Stowing Slider-Before or after releasing brakes?

[cruzlite 0]

I am using standard (#8 I believe) risers with velcro brake stows and soft links. This is a new set-up for me. (soft links with stowable slider) Question is;
What is best sequence for stowing slider? Before or after releasing brakes & why? ( I would like to stow slider below toggles )
Thanks,
D

[DexterBase 1]

1. use risers to point in a safe direction,
2. Collapse the slider,
3. pull the slider down over the toggles being careful not to pull the toggle out prematurely,
4. tuck the slider behind your head,
5. grab the toggles and play.

[indyz 1]

No question in my mind, before releasing the brakes is best. Trying to get unstowed toggles through the slider grommets is a pain in the ass (I've done it a few times when I had brakes release during deployment). You risk having the toggle get hung up, which could lead to a cutaway.

But I think that the best argument for stowing my slider before releasing the toggles is that I can do it without taking my eyes off of other canopy traffic.

[PhreeZone 20]

Are you refering to just pulling the kill lines or actually pulling it behind your head?

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[DexterBase 1]

Oh yeah, the WHY. If you leave the toggles stowed, they will be anchored to the riser in a low profile. It will be pretty easy to pull the grommets over the toggles this way.

If you pop the toggles first, when you try to pull the slider down, you'll find that the toggles won't let it come down all the way since they're now laying flat against the grommets. You would now need to fish each toggle out of the grommets before you can fly the canopy.

This could eat up a lot of altitude and it's just not good to be concentrating on something else when you should be flying your canopy.

Another risk is that one of the toggles could get jammed in the slider material and the grommet, resulting in an uncontrollable canopy and probably resulting in a cutaway.

[cruzlite 0]

PhreeZone,
I assume you pull kill lines first, then stow slider. But I was referring to stowing slider. (Before or after brakes?)

D

[DexterBase 1]

Stow the slider, THEN unstow the brakes.

[Chrisky 2]

Collapse & Stow the slider, THEN unstow the brakes.
Would be quite hard to pull the collapse lines of the slider once it's behind your head...


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[Tonto 1]

Stow slider, then unstow brakes.

Unless you have a pre brake release, spinning mal etc. Then get control ASAP.

It's very similar to Birdman. Unzip arms 1st - unless something funky is going on, in which case you may want to chop the wings (Or unzip the arms a little quicker.)

Then stow slider, unstow brakes - and get undressed.

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[velo90 0]

Stow the slider then pop the brakes.

I have no problems stowing the slider with popped brakes on my PDF risers but .....
If the canopy has opened OK, I'd rather not be flying at full speed while I am stowing the slider.
I can always steer with the risers if necessary.

[sdctlc 0]

Deal with any malfunction if you have to

Make sure your in a good place relative to other canopy traffic

take off booties if your wearing them, but be aware about harness turns if your canopy is sensitive to that

Collapse & Stow the slider

THEN unstow the brakes

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[Hooknswoop 19]

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I am using standard (#8 I believe) risers with velcro brake stows and soft links.

If you have standard risers, not mini risers, pulling the slider down to the 3-rings will be very difficult, if not impossible. You need mini risers in order to pull the slider down to the 3-rings.

Derek

[indyz 1]

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If you have standard risers, not mini risers, pulling the slider down to the 3-rings will be very difficult, if not impossible. You need mini risers in order to pull the slider down to the 3-rings.

I disagree. Over 100 jumps pulling my slider down on standard risers with soft links, then about 20 on mini risers with soft links, and last weekend 11 on standard risers with hard links and bumpers. On both mini and standard risers with slinks there was no appreciable difference in difficulty, IMHO. The hard links slow things down a little bit, but it still isn't much more difficult than soft links.

[riggerrob 643]

After

[BadDog 0]

Before.

[cruzlite 0]

riggerrob,

Why ?

[riggerrob 643]

Oops!

BEFORE

I goofed, really meant to say: "look at canopy, look for other traffic, grab slider kill lines and pull it down behind my neck. Sometimes I give it an extra tug to "set" it in the slider catchers, then grab my toggles."

BEFORE

[rdesilets 0]

I was just reading some older posts and came across this one... and I have a question:

I have a sabre2 170 with slinks and a collapsible slider (came with the sabre2). I don't believe that I have the bumpers over my slinks (I will check but 99.9% sure I don't).

The whole collapsible slider thing is new to me as my previous main had an older style non collapsible slider:

When I collapse my slider (e.g pull the 2 draw strings that run down the center of the slider) I usually just leave it 'where it is' - sitting above my slinks - for the entire flight. Is this incorrect considering I don't have bumpers? It seems that the outward force of the lines keep it in place (e.g. it never rides down over the slinks) and I am hoping that I have not been doing it incorrectly and been at risk for a resulting problem.. hence the post to educate me..

I am just wondering if I am doing something that is incorrect and if I should install bumpers.. or if its incorrect to collapse the slider and leave it above the slinks all together.

[diablopilot 2]

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it never rides down over the slinks

Sounds like you don't have a problem.


PD offers a bumper for slinks if you want them. Easy to install.

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