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Ya know, if they didn't use anemometers, the wind wouldn't blow so hard.

My analogy to this situation (where wording was surely deliberately chosen to be misleading): White House releases Pearl Harbour accomplishments Highlights include: - Ending World War II We have taken decisive action to understand, engage, and defeat the enemy. - .... etc

Whatever. Just use the cheap foamies. They work perfectly fine and they dont scam you into paying $300 to solve a problem that can be solved with 50 cents.

Or people who bitch about a website but keep posting there.

I predict Trump will win with 219 ECV.

If they fit (they fit me brilliantly -- but I know I'm lucky there). Wendy P.

Once again Jonathan Pie absolutely NAILS it. I honestly think Trump will win - probably with the worst popular vote numbers in history, but the electoral college works in his favor and his fanbase will absolutely be out and voting in those states. Can we stop talking about the 'lead' Biden has, please? Not only is is BULLSHIT, but it's actually detrimental to the people who are generally talking about it. I really, really hope I'm wrong, but I'm genuinely losing sleep over this.

Not to pile on too much (because I do think the OP is a perfectly valid point/question to raise), buuuuut.... my honest opinion is that most libertarians are just conservatives who want to smoke weed on occasion and don't give a shit who you marry. Every self-proclaimed libertarian I've ever met in person was a middle/upper class white dude of means. I've never met a poor one. It is extremely easy to be libertarian if you're already established in life.

What the O.P. doesn't realize is that his friends and family are already skydiving. He just needs to meet them.

I have been jumping 47 years and seldom mention it also. I am tired of the line "why would anyone want to jump out of a perfectly good airplane"

My take on this subject that every skydiver ever has thought about. Skydiving is expensive, time consuming, and involves a level of risk. Most people simply can not see the point. They would not get enough out of it to make it worthwhile. There are a lot of things that they do that do not interest you. Skydiving is a fringe activity. The herd will never follow us to the edge.

I started with a friend from work. We both got our A-licenses and packed student gear, and were instant dropzone fixtures. We talked a couple friends into making a first jump: one wouldn't get out of the plane, and the other was one-and-done, lol. Those are the *only* friends I've actually managed to talk into jumping, in almost 23 years. The moral of my story is, you don't need your whuffo friends anymore. You have us now! These days, I encourage people to try it IF they want to, but I'm done giving the hard sell. I don't want my friends to feel like I require them to skydive, and I spend energy nuturing my earthbound friendships just like I do my skydiving ones.

I've been jumping since 1981. I've NEVER tried to talk someone into jumping. Seems like a bad plan

Skydiving's not for everyone. After waiting 31 years, I joined a group of 16 planning our first jumps...13 backed out. Second try we gathered 14...11 backed out. (Common story.) So I paid for my entire AFF course up front and never looked back. Embrace your skydiving community and allow them to do the same for you. My greatest blessing entered my life through skydiving. Blue skies...fly fast, fly safe!

My younger brother and I took the first (static-line) jump course together 43 years ago. He made a couple of jumps, then wandered off. The following summer, my older brother made a S/L jump, but broke his ankle on landing. Both my older brother and I earned private pilot licenses, but then my brothers moved on to other earthly pass-times. I jumped for a total of 40 years and more than 6,600 jumps. I became a S/L instructor to support my weekend habit. Eventually I earned all the instructor and rigger ratings and worked full-time in the sport for 18 years.

1st year in sport, wanted to talk to everybody about it and expected most would love it. 2nd-4th year in sport, loved to talk about it but realized most would never do it. 5th-30th year in the sport, change the subject when someone brings it up, having heard every wuffo skydiving story and joke way too many times.

Gotta disagree with this. At 55, I've got a pretty long 'dead friends list'. Only 4 or 5 were jumpers. Only one died jumping.