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It would be pretty rare for someone who does not already have an answer to that question to actually need a turn rig! Most people in your position end up having two rigs, one that they never use. Unless you are a very active instructor.

Hey Everyone, I'm Stephen, and I'm new to this forum. I hope, we'll have great discussions together .

Correct, hence the title of this thread. True hypocrisy is the bible loving GOP base who discount every allegation a woman makes. Then laughs about the locker room entitlements of male sexual privilege.

'Cuz they were black. Duh.

maybe talk to the people in the house instead of just cuffing them? it is fairly obvious, at least in this area, that homeless people don't usually look like realtors or even drive cars..

Back to memes and stuff like that...

Within LIVING memory in the USA: Blacks have been lynched. Blacks have been forcibly sterilized just for being black Blacks have been excluded from decent schools. Blacks have been targeted by drug laws that are clearly racially motivated. Blacks have been incarcerated for victimless "crimes" while far worse offenses committed by arians have received no more than a slap on the wrist. Blacks have been segregated from transportation, restaurants, restrooms, etc. Blacks have been redlined out of good housing. ETC, ETC. Trying to whitewash this and pretend it didn't happen just continues the bigotry and prejudice.

Just do it.

To all assorted parties. The sooner this thread looks like a tennis match, the sooner it will be locked and warnings issued. Wendy P.

The USA is already the most incarcerated nation on earth with the most punitive sentencing system of any non-dictatorship. But yeah, I'm totally sure that adding one more mandatory minimum to the mix will be just the ticket. It'll be totally productive without unfairly ruining anyone's life.

Brent, what you and Winsor are doing is "woke-washing" the issue. When you can't address that there is a problem, you start throwing meme's and video snippets at it. You and I served with many men of color. We worked together, slept together, ate together, played together and we had each other's asses. I can't help but wonder if you would be having this same conversation with them and if you did - do you think they'd have your ass when the time came. A new problem has arisen in the past few years and was highlighted with Ferguson. In the month following the shooting, 105 black men were shot by LE. Some of them justified, most were not. And, it was intensified with George Floyd. But, what it also did was begin a process of exploration into many areas of racism - including legal barriers. You know, when you step on a cat's tail, it screams loudly, but you can't blame the cat for the noise when you were responsible for causing the pain. I don't see what the problem is with taking a long introspective look into what's going on and seeing if we can't do a better job of turning barriers into bridges. Let's not give the issue a dismissive wave of the hand.

Well then, there is the source of your disconnect from reality right there with this completely false premise.

Ah, the old "not doing business with black people is just business sense, not racism". Self awareness isn't one of your strong points is it?

There are thousands of possible reasons for a reserve hesitation that are NOT the fault of the manufacturer. I'm not saying that it cannot possibly ever be the fault of the manufacturer, but I AM saying that you're jumping to conclusions awfully fast. And Aerodyne does indicate why an excessive long closing loop is bad: it doesn't compress the pilot chute fully and reduces its effectiveness significantly. If we as riggers in the world are to improve the safety of skydiving equipment everywhere, we need to keep an open mind AND be thorough, detailed and open in our analysis. Baseless accusations are worth less than the electricity used to transmit them. If you want me to take you seriously, show what that rig is exactly. What reserve is in it? What main is it in? What AAD is in it? What length is the closing loop? What size exactly is the rig? How was it packed? How was it tested? What exactly did you observe in the failures? Where did stuff catch that wasn't supposed to catch? It's like high school math, just writing down the final number is not enough, you've got to show the work done. Pretty please with sugar on top, show the f*ing details. Otherwise, I'm bringing the beer to Baksteen's popcorn party.

Ah yes, the poor disenfranchised white people, such a common theme in American history. Anyone else want to place bets on how accurate Windsor’s assertion turns out to be?

When I read that I have the same sort of reaction I would have to the statement "if you believe what lying Big Pharma says about . . ." or "sure, that's what brainwashed scientists . . . " Such unquestioned assumptions in the very first few words of the sentence - assumptions that will never be reconsidered because they support a beloved political ideology - means that intelligent conversation is no longer possible. Good luck with that.

Hi Ken, I would say, 'No.' The Vector has the reserve top flap going around & under the reserve internal flap. Whereas, the Icon ( and many other rigs ) has the reserve top flap 'tucked' into the bottom reserve flap. IMO each has a distinct design to 'hold' the reserve top flap. Jerry Baumchen

Nothing like a little drama to spice up a Friday morning. An AAD fire is not the same thing as a manual pin extraction. I don't know what your agenda is here, but baseless fear mongering is what you are doing.

Silly woman! What do women know about the military! You know much better than she does! Oh -- did you know that Trigirl is career military? Wendy P. To be fair, Westerly's assessment was what I was told my first few years of service (early 90s). We have evolved in the intervening years. edited to add: note the recent legal opinions allowing servicemembers to sue military medical facilities for malpractice.