The111 1 #1 November 26, 2003 I recently went to a new DZ which I won't name. I loved everything about it except for one thing. They made you take your rig to the rigger and get it inspected and "tagged" before you can jump it. This means they put a little paper/sticky band (like the bracelets you get at clubs/concerts/bars) around your main lift web (I think that's what it's called). Anyway, it's next to impossible to places those things perfectly straight (I'm sure you've worn them before and when you rip them off you feel arm hairs getting pulled out too), which means you get a small part of the band sticking to your rig. I've read a few posts on here about adhesive not being good for your rig, and I agree, I wouldn't want some tacky gooey junk building up there and attracting dirt and whatnot. It might seem like I'm over-reacting (obviously the mating surfaces between rig and band are VERY small since only a small part of adhesive band overlaps itself), but after shelling out $5k+ for a new rig I don't think it's unreasonable to want to treat it how *I* want. What would you do? I love this DZ , and honestly I don't think anyone on the plane or boarding area was ever actively checking for the bands, so I'd be tempted to just not do it next time, but would hate to miss a load because of this. I thought about mentioning it to the DZO, but I want to make sure you guys don't think I'm over-reacting first.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #2 November 26, 2003 tell them to fuck off --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 November 27, 2003 Quotetell them to fuck off And I sincerely hope the DZ tells you the same. A DZ requires a gear check for your safety, the pilot's safety, and the safety of other jumpers, as well as protection themselves and the pilot from an FAA violation. Cooperation is nice. If you have that much concern over the way they "mark" your rig, ask them if you can put the band/tag/ziptie/whatever on yourself. Andy2: In this sport and most of life you can kill more flys with honey than salt. Or as we say here, "kill em' with kindness" Attitudes like yours make me want to find another load/spend the day at the beach/or occasionally fly off the handle in aggravation.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #4 November 27, 2003 QuoteWhat would you do? I love this DZ Get over it. Whatever DZ you're jumping at isn't the first to use this method, won't be the last to use this method, and isn't the only one to use this method. If the little bit of adhesive from the band posed a serious risk to your rig the practice would have stopped long ago. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #5 November 27, 2003 [QUOTE]Andy2: In this sport and most of life you can kill more flys with honey than salt. Or as we say here, "kill em' with kindness" [/QUOTE] Totally agree, I was being facetious. I'd definitely not care if the said rigger applied the tag to my rig. In fact I think thats a pretty common practice, I've seen that kind of thing on a few of rigs. If you're describing the same thing I was thinking of then its really a non issue because the actual adhesive of the tag doesnt get applied to your rig, it gets applied to itself in a loop. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #6 November 27, 2003 Quote Cooperation is nice. If you have that much concern over the way they "mark" your rig, ask them if you can put the band/tag/ziptie/whatever on yourself. You can also do some post-op correction if you have a pair of scissors. If I understand the design of the band correctly, the sticky-bad-overlapping part of the bracelet will be small and on the end / edges. Trimming the excess may have no effect on the official purpose of the bracelet. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJokergs 0 #7 November 27, 2003 get a rigger to sew a patch where they put this rigging tag, and then ask them to put it on that patch so it won't destroy your rig. i think you are overreacting, but its better to prevent this "problem" from the start. just like not steping on rock climbing ropes.Build a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #8 November 27, 2003 Quote...ask them if you can put the band/tag/ziptie/whatever on yourself. Just please don't put the ziptie around your main lift web and reserve handle like the genious at a boogie a couple of years ago. Its kinda hard to get the reserve handle out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisky 2 #9 November 27, 2003 Why don't they have the rigger sign off your gear being checked and safe on your waiver? That way they can look up your repack dates as well. A very good DZ i know only lets you jump once you 1. signed their waiver of liability 2. signed that you received a proper DZ briefing concerning rules, landing areas, pattern etc., naming the instructing DZ member. 3. got your gear checked and signed off by the rigger. That's safe and i have no shit sticking to my rig that wasn't intended to be there by the manufacturer whatsoever. I wouldn't really mind, but it's a loop, and loops like to snag something, even if its just paper... And this particular stuff they use at oncerts is designed not to come off unless cut, so i wouldn't want it there either.The mind is like a parachute - it only works once it's open. From the edge you just see more. ... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #10 November 27, 2003 A strip of paper is a lower risk than the plastic tags used at some boogies. Unless the tail of a plastic tag is trimmed carefully, it can leave a sharp edge which - has an insignificant chance of - fraying your harness and may cause a horrible death that will heap shame on you and all your ancestors for generations to come! Get over it dude. The paper is insignificant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #11 November 27, 2003 I would have to go outside to check, but I am pretty damn sure I have at least "gear checked OK" markings from at least five different dropzones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites