Do you deploy from full flight or ???

[Trae 1]

I was originally taught to shut down legs and arms and get vertical before deploying.

Lately I've taken to deploying from full flight as opposed to shutting down and getting vertical first. This seems so much simpler and less demanding.

Have any viewers had trouble with this sort of opening.?

These ff openings skid around a bit (yeehaa sideways openings ) the canopy doesn't pressurise as quickly with the slider tending to come down fairly slow.
After watching some wingsuiting base jumpers they ALL pitch from full flight for obvious reasons.

Is this the way to go or should I be sticking with the shutdown deployments?

[medusa 0]

You are not going to get killed, try it.
Please deploy high, do not use a high performance/high loaded canopie.

Be ready to clear some line twists

Medusa

Medusa

Get Killed or Die Trying!
Patent pending ATFK15456

[pbla4024 0]

I have less twists now when dumping in full flight than I had before when collapsing. Just throw it, man.

Fido

[droquette 0]

I agree.. I get less line twist in full flight as well.. plus i think its a lot more fun... but at the same time more taxing on my body... anybody else feel that?
blue skies...

HISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733

[fab777 0]

I used to pull from full flight with my low-perf crossbow WS, and then collapsing everything. Perfect openings each time with my Xfire 2. First times I jumped my new V1 ended up in long, sniveling openings with the same technique. So I assume that the airspeed works AGAINST the opening, by, maybe, keeping the PC inflated and creating higher resistance on the slider.

Right or wrong? Anybody?

Fabien
BASE#944

[Airowpoint 0]

fab777,
I think the V1 was actually giving you lower airspeeds, so a longer snivel should be appropriate.

The skyfliers and V1 have air going between the leg wing and back deflector. I assumed that was to reduce the burble/vacuum above the leg wing so you could deploy in full flight.

Tristan
Will you answer "NO" to my next question?

[Gabo 0]

Hello
I deploy from Full flight when I jump my base canopies, I collapse the arms before deploying when I use my VX,
I noticed too that deploying from full flight is harder on your body like someone else said.


Cheers
Gabo

[KrisFlyZ 0]

Never really tried the collapse wings technique...after getting spanked consistently for 7-8 jumps a day, adopted the sit up on deployment technique like SM1 posted somewhere. That took the kick out of the openings.

Now, I pitch in full flight. It seems to work fine...but I have been jumping the Prodigy a lot and the phantom a little...not many V1 jumps.

Kris.

[LouDiamond 1]

Quote

Have any viewers had trouble with this sort of opening.?

Jari has some video footage of a guy deploying from full flight that is quite shocking. The chute opens so quickly you can see the guys protrack fly off his helmet and continue in the direction of flight. The jumper gets jerked backwards so hard he almost falls back into his lines.

Some people have no issues with it but as it was mentioned, the openings can be quite hard compared to the normal wing suit openings.

"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required"
Some people dream about flying, I live my dream
SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING

[The111 1]

Without echoing a lot of what other people have already said, I'll add the following.

Obviously, a higher overall airspeed equals a fast opening.

However, I have found that the most important thing in how "hard" an opening feels is the orientation of your body relative to the direction in which the parachute is opening. Example: headdown openings hurt (airspeed notwithstanding, it hurts to get "whipped" around 180 degrees). If you dump in full flight, the "situp" technique is definitely a plus. If you can get your feet pointed in the direction of the snivel, before the slider slams down, the opening will happen "above your head" and will feel significantly better than if it is happening above your back or behind your feet.

I was reviewing a bunch of footage from the other flockers @ Z-Flock who sent me tapes to use in the event video. I was amazed how many of those guys see their legwing when they deploy. That, to me, signifies "whip". I can dump in full flight without getting "whipped". I will not see my legwing at all, those it will be a brisk opening. But it will not bend my back or neck in ways I don't want. It will simply compress them, inline with my spine. I always wear a camera, and I never see my own legwing in the video (a function of both body position on opening, and where I aim my head).

For those of you who can't understand the "situp" concept, a very similar thing (the idea of which I did not come up with on my own, I'll have to give credit to Omar) is just balling up (pulling your knees to your chest) during the snivel. Same effect. Even if you do get whipped, having your legs cannonballed reduces the lever arm by bringing a lot of your mass closer to center, thereby reducing the severity of the whip.

Note that I do this once I am already in the snivel. I've read about the "hole" and how you can fall out of a rig if you get a premature during a sitfly. I'd imagine this is a potential concern with this technique, but I've never felt my rig slipping the way I do it.

Personally, I don't dump from quite full flight, but it's pretty close. I stall the suit for a split second to kill some forward speed, dump, and then collapse everything to cannonball/situp during the snivel. Once I am snivelling I keep knees/feet together but straighten legs out/down to try to keep harness straight. A lot of what I do is to reduce whip on my neck for the cameras I wear.

www.WingsuitPhotos.com

[KrisFlyZ 0]

Good point on the stall the suit for a split sec.

In my experience/opinion...Going a bit head high at pull time has a couple of advantages.

1) The speed is reduced and so is the amount you swing under the canopy after opening.

2) On the bigger suits...BOC deployment + headlow deployment angle increases the chances of wing covering the PC handle.

Kris.