VectorBoy 0 #26 June 13, 2007 I think this is it.... fabulous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #27 June 13, 2007 Hijackers!...... This isn't a gay blade thread. Its the M1 new leg wing thread. I was just curious because of the incredible glide ratio. Haven't seen one in person yet. Go bash the blade somewhere else. Yah Gay bashers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #28 June 13, 2007 Man your touchy....... Does this better fit the theam of the thread... Notice the improved leg inflation.... "He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #29 June 13, 2007 I only do that in the plane, not during flight.Its pretty pukered down there just look at the shadow in my avitar. Its an innie for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-tonysuits 0 #30 June 16, 2007 ok, it works, the arms burst open to reach up if you need to with normal arm zips for every day openings, the legs work good too, I dumped the velcro on the zipper pulls and now have 3 little toggle stows holding the tape to the leg, and a magnet at the bottom, much easier to go get, With the new body zip's going to the floor when i undo my legs after opening i just have to put my feet behind me and the booties blow off, its very odd walking to the plane with just my shoulders in the suit and easier to put the legs on in the plane. very good in these Florida summers.Life is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #31 June 16, 2007 care to post some more pictures??? Scott C. "He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #32 June 23, 2007 calling this thread new back fly leg doesnt really justify just what you guys have done to the mach 1 - its a complety new look and feel. there are around 9 changes on the design i got this weekend - every change really innovative - bigger wings that, which work due to a kind of airlock, new cut away, new zip from top of suit to bottom, new solid leading edges, bigger much more aggresive air inlets to name a few. i think the airlock design work especially well on this suit because of the size of the wings - they now always stay inflated which is an incredible feeling - very very sold wing, they simply will never flap in the wind - i cant wait to get a few more people in it to give some more feedback/opinions - i like all the design V1, V2 , the S range with BM ect but this is really something new - than and the fact that i pay for my suits are my two disclaimers will post pics after weekend before off to begium and germany ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #33 June 24, 2007 Quote i cant wait to get a few more people in it to give some more feedback/opinions - i like all the design V1, V2 , the S range with BM ect but this is really something new - than and the fact that i pay for my suits are my two disclaimers Well they can send demo suits to Headcorn or I'll have to go to Zflock 3.5 . Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-tonysuits 0 #34 June 24, 2007 yes, you'll have to come try one here, Jeff and I are going on the rd soon with all the demos, were travling all over the mid to east USA this summer showing folks the new suit, we have demos that can change size's and a tiny wing for 100 jump fleglings :-)Life is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #35 June 24, 2007 How will this affect delivery times for orders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-tonysuits 0 #36 June 24, 2007 I'm gonna make the orders were getting for about the next week or so before i go, then i'll be on the rd for only skyfest and summerfest, just 4 weeks, so it wont put orders back too much Jeff is gonna be on the rd for months, ask him if hes comming to a dz near you, you can PM him, under the name heffroLife is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #37 June 25, 2007 ok now that i have done quite a few more jumps on the suit. normal cruzing speed in neprtune was around 55mph - rolling shoulder and putting head down i managed 38mph. alot less strain than any of my old suits. my prediction is that any top end suit for skydiving will include the airlock technology. as far as base goes - i dont know, closing the tailwing down takes an extra second - changing body position into a sit at deployment could do the trick - not my area of expertise. has anyone base jumped the BLADE? - no inflight pictures yet ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #38 June 25, 2007 Quote rolling shoulder and putting head down I managed 38mph. I got 39 average in my Phantom on saturday.I wish there was a better way to easily compare performance over the internet than just fallrate.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #39 June 25, 2007 ya exactly -its such a rogue comparison, ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #40 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote rolling shoulder and putting head down I managed 38mph. I got 39 average in my Phantom on saturday.I wish there was a better way to easily compare performance over the internet than just fallrate. Why does it always turn to "mine is better then yours"? This thread is about the new backfly leg on the Tony Suit, not a performance comparison......... The new suit design looks great. Are people forgetting how fun wingsuits are to fly, over how much their performance they are getting over the other guys suit? Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #41 June 25, 2007 Quoteok now that i have done quite a few more jumps on the suit. normal cruzing speed in neprtune was around 55mph - rolling shoulder and putting head down i managed 38mph.... (snip snip snip) Pictures are nice and my first thought was "WOW that is a Big Wing" Is that much wing causing you any issues with the airlocks? What I mean is they are probably preventing colapsing the wing some for pull... I might be wrong with the airlocks but they are on both leg and arm wings with this suit variation, right? BIG wings seem to be something that could/will cause the suit to bite unless your not current, experienced or both... Not a suit for inexperienced pilots I am guessing... Scott"He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #42 June 25, 2007 Quote Are people forgetting how fun wingsuits are to fly, over how much their performance they are getting over the other guys suit? Uh, no. I just got a personal best fall rate (with bitchin' glide ratio and had massive fun doing it) and spotted an opportunity to brag about it a bit. Why have you gotta rain on my parade?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #43 June 25, 2007 Quote Why have you gotta rain on my parade? No raining on your parade my friend. I'm sure it was fun, but it seems like the, "my suit performs better then yours" issue is the " acid rain" of all the threads in this forum. Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #44 June 25, 2007 Quote Is that much wing causing you any issues with the airlocks? What I mean is they are probably preventing colapsing the wing some for pull... I might be wrong with the airlocks but they are on both leg and arm wings with this suit variation, right? My understanding of 'airlocks' in the wingsuit context is that they are used on the opposite inlet(back inlet when belly flying and vice versa). When flying on the belly, the airlock of the front inlet gets pushed out of the way by the air entering the inlet and the pressure keeps the back inlet closed. These should not cause any more problems than a similar wing inlet without an airlock and without the back inlet. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #45 June 25, 2007 Quote My understanding of 'airlocks' in the wingsuit context is that they are used on the opposite inlet(back inlet when belly flying and vice versa). When flying on the belly, the airlock of the front inlet gets pushed out of the way by the air entering the inlet and the pressure keeps the back inlet closed. Correct QuoteThese should not cause any more problems than a similar wing inlet without an airlock and without the back inlet. Kris. no.....as normaly, air would leak out of the wing as soon as you collaps the arms/legs. And the wing would deflate. In airlocked wings, the wings stay presurized much better. As they dont leak air through the vents. As soon as air enters the wing, they are rigid. And they dont deflate when you do weird rolls etc. There is truly a huge difference in flying a wingsuit with airlocked wings and without. Especialy when you're really throwing your wingsuit around the sky, its something that improves your flying a lot, as you always have inflated controll-surfaces. Both in turns, rolls and flips..JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #46 June 26, 2007 Why does it always turn to "mine is better then yours"? This thread is about the new backfly leg on the Tony Suit, not a performance comparison......... The new suit design looks great. Be safe Ed Actually its about the new leg wing that has no pictures, no pictures and its not a new wingsuit. Hold on while I post pictures of mary fucking popins in her new legwing design. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #47 June 26, 2007 Quote Actually its about the new leg wing that has no pictures, no pictures and its not a new wingsuit. Hold on while I post pictures of mary fucking popins in her new legwing design. Actually there is pics Glen. Put down your Mary Fucking Poppins Crack Pipe and look up a few posts. The suit looks like a new design, though he still calling it an M1. Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #48 June 26, 2007 like we have already agreed - neptune is a unrefined way of comparing performance - infact its crap. so no performance comparisons between - just saying the suit inflates better when shoulders are rolled due to the fact that the intakes are on top of the wing (where birdman wing deflectors usually are) which increases performance from regular cruzing speed of 55 - below 40. Airlocks are VERY different to jump with - its a double edge sword - it increases performance dramatically but at pull time you have to shut down the wing and press the air out the cells which takes an extra second. with the suit back inflating/ having airlocks i can imagine VERY VERY nasty flat spin scenarios if you are inexperienced or uncurrent. As for acrobatics - you have to change the way you fly to keep the always solid wings in check but its worth it and like any thing new in a suit you get used to it and then it becomes a piece of cake. i stand to be corrected but i both arm and tail have airlocks. oh and PS. the wingsuit (as every single one i have jumped) IS fun to fly ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #49 June 26, 2007 nice pics...wow thats a big wing. Whats your take on deploying with the 'new' wing...compared to the 'older' non airlocked version Is it a bigger schlep..?? How have you changed your deployment sequence/practice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #50 June 26, 2007 Quotenice pics...wow thats a big wing. Whats your take on deploying with the 'new' wing...compared to the 'older' non airlocked version Is it a bigger schlep..?? How have you changed your deployment sequence/practice? If you're used to deploying in full-flight. An airlocked wing does not change one single thing... If you're used to shutting down the wings. It takes a few seconds for the air to be pushed out, so it takes some extra attention..JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
