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IMO, skydiving is one of the wierdest sports with the requirements. They require X to get to Y. Like freefall time for your D License...but what happens to the CRW people?

I'm joining a CRW team and will most likely have the 200 jumps by June no problem...but will have around 100 CRW jumps (got a bunch now). I'll still be doing a ton of RW and some FF, but how does this take into account? What about people just doing hop and pops to get the jump numbers. I know the instructor usually evaluates the student in the FFC, but it sounds like people are saying other skills need to be met (which can happen for some around jump 100...an extreme...and others never).

What's the thinking from the BMI/PFI's?

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Well, as a BMI/PFI, I see nothing requiring FF time in the 1st flight manual. Even though I have 750 CRW dives, and 750 Tandems and the bulk of my dives are from 9500ft and Cessna's, I'm still ahead in freefall time in the USPA 1000/12 hr Gold, 2000/24 hr Diamond, 3000/36 hr Double diamond etc scale. I'm currently at 59hrs for 4750 dives - so you have to be doing hardly any freefall time at all for it to be an issue.

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I'm still ahead in freefall time in the USPA 1000/12 hr Gold

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so you have to be doing hardly any freefall time at all for it to be an issue.



Very true... I will have 12 hours before I hit 550 jumps. B|

To the other poster - 200 jumps is a MINIMUM. Every wingsuit student is still expected to exercise intelligence, caution, and good judgment getting into the sport, and if you have 200 hop n' pops and can't even track without going unstable, then you obviously are not ready for a wingsuit yet, and you know it.

EDIT: (the "you" in the sentence above is a generic you, not directed at the poster)
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yeah...sure that wasn't directed towards me ;)

This is the first time I've seen someone ask/respond to this question, which I've always wondered about. Pretty much everything just says "Have 250 jumps in 18 months or 500 jumps", but doesn't address skill level or types of jumps they have done.

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Pretty much everything just says "Have 250 jumps in 18 months or 500 jumps", but doesn't address skill level or types of jumps they have done.



Because again, those are the MINIMUM requirements, and are stated as such. When you approach a good instructor asking to fly, he will get more information from you about your skills and comfort level.
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Pretty much everything just says "Have 250 jumps in 18 months or 500 jumps", but doesn't address skill level or types of jumps they have done



Because the jump requirements are about general experience, and not set 'achievements'.
A lot of people want to hear stuff like 'do 20 jumps in tracking' '5 jumps in the nude' '3 jumps pulling your pilot with your teeth' and you'll be ready for a wingsuit.

But it's just a general all round experience, in all dicipline that wil help you.
People with a lot of FS skills will take to wingsuit formation jumping a lot easer when it comes flying relative to people. Good trackers wil rock when it comes to freefall times. Good freeflyers wil have no problems playing in any orientation, and learn backflying etc. much faster...and CREW people wil also have a lot of stuff on 'normal' freefallers when it comes to approaching a flying formation and how to ease into their slot without flying someone else out of the sky..

There is no 'set' do x and y requirement..
You just need to be at ease when jumping, and preferably be a bit all-round, and know what to do when sh*t goes bad without going into a panic.

Just enjoy skydiving.....that's all you need to do..
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People with a lot of FS skills will take to wingsuit formation jumping a lot easer when it comes flying relative to people. Good trackers wil rock when it comes to freefall times. Good freeflyers wil have no problems playing in any orientation, and learn backflying etc. much faster...and CREW people wil also have a lot of stuff on 'normal' freefallers when it comes to approaching a flying formation and how to ease into their slot without flying someone else out of the sky..



Jarno just about sums it up right here!

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I have actually seen both extremes with some very, very-experienced FS jumpers. Some nail it right out the door and come right up to you and dock within ten seconds. One in particular just never got out of the boxman no matter how much in-air coaching I gave; he fell like a rock on the first dive and didn't do much better on his second dive. Whatever; he still had fun.

Chuck

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