KrisFlyZ 0 #26 April 12, 2006 Don't have internet at home. so can't browse as much...Thanks Macca. I was thinking of possibly...a request from PF to not distribute pictures because they want to finalize details, etc. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #27 April 12, 2006 In the case that Ted isn't sworn to secrecy, it would be nice if he could share his experience and comparison of the special Vamp and his stock Vamp, even if all he got to do is flocking jumps with it. "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #28 April 12, 2006 links to pics dont work...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor 0 #29 April 13, 2006 Quote In the case that Ted isn't sworn to secrecy It was really more "banned to secrecy" , but I'm back and makin poasts 2 teh intarnets again, d00derz!!1! OK, I'm not sure how close the V2 I flew was to the production model, but I got the impression that it will be pretty close. There was actually 2 V2's at FnD, the one I flew was Robi's, and James had his there too. Sam (980) flew James'. The only noticable difference between the two was the materials. Robi's had orange parapack on the arms (which I liked better than the dacron), some kind of super high-tech, super spendy material for the body, and no dacron leg piece. Arm wing planform was visually the same as the V1, but the wing profile and 3D shape was tuned to work better. 'Intake' style air inlets on the arms, and fewer arm wing ribs. The leg wing was a bit wider, slightly shorter (which was nice), and straighter along the bottom, with 3 mylar inserts instead of 2. The leg air inlet was a refined version of the V1 inlet. The butt deflector was reworked, with two ribs instead of one, and (maybe) a little bigger. I only got 6 jumps on the suit. The difference while flocking isn't huge. I felt like I had a little more arm wing power for floating, but that may just have been variations in the formation. The suit isn't really noticably different until you punch out. It seemed easier to really max this thing out. The arms really seemed easier to get a lot of lift out of than my V1. When I nose my V1 over and tuck my chin, it seems to want to dive some, where this thing just seemed to want to haul ass. Robi said he was expecting 10-15% more glide from it than the V1, which I can easily believe. That should put the best pilots at 3.0+ GR. Sick. Overall, lots of small refinements adding up to make a big difference. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #30 April 13, 2006 QuoteThe leg wing was a bit wider, slightly shorter (which was nice)... What made it nice? Easier to get around in? Less tail wing flutter?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base689 0 #31 April 13, 2006 One thing I know for sure is that my friend #658 has placed an order on Phoenix for a V2. When #658 will get his new V2, that's another story Stay safe out there Blue Skies and Soft Walls BASE #689 - base_689AT_NO_123_SPAMyahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor 0 #32 April 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe leg wing was a bit wider, slightly shorter (which was nice)... What made it nice? Easier to get around in? Less tail wing flutter? It was easier to walk around and get into the plane with it zipped up. Less of a tendency to step in it while climbing the steps. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #33 April 13, 2006 Quote It was easier to walk around and get into the plane with it zipped up. Less of a tendency to step in it while climbing the steps. now that is very important Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #34 April 13, 2006 QuoteI think the caption was supposed to say "Special Ted flying a Vampire". He IS "special" isn't he?? Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #35 April 13, 2006 QuoteQuote Less tail wing flutter? Is there a tendency for the tail to flutter on the V-1s? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #36 April 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Less tail wing flutter? Is there a tendency for the tail to flutter on the V-1s? I think it's skill dependent. With less skilled flyers (like me) yes. With more skilled flyers, I don't think so. A shorter tail wing may make the higher ends of V-2 performance more accessible than the higher ends of V-1 performance.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Professor 0 #37 April 14, 2006 Quote I think it's skill dependent. With less skilled flyers (like me) yes. With more skilled flyers, I don't think so. A shorter tail wing may make the higher ends of V-2 performance more accessible than the higher ends of V-1 performance. It's not much shorter, maybe an inch. Also, it's a little wider, which can't help with flapping. How many V1 jumps have you done? If you just got the suit, you may find that the flapping goes away as you start to learn it more. The leg wing of the V2 really felt pretty similar to the V1, the arm wings were what really seemed to be pulling harder. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #38 April 14, 2006 Quote The arms really seemed easier to get a lot of lift out of than my V1..... The arm wings were what really seemed to be pulling harder. So your saying the V2 caused alot more fatigue on the arms during long flights then the V1, but more lift? Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Professor 0 #39 April 14, 2006 I didn't put any long flights on it, just break offs after flocks. I didn't feel like the arm pressure was any higher, but the front end in general seemed to be generating more lift. I know that sounds contradictary. Also, it seemed to be easier to get into that 'really maxed flight' state than my V1. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites unclecharlie95 3 #40 April 15, 2006 Sorry for the delay, been unplugged for the last week. Don't have many photos of the suit yet but here is one with sub-optimal arm position (flocking). Some features: Shoulder inlets Improved back deflector design Wider leg wing Refined arm wing design and more I put 40 jumps on the suit in the last week and loving it. Long flights, J ps. Thanks to Jimmy Freeman for taking that shotBASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Basjkall 0 #41 April 15, 2006 Looks nice.. A bit smoother leg wing would also help I think. If one could continue the deflector thing all the way down to the ankles , creating a smoother surface on the upper side of the wing, and sharpen the end of the wing, maybe it would do even more to the suit? Like on the Phantom, but sharper ending. The smoothest leg wing in my opinion is on the S-fly, sharp ending of the wing, and really smooth on top. But still, would love to try one of then some day.. Peace, Andreras Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkM 0 #42 April 15, 2006 Quote Don't have many photos of the suit yet but here is one with sub-optimal arm position (flocking). LOL, BASE flocking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #43 April 15, 2006 QuoteLOL, BASE flocking? What about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #44 April 17, 2006 QuoteWhat about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? When UncleCharlie and I did it at Bridge Day this past year, I logged it as a BASE jump (I was the passenger). I might just be cheating to try to push up my BASE numbers, though. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites voodew1 0 #45 May 17, 2006 Info on the Vampire V2 http://phoenix-fly.com/articles%20stvari/Vampire2_pressrelease.pdf Check it out if interested and feel free to order now since mine is infront of yours The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites islandboyflyrz 0 #46 May 18, 2006 wat sux is that i got my v1 a month ago but fuk it i'm ordering a v2 .... gotta have my toys !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hannes1 0 #47 May 18, 2006 don´t worry, you will love the V2. i was lucky to do 2 jumps on a prototype and since then i don´t want something else. in fact V1 is supertoy ..but ...robi wipp your sewing girls! take care hannes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yuri_base 1 #48 May 20, 2006 I see this thread is not very active... is everybody quietly ordering their V-2's hoping to secure their slot in the production queue and get the suit sooner??? I know I do. Tsssss... let's keep quiet. YuriAndroid+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gadget 0 #49 May 20, 2006 I'm way ahead of you (i hope)If people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes??? My logbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites droquette 0 #50 May 23, 2006 I just here sitting and praying for my suit to arrive sooner or later... I know I still have a month or 2 to go.. and i just ripped my only suit 2 weeks ago... so now i have to fly with half my ass hanging out... blue skies fat calouds .. cant wait for my V2 DanHISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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TomAiello 26 #36 April 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Less tail wing flutter? Is there a tendency for the tail to flutter on the V-1s? I think it's skill dependent. With less skilled flyers (like me) yes. With more skilled flyers, I don't think so. A shorter tail wing may make the higher ends of V-2 performance more accessible than the higher ends of V-1 performance.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Professor 0 #37 April 14, 2006 Quote I think it's skill dependent. With less skilled flyers (like me) yes. With more skilled flyers, I don't think so. A shorter tail wing may make the higher ends of V-2 performance more accessible than the higher ends of V-1 performance. It's not much shorter, maybe an inch. Also, it's a little wider, which can't help with flapping. How many V1 jumps have you done? If you just got the suit, you may find that the flapping goes away as you start to learn it more. The leg wing of the V2 really felt pretty similar to the V1, the arm wings were what really seemed to be pulling harder. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #38 April 14, 2006 Quote The arms really seemed easier to get a lot of lift out of than my V1..... The arm wings were what really seemed to be pulling harder. So your saying the V2 caused alot more fatigue on the arms during long flights then the V1, but more lift? Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Professor 0 #39 April 14, 2006 I didn't put any long flights on it, just break offs after flocks. I didn't feel like the arm pressure was any higher, but the front end in general seemed to be generating more lift. I know that sounds contradictary. Also, it seemed to be easier to get into that 'really maxed flight' state than my V1. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites unclecharlie95 3 #40 April 15, 2006 Sorry for the delay, been unplugged for the last week. Don't have many photos of the suit yet but here is one with sub-optimal arm position (flocking). Some features: Shoulder inlets Improved back deflector design Wider leg wing Refined arm wing design and more I put 40 jumps on the suit in the last week and loving it. Long flights, J ps. Thanks to Jimmy Freeman for taking that shotBASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Basjkall 0 #41 April 15, 2006 Looks nice.. A bit smoother leg wing would also help I think. If one could continue the deflector thing all the way down to the ankles , creating a smoother surface on the upper side of the wing, and sharpen the end of the wing, maybe it would do even more to the suit? Like on the Phantom, but sharper ending. The smoothest leg wing in my opinion is on the S-fly, sharp ending of the wing, and really smooth on top. But still, would love to try one of then some day.. Peace, Andreras Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkM 0 #42 April 15, 2006 Quote Don't have many photos of the suit yet but here is one with sub-optimal arm position (flocking). LOL, BASE flocking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #43 April 15, 2006 QuoteLOL, BASE flocking? What about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #44 April 17, 2006 QuoteWhat about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? When UncleCharlie and I did it at Bridge Day this past year, I logged it as a BASE jump (I was the passenger). I might just be cheating to try to push up my BASE numbers, though. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites voodew1 0 #45 May 17, 2006 Info on the Vampire V2 http://phoenix-fly.com/articles%20stvari/Vampire2_pressrelease.pdf Check it out if interested and feel free to order now since mine is infront of yours The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites islandboyflyrz 0 #46 May 18, 2006 wat sux is that i got my v1 a month ago but fuk it i'm ordering a v2 .... gotta have my toys !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hannes1 0 #47 May 18, 2006 don´t worry, you will love the V2. i was lucky to do 2 jumps on a prototype and since then i don´t want something else. in fact V1 is supertoy ..but ...robi wipp your sewing girls! take care hannes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yuri_base 1 #48 May 20, 2006 I see this thread is not very active... is everybody quietly ordering their V-2's hoping to secure their slot in the production queue and get the suit sooner??? I know I do. Tsssss... let's keep quiet. YuriAndroid+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gadget 0 #49 May 20, 2006 I'm way ahead of you (i hope)If people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes??? 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Professor 0 #37 April 14, 2006 Quote I think it's skill dependent. With less skilled flyers (like me) yes. With more skilled flyers, I don't think so. A shorter tail wing may make the higher ends of V-2 performance more accessible than the higher ends of V-1 performance. It's not much shorter, maybe an inch. Also, it's a little wider, which can't help with flapping. How many V1 jumps have you done? If you just got the suit, you may find that the flapping goes away as you start to learn it more. The leg wing of the V2 really felt pretty similar to the V1, the arm wings were what really seemed to be pulling harder. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #38 April 14, 2006 Quote The arms really seemed easier to get a lot of lift out of than my V1..... The arm wings were what really seemed to be pulling harder. So your saying the V2 caused alot more fatigue on the arms during long flights then the V1, but more lift? Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor 0 #39 April 14, 2006 I didn't put any long flights on it, just break offs after flocks. I didn't feel like the arm pressure was any higher, but the front end in general seemed to be generating more lift. I know that sounds contradictary. Also, it seemed to be easier to get into that 'really maxed flight' state than my V1. Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #40 April 15, 2006 Sorry for the delay, been unplugged for the last week. Don't have many photos of the suit yet but here is one with sub-optimal arm position (flocking). Some features: Shoulder inlets Improved back deflector design Wider leg wing Refined arm wing design and more I put 40 jumps on the suit in the last week and loving it. Long flights, J ps. Thanks to Jimmy Freeman for taking that shotBASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Basjkall 0 #41 April 15, 2006 Looks nice.. A bit smoother leg wing would also help I think. If one could continue the deflector thing all the way down to the ankles , creating a smoother surface on the upper side of the wing, and sharpen the end of the wing, maybe it would do even more to the suit? Like on the Phantom, but sharper ending. The smoothest leg wing in my opinion is on the S-fly, sharp ending of the wing, and really smooth on top. But still, would love to try one of then some day.. Peace, Andreras Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #42 April 15, 2006 Quote Don't have many photos of the suit yet but here is one with sub-optimal arm position (flocking). LOL, BASE flocking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #43 April 15, 2006 QuoteLOL, BASE flocking? What about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #44 April 17, 2006 QuoteWhat about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? When UncleCharlie and I did it at Bridge Day this past year, I logged it as a BASE jump (I was the passenger). I might just be cheating to try to push up my BASE numbers, though. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites voodew1 0 #45 May 17, 2006 Info on the Vampire V2 http://phoenix-fly.com/articles%20stvari/Vampire2_pressrelease.pdf Check it out if interested and feel free to order now since mine is infront of yours The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites islandboyflyrz 0 #46 May 18, 2006 wat sux is that i got my v1 a month ago but fuk it i'm ordering a v2 .... gotta have my toys !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hannes1 0 #47 May 18, 2006 don´t worry, you will love the V2. i was lucky to do 2 jumps on a prototype and since then i don´t want something else. in fact V1 is supertoy ..but ...robi wipp your sewing girls! take care hannes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yuri_base 1 #48 May 20, 2006 I see this thread is not very active... is everybody quietly ordering their V-2's hoping to secure their slot in the production queue and get the suit sooner??? I know I do. Tsssss... let's keep quiet. YuriAndroid+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gadget 0 #49 May 20, 2006 I'm way ahead of you (i hope)If people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes??? My logbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites droquette 0 #50 May 23, 2006 I just here sitting and praying for my suit to arrive sooner or later... I know I still have a month or 2 to go.. and i just ripped my only suit 2 weeks ago... so now i have to fly with half my ass hanging out... blue skies fat calouds .. cant wait for my V2 DanHISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
The111 1 #43 April 15, 2006 QuoteLOL, BASE flocking? What about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #44 April 17, 2006 QuoteWhat about two people make a rodeo exit off a fixed object. During the flight the passenger dismounts and deploys his/her own parachute. Would that technically be a skydive for the passenger? When UncleCharlie and I did it at Bridge Day this past year, I logged it as a BASE jump (I was the passenger). I might just be cheating to try to push up my BASE numbers, though. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #45 May 17, 2006 Info on the Vampire V2 http://phoenix-fly.com/articles%20stvari/Vampire2_pressrelease.pdf Check it out if interested and feel free to order now since mine is infront of yours The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
islandboyflyrz 0 #46 May 18, 2006 wat sux is that i got my v1 a month ago but fuk it i'm ordering a v2 .... gotta have my toys !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hannes1 0 #47 May 18, 2006 don´t worry, you will love the V2. i was lucky to do 2 jumps on a prototype and since then i don´t want something else. in fact V1 is supertoy ..but ...robi wipp your sewing girls! take care hannes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yuri_base 1 #48 May 20, 2006 I see this thread is not very active... is everybody quietly ordering their V-2's hoping to secure their slot in the production queue and get the suit sooner??? I know I do. Tsssss... let's keep quiet. YuriAndroid+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadget 0 #49 May 20, 2006 I'm way ahead of you (i hope)If people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes??? My logbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
droquette 0 #50 May 23, 2006 I just here sitting and praying for my suit to arrive sooner or later... I know I still have a month or 2 to go.. and i just ripped my only suit 2 weeks ago... so now i have to fly with half my ass hanging out... blue skies fat calouds .. cant wait for my V2 DanHISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
