Reserve extraction/inflation should it have worked?

[ChileRelleno 0]

Crossposted without poll from "General Skydiving Discussions"


OK, heres the deal.
The other day I got stupid and went low. I pulled at 1500' was open at 800', right as my main was completing deployment my Cypres fired and I was left with a RPC, bridle and Catapult RPC(secondary RPC) in tow. The reserve D-bag was not extracted, the reserve canopy did not deploy. The reserve D-bag was held in place by closed corners(pockets) formed by the reserve side flaps and material coming up from the main side flaps.
My forward speed under canopy was pretty good, full flight with a 10-15mph tailwind.
Witness stated that RPC's and bridle were at full extension but not alot of drag(like a kite tail).
Harness/container - Reflex
Main canopy - Hornet 210 @ 1.19.1
Reserve canopy - Tempo 210 @ 1.19.1
AAD - CYPRES expert

The main point of concern is that a canopy transfer has always been one of my emergency gameplans, for instance, in the event of a flying yet unlandable damaged main canopy ect...
My question far all of you out there (particularly you riggers and gear manufacturers) is should the reserve have deployed? Yes? No? and your reasons why.
I'm looking for all the input and information I can get on this incident.

ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414
Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

[Hooknswoop 19]

Full flight under a Hornet 210 @ 1.19:1 (tail wind is irrevelent to the drag on the reserve PC's) is not a lot of airspeed to drag out a Tempo 210.

The reserve PC size is the same for a PD-106R as it is for a PD-281R.

Containers are built so that the free-bag is held in the container snugely to prevent th possibility of an out-of-sequence deployment, which can cause a malfunction. I know of at least one instance where a reserve malfunctioned (on older gear) because the freebag left while the PC was in the burble.

Derek

[rigging65 0]

Didn't we do this one pretty much to death a few days ago?

"...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward.
For there you have been, and there you long to return..."

[Hooknswoop 19]

It was discussed:

Reserve PC launch & no feebag extraction

Derek

[rigging65 0]

Ok, thought I might have been experiencing a tryptophan induced brain freeze.

"...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward.
For there you have been, and there you long to return..."

[Samurai136 0]

6 of one a half dozen of the other.

I've seen a reserve deployed in roughly the same circumstances. In my opinion, if the timing/altitude was different in your main deployment you would have gotten a 2-out scenario. Apparently you had slowed your decent rate enough prevent the extraction of the free-bag from the container.

At least you know the Cypres works.

Ken

"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian
Ken

[ChileRelleno 0]

And I will continue to investigate this until I'm satisfied.

ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414
Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

[Hooknswoop 19]

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And I will continue to investigate this until I'm satisfied.

As you should.
Derek

[rigging65 0]

Good! I'm glad you're taking an interest in what goes on with your gear....!
Just be sure that "satisfied" doesn't mean "I'll keep looking until someone tells me what I want to hear". I know too many people who base their entire skydiving experience on this sort of misguided thinking...

Knowledge is good!

"...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward.
For there you have been, and there you long to return..."

[tinfoil 0]

I'm not all that surprised that your reserve didn't deploy either, but that's just my opinion, I'm not a rigger.
Something very similar to your incident happened at my DZ a few weeks ago, only difference was it was student gear with an FXC. Both DZO's are riggers, and neither of them seemed that concerned that the reserve wasn't deployed.

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