded whilst skydiving, medical is covered.

That's because I don't have an agenda. I'm just commenting on what is going on and the arc it seems to be following.

Absolutely. I look forward to the day where it's just not that big a deal.

Absolutely. Ed Scott is right on this. From experience I can state affirmatively that being a DZO is no guarantee of excellence in any area. Beyond that there are plenty of DZO's or DZO spawn filling or ready to fill the ranks of RD's so I am certain the self serving will remain well represented at USPA Headquarters.

Hi Keith, If you want to read on why not, try this book: The Newhall Shooting - A Tactical Analysis by Mike Wood (revolverguy.com) Newhall incident - Wikipedia Jerry Baumchen

So, what does this show and what is worse? Riser covers that don't release till later in the reserve deployment sequence or riser covers that don't stay closed during high speed skydives? And why do so many irrelevant static tabletop faux problems seem to be popping up here, almost exclusively from France? This is a non issue.

Quoting Ed here: "I want to abolish the position of National Director. Effective boards number 10 to 12 members; USPA’s board is twice that size. Eliminating the eight National Director positions and retaining the 14 Regional Director positions would downsize the board. National Directors have none of the many responsibilities placed upon Regional Directors, and turnover among National Directors is low because they are largely reelected based on name recognition. But being a famous skydiver or well-known DZO doesn’t guarantee they contribute to the board (some do but many don’t). Downsizing to 14 would make the board more efficient and save over $22,000 in board travel expenses each year. " Seems like compelling reasons to me. It would be easy to do since the RDs have the vote.

I'll heard it eliminated gang banging in B.C. Not Like politicians in the US "gun laws" have been promised to eliminate "gun crimes". Currently you can get a "hit" done for $5000 CDN, $3940 USD in the lower mainland of B.C. I have to insist that the Mod's lock this thread. If more discussion of dissidents, radicals and "truckers" is allowed. We won't be able to mock US problems and the far right GOP types that give cause to those problems. What will happen to our high ground? Our Canadian disdain for everything American?