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Last I knew, and I haven't been able to attend PIA meeting for 2 years, PIA decided NOT to try to recommend service life limits based on calendar time. We mostly all agreed that time was not an indication of airworthiness. And as a group of individual manufacturers they didn't want anyone else to tell them how to run their business or take positions that might impact their business. Can't.much blame them.

We pretty much already know that. Flu has killed between 12,000 and 61,000 per year in the USA for the last few years. Part of the goal is to get this new virus down to that level in the future. We probably will have to live with that as a minimum, but we don't know. By perspective, I guess you mean how does that compare with the current situation. This new virus is "novel" meaning none of us have any immunity to it right now. If we allow it to just have its way with us the estimates are that about 60% of the population will get sick. 330 million Americans equals 198 million illnesses. They think 20% of those will need hospital care, that is 39 million. Maybe 20% of those will need intensive care including ventilators is about 7.8 million. 20 % of those people will die, or 1.56 million. So to give the perspective you are looking for, how does 61,000 compare to 1.56 million? Of course all these numbers are estimates and not proven. They also do not say anything about the effect of the healthcare system being completely overwhelmed for an unknown period of time. Anyone else getting sick or injured and needing treatment will have to compete with the needs of all these victims. How would you feel as a nurse working in a New York hospital right now and seeing some of your co-workers dying as well as knowing that you are likely bringing the virus home to you family? Perspective? This is a magnitude of order more serious that the flu.

Spanish built ships have been sinking in those waters for 400 years. This one likely didn't contain gold. Especially after being fired on by 3" guns.

Still think he has a wife?

IMO the road to Hell should be paved WITH Evangelicals.

So in other words - they are just like us. From the Union of Concerned Scientists: Coronavirus Data Is Being Concealed by the Trump Administration ANITA DESIKAN, RESEARCH ANALYST | MARCH 12, 2020, 9:06 AM EDT This post is a part of a series on COVID-19 and the Coronavirus Pandemic Just yesterday, we learned that the White House has held dozens of meetings on coronavirus that were considered “classified,” meaning that federal health officials, including experts, were unable to enter the room. Without experts in the room, how can we expect our government to follow the best available science on this rapidly developing issue and enact science-based policies that protect our health and safety during this pandemic? When it comes to the novel coronavirus, it is imperative that the US government report robust scientific information about where the disease is spreading, how to control the spread of the disease, and who is most at risk of serious illness. People’s lives are literally on the line. And yet when dealing with the impact of COVID-19 – a disease that will likely reach thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands, of people in the US alone – government officials are sometimes choosing to suppress or distort health data for political purposes. Let’s take a look at the ways that the Trump administration is trying to hoodwink the public, by trying to convince us that the escalating number of cases of COVID-19 is simply not occurring. https://blog.ucsusa.org/anita-desikan/coronavirus-data-being-concealed-by-trump-administration

USPA is currently looking at the Instructor situation, in terms of recurrency, to decide what action, if any, should be taken. Some members feel the standards should be relaxed because of the current pandemic and they need some relief from the rules. Other members feel safety standards should never be relaxed, they are written in blood. Your opinions and views are always welcome. I would suggest letting your USPA Regional Director know how you feel, and your possible solution. If you are an instructor just becoming “uncurrent”, I would suggest contacting Safety and Training at USPA and find out if there is any relief for you on an individual basis. The email is: safety@USPA.org Paul Gholson. USPA Southern Regional Director

Bill Booth will come out and re-certify Tom Noonan who will then cover the IE's. (I don't usually use emoticons, but if I don't here no doubt someone will think I'm serious)

Several started to indicate that they were going to, but it looked like a game of chicken... If you do, I'll advertise mine have a longer life than yours. I _think_ (Councilman would know better) that its why some looked to PIA to set a standard... that way everyone is in it together, no one is the bad guy with inferior products and it comes from one authoritative source. And if they do, that helps going forward, but does little for the ones already out there with the FAA seemingly saying "once they're certified TSO, you can't add a life limit..." JW

Councilman24, Hope to get my senior back in May but more probably June. Anyway, I'm in the process of getting seat and chest to have 1) to work toward my added ratings and 2) maintain currency once I have them. Ultimately getting my master. That could develop in to being the only master in MS and pretty close to the only master on the gulf coast. We'll see. I've already done the written and during my 20 packs did rounds too.

Mark. Yes, I forgot that Precision does that. fca What you said. R rob Yes, the acid mesh issue is over and done with. The day to day problem is that pilots don't want to buy new rigs just because the mfg picks some service life figure out of thin air. 20 years? 19 years? 15 years? Why not 10 years? I could care less what the year figure is. What I do care about is the mfgs putting the burden on the rigger in the field to enforce it. A letter from the mfg regarding these "after Issued" service life declarations is all I am asking for. If these rigs are not airworthy - or have a presumption of lesser airworthiness based on age alone - not condition -, then say so. Put it in writing. Then the mfg is the one telling them they can't have them packed anymore, not me. At this point I am the "bad guy" telling them. Mfgs are apparently happy with being vague abut these older rigs.

Bankruptcies are on the horizon. Lots of them. Oil is now expected to drop under $20/barrel. Some petroleum stocks are down over 80%. yay. Auto manufacturing factories are shutting down. This could easily become a depression. At some point the government will have to stop funneling trillions in an effort to save the economy and big business. This isn't a time to celebrate.