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You cannot have a conversation without being condescending and belittling - you I fear that you might have a serious confidence problem. That is a trait very common with those with very low self esteem. I did. Because it was horrid. Why DON'T you have a problem with it? Spontaneously? No. They were told that. It took a little while, but the populace got on board with the media. That has actually happened. That is you projecting. On a side note - ""Then there could not be a better demonstration of your utter cluelessness on the motivations behind protests against entrenched institutional racism inside the organisations that we pay for and our elected governments have direct control over. "" When did you start paying taxes in the US? When did you start voting in the US?

Guy refuses to wear a mask, after happily masking the rape of many boys.

Hi olof, I have never had a gay person, male or female, judge my former wife & I for what we did 'consensually and in private.' It was simply our business and our business only. Jerry Baumchen

Hi Keith, I agree. However, there is a fair number of people in this country who do not; and are very afraid of this very thing. Jerry Baumchen

No Ron, we know exactly where you are 'coming from'. So far, just about every major act of violence during the BLM protests has led to the arrest of a white person. While a few of them were 'liberals', most were just like this guy. White supremacists trying to spark violence that would be blamed on the protesters. You fear armed black people. You fear Antifa. Yet those aren't the ones committing the violent acts.

Trump exposes both the weaknesses of American democracy, and its strengths. It’s hard to conceive of a greater test then the last four years.

Morning, Joe. When is the left going to realize that this is just another ramble of the week until there's something bright & shiny to twitter about next week. Look at what he wrote . . . (Absentee Voting - Good) Absentee Voting IS Mail-In voting. This too will pass. Quit worrying about him becoming a dictator - There's too many veterans who sleep with the constitution to allow that to happen.

They do. I don't get it.

Hookers & Blow. Ok. OK. Maybe some Blue Skies Brew.

This is a very interesting thread as it speaks to a range of canopies that I’m very interested in. Given the time that has passed and the new wings now on the market, I wonder if I can trigger more conversation. We now see the PD Sabre 3, pitched in a way that seems to narrow the gap between the “predecessor” Sabre 2 and the Katana. We’ve also seen the NZA Crossfire 3 and the Icarus World XFire in circulation for a few years. Finally the Fluid Wings Gangster has become a mainstream contender in this class, and the PD Katana still popular. So five canopies, with various pedigrees, all somewhat overlapping in the performance range. My experience with them is limited to a few dozen jumps on the Gangster & Katana and a couple of hundred on the XFire at between 1.4 - 1.6 and Sabre 2 at lower loadings (and I have a Crossfire 3 still in the bag from the factory but never even demoed), so I wouldn’t pitch my opinion as expert - or even necessarily particularly well informed, so I won’t share beyond the fact that I found the Gangster to have the most confidence inspiring range and flexibility, the XFire to be heavy on the fronts, wanting to load higher, do longer turns and have a shorter recovery arc, and the Katana to fly very nicely, light on the fronts, allow setup with more altitude thanks to the long recovery arc, but controls fall off sharply at lower speed. I anticipate that I’ll find the Crossfire 3 to feel like a good training platform as I Continue to build experience, but imagine that sooner or later I’ll want to return to the Gangster, given its long recovery arc, impressive range on rears, powerful flare and manageable fronts, as well as perfect openings and long spot capability.