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If you storm the fucking Capitol there have to be consequences. If you support that action or incite it, there HAVE to be consequences. You don't get to try and overthrow democracy and just go 'Why won't you be friends?? I just want to move on together! You're so MEAN! waaaahhhhhhh'. Jesus. I've never seen such a bunch of whiners. And they call those on the left 'snowflakes'.... I thought the Republican party was all for personal responsibility? Letting it go is what will make a bad situation worse. There's a reason the policy of every major government and police force is not to negotiate with terrorists or blackmailers - they think they can get away with it and so they do it again and step it up the next time. So yes. Find those guilty. Make an example of them within the law, no matter how high or low they are in the political structure. Slap them all down as hard and fast as fucking possible. This is what the American Government does with insurrectionists, is going to be the message. We'd better make sure it's a good one.

It's all bullshit. Bill, airdvr, all of them here somehow find it impossible to own up to the truth: they backed a mad man instead of America. Even when their candidate causes mayhem and insurrection in the nations capitol they stand shoulder to shoulder ignoring the facts. So, let's all call for more bygones and get us some unity and by the way have you looked at the budget lately? Why it's scandalous how the Democrats want to spend when we're broke. It's deplorable, too!

“Much more will become clear in coming days and weeks, but what we know now is enough. The President of the United States summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack. Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the President. The President could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. He did not. There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution.” Rep. Liz Cheney (R), Wyoming.

Another Game of Thrones meme? Guiliani, is that you? But that's EXACTLY what you decided when you wanted the second impeachment to not happen. Plus plenty of people here and on the left condemned the violence in the summer. No, you're outnumbered by at least 8 million, and that was before your numbers shrank due to Trump's coup antics. Yeah as much as we moved on back in 2016 right? Not a single Trump supporter said "fuck your feelings" back then right? No. Reap what you sow.

The guy in the mask is Jordan Klepper of The Daily Show:

That's some Grade-A primo bullshit right there. It's a helluva leap to compare the BLM protests over the summer to what happened at the Capital last week. Even after you make that stretch, to say that there was 'not a peep from the left' with respect to the vast minority of people who used those protests as an excuse to loot and vandalize is just a straight-up fucking lie. Every single major figure in the Democratic Party went out of their way to condemn the violence and looting. You say you're middle of the road, I guess you're talking about the road from Fox to OANN?

The problem isn't whether (or how) the virus will affect that person. It's how it will affect the person to whom they end up transmitting it. Most of the people who developed COVID after Sturgis weren't the ones who attended the rally, but their family members back home who were infected by those who didn't realize they brought it home with them. Holiday gatherings were discouraged not because people were sick, but because they could still bring the virus to their family members who may or may not get sick, but who would also at least pass it to others. Some of those people are going to die. Many more are going to get sick, which also usually means some degree of lasting health effects if they recover. This isn't about us protecting ourselves. It's about protecting each other.

Got me. I'll check with the Q analyzers and get back to you.

So as I understand it, planned US troop levels as of 2021-01-15 are: Iraq: 2,500 Afghanistan: 2,500 District of Columbia: 20,000

Nothing, absolutely nothing-real or imagined-that has previously occurred is in any way, shape or form equatable with the President of the United States fomenting insurrection against the United States by encouraging American citizens to storm the Capitol of the United States of America with the intent to create chaos and destruction so as to overturn the legitimate election of a new President of the United States. That, however, is exactly what you are saying and, frankly, it's your credibility that is being destroyed not ours. Please reconsider your position.

Being dead is fairly long term and totally disabling.

Billeisel clearly takes his moral stance from these guys: “We must work together to lower the temperature and unite the country,” said House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.). “We must come together and put this anger and division behind us,” said Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) Statements made less than a week after they brazenly attempted to disenfranchise millions of American citizens.

Yes, caused by Republicans. And when it is time for republicans to take responsibility people like you throw your hands up and take none. 8 Years of a stated goal that Republicans will oppose anything the Obama Administration put forward, followed by 4 years of support for the most divisive president in (recent?) history. But now unity is important to you. 4 Years ago it was "fuck your feelings", "snowflakes", "safe space", "fuck PC", etc etc. But now it is "won't you think of the feelings of the 45 who identify as....". Get the fuck outa here.

After being told to stop several times an asshole organizes a low pull contest at the DZ. He actually convinces a bunch of newbies that it's the right thing to do and he'll be right there low pulling, too. But he doesn't and a couple of kids go in. For the sake of the community and serenity at the DZ we just forget the whole thing because he won't be jumping at our DZ anymore?

Your mother is (or was) a wise woman Wendy P.

I just pushed my grandmother down the basement stairs. My parents want to call the police, but I don't think the family could come together if they do that.

YOU have supported the most divisive president in generations for the past four years. You have no moral authority left.

That was before the head of the executive branch of government tried to set a mob on the legislative branch (and his vice president) because they wouldn't do his bidding.

Oh for fucks sake, man, are you new here? Don't you read Brent? Don't defend, change the damn argument. Suck jakee in and 5 posts later you are home free. Bada Bing!

Maybe he is done tomorrow, but eventually we will have to deal with the sycophantic reality challenged electorate that are willing to kill or die for the waste of skin and oxygen that we've called a president for the last four years.

My mother came to watch me make my first jump. She said two things: Make sure your underwear is clean I want to be there if you die (I didn't). Actually, she was very proud that I jumped, and that I kept jumping. My father made a tandem when he was 85, but my mother never did (she died significantly younger, in her 60's). My dad showed the video of his tandem regularly to friends at the seniors' apartments where he lived -- if you're making a bucket list tandem, get the video. Wendy P.

A fascinatingly congruent description of Qanon. https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

"Just let them die" has not been part of our approach to society since . . . for as long as we have had societies. That's a good thing IMO. We protect the weaker members of our society (pregnant women, children, older relatives etc) because that's the right thing to do. Ordinarily I would say "you do you" and take any risks you want. But risks that you take with COVID-19 kill other people - so that doesn't apply right now. It's the difference between doing a demo into your own back yard and doing a demo into a packed arena. It's OK to kill yourself - not OK to kill a few bystanders due to your incompetence or neglect.

Everybody just “getting over this” is a bullshit argument that ignores the realities of the world and of COVID-19. How many elderly people do you think should die in the name of us being able to move on?

Just proof that the US military will accept recruits of lesser intelligence. An early news report about her said that after all her years in the Air Force (including active duty, Reserve, and Guard), the rank she had "most recently attained" was Senior Airman. That's an E-4, folks. You can make that within 2-3 years, depending on circumstances upon enlistment. That tells me that she was likely a SrA more than once. I won't speculate on why she left AD and went into the reserves, and later into the ANG, but usually going from AD to the other components makes it easier to get promoted. It would be polite to simply conclude that she was not what we'd consider a stellar airman.

'go in here' hehe I think it was '80, I went to the infamous Ghoulidge annual Christmas - New Year's boogie. Ended up doing my first demo. They were doing a jump into a nearby country club / golf course for their 'All America Days', or some such. They had someone with a red canopy, and someone with a white one. Mine just happened to be blue. Didn't have a whole lot of jumps at the time (started in '79), so they asked me how my accuracy was. 'Pretty good, I think', I told them, so they said they'd watch me on my next jump. Had a malfunction, cut away to a round reserve. By the time I landed and got back to the hangar, they had retrieved my canopy, straightened it out, had a rig for me to pack it into, and had a rigger arranged to pack my reserve. As soon as I was packed we climbed into a 182 and went to do the demo. Had a great time, they fed us a great lunch, and we flew and jumped back into the dz, where my rig was waiting for me, reserve repacked. What a place, what an era. And yes, of course I bought the beer...

I can hear Trump, Trump Junior, and Rudy going into Steve Urkel mode: "Didi I do thaaaaat?"

Like SethinMI, I have suffered two herniated discs in my lumbar spine. I tried to ignore pain in my left leg for three weeks, but when my left calf muscle cramped up solid, I discussed it with a doctor. Fortunately the doctor was a sports medicine specialist who diagnosed the problem as a pinched sciatic nerve. To this day, I have to do a regular series of sit-ups and stretches to keep my lumbar spine in correct alignment.