LilZilla 2 #1 October 25, 2005 Hey, whatup everyone. I have been wanting to get into a birdman suit since I first heard about it. Right now I'm sitting at about 170 jumps and plan of knocking out at least 30 by Dec. I've been told that you need 200 to begin flying but have also been told that they all need to be within 18 months. It'll be 3 and a half years for me. If I were to deminstrate my ability prior to a birdman jump with an instructor, would that be or problem? Or is it a USPA rule that the number of jumps need to be made within the 18 month time period? Also, what is the performance of those suits on average in terms of vertical decent and horizontal speed? Thanks and take care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #2 October 25, 2005 QuoteIf I were to deminstrate my ability prior to a birdman jump with an instructor, would that be or problem? If you have 200 jumps and can demonstrate your proficiency to the instructor you shouldn't have a problem with them giving you the first flight course."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #3 October 25, 2005 QuoteOr is it a USPA rule that the number of jumps need to be made within the 18 month time period? USPA has no rules regarding WS, only recommendations. You will probably have no problem finding an instructor, however currency is more important than total jump numbers. 200 jumps in 3.5 years could mean several things. For example, if you did 150 jumps and then took 2 years off the sport, you might not be current enough to be heads-up in a wingsuit flight. But provided your jumps were spaced out evenly, or even better, weighted toward the end of the 3 year period, you will be more current and overall more ready for WS. Find a BMI and talk to him now. On your next 30 jumps, practice some things that he can tell you such as wingsuit style exits and deployments, and tracking. I see you're in FL - send me a PM if you can't find anybody closer to you.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #4 October 25, 2005 QuoteFind a BMI and talk to him now. or ask a PFI or you can ask any experienced wingsuit pilot edited for DOH factor.BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilZilla 2 #5 October 25, 2005 Will do. Thanks for the offer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #6 October 25, 2005 Quoteor a PFI or an experienced wingsuit pilot Somehow I think that just didn't come out right... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #7 October 25, 2005 Ha, even I didn't catch that! Signed, L.O.T.S. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilZilla 2 #8 October 27, 2005 What are these suits capable of? Whats the slowest you can fall with these suits and about how fast do you move forward? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #9 October 27, 2005 QuoteWhat are these suits capable of? Whats the slowest you can fall with these suits and about how fast do you move forward?You can fall 12mph and move forwards at over 300mph. It's awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #10 October 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhat are these suits capable of? Whats the slowest you can fall with these suits and about how fast do you move forward?You can fall 12mph and move forwards at over 300mph. It's awesome. You'll need the Jet Engines for that one mate Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #11 October 27, 2005 QuoteYou'll need the Jet Engines for that one mate Sssshhhh!!! Don't tell him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #12 October 27, 2005 Not so sure jets are needed. I made a flight last year, with an 85 knott tailwind, best calculation from aircraft pilot monitoring distance and time guessed a ground speed around 250-260 mph. This in a SI, built for forward speed. Today's gps flyers probably can verify close to the 300 mph mark, given the upper wind conditions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #13 October 28, 2005 QuoteNot so sure jets are needed. I made a flight last year, with an 85 knott tailwind, best calculation from aircraft pilot monitoring distance and time guessed a ground speed around 250-260 mph. This in a SI, built for forward speed. Today's gps flyers probably can verify close to the 300 mph mark, given the upper wind conditions. I don't think you can count windspeed but that is just my way of looking at things. As for flying aroung 160 MPH 'Calculated' average after removing the wind factor. I have my own thoughts on that. We can discuss those in a seperate thread of PM if you like. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #14 October 28, 2005 QuoteAs for flying aroung 160 MPH 'Calculated' average If you do this without also trying to fly 35mph avg it should be possible? People can do 200 mph ground-speed in a normal tracking (at a 200 mph fallrate:P)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #15 October 28, 2005 This is true... I was chasing a giant student in my S3 and hit close to 200mph fallrate, I wonder what my forward speed was?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #16 October 28, 2005 Correction, you can fall 7mph and go 500mph forwards. It's awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #17 October 28, 2005 Please read what I said I am saying that an average of 160 mph forward speed in nil wind conditions, whatever the downward speed is, is not easy. He said 85 knot(97.9 mph) tailwind and an average of 260 MPH. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilZilla 2 #18 October 28, 2005 hahaha....damn....now I deffinately getting one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #19 October 29, 2005 Quote Correction, you can fall 7mph and go 500mph forwards. It's awesome. Thats nothin. The sonic boom from an S-3 flight of mine earlier this year knocked out all the windows in Seattle. The DZ sent an F-99 fighter to get me but I kept outclimbing it. Had to come down after 27 minutes 'cause I couldn't hold my breath any longer at 85,000 feet. Thought I was pretty hot shit until Jim passed me in his V-1. Blew the fuckin booties off my Birdman.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #20 October 29, 2005 QuoteQuote Correction, you can fall 7mph and go 500mph forwards. It's awesome. Thats nothin. The sonic boom from an S-3 flight of mine earlier this year knocked out all the windows in Seattle. The DZ sent an F-99 fighter to get me but I kept outclimbing it. Had to come down after 27 minutes 'cause I couldn't hold my breath any longer at 85,000 feet. Thought I was pretty hot shit until Jim passed me in his V-1. Blew the fuckin booties off my Birdman. You mean that was you??? I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #21 October 29, 2005 You mean that was you??? Laugh *** Yep. I'd do it again but NAS Whidbey swore they'd shoot me down if I ever broke the sound barrier again. Besides, it took me almost two weeks pay to replace all those windows. Naturally without all that speed I can't generate enough lift to sustain a climb either. Now I'm working on standing up my no-canopy landings, I keep sliding so far that my shoes melt off and trip me. Good thing there's a fence at the end of the runway at Harvey Field to stop my slide too.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites