mccordia 74 #1 June 12, 2005 I was at the Dutch edition of the Red Bull AirRaces today (Airplane Aerobatics show/contest), and to my surprise, they started the show with a wingsuit demo. Ueli Gegenschatz jumped from a chopper at 3000 ft (with luve audio contact with the chopper over the PA system) and flew his wingsuit (Looked like an S-Fly) 'into town', opening at what seemed about 500 ft or so. Way smooth flight...really slow in terms of falling-speed, gently flying forward... There where about 70.000 people watching (big event) if I heard the announcer correctly. The crowd around me seemed more impressed with this wingsuit-demo then they did with the entire airshow that followed According to the announcer (Jack van Gelderen, a Dutch sports commentator) the jumper flying a Wing-Chute was only the start of the Aerobics show Who needs good information when you have people like him telling you all the details hahaha Way cool to see this.....for me it was the first time I actualy saw a wingsuit opening up-close from the ground...I'm used to seeing people open at 3000 ft (although a local DZ here doesn't even allow that anymore...4000ft+ pulls manditory if you jump a wingsuit)...seeing someone calmly start flying at my normal pull altitude, and continuing way low was mighty cool to see :)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #2 June 12, 2005 Very progressive, and I'm sure very exciting. Over here you still see skydiving Demos at airshows with big slow chutes, high openings, slow accurate landings. Banners, flags and smoke are what make it interesting but its still tame to what you see on the dropzone on any given day....... But you know what? The people still love it as much or more than most of the aircraft flight demos. Went to one just yesterday. A 2 pass 19 sequenced hop&pop due to overcast that was orginally planned to be High exit Rdub with smoke. Didn't matter the crowd still loved it probably best of all. The whole time I was spectating and trying to figure out how to do a 2-way downwind wingsuit jump with smoke and still have a respectable opening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #3 June 12, 2005 Quote Over here you still see skydiving Demos at airshows with big slow chutes, high openings, slow accurate landings. That's also the case in most Dutch skydiving demo's. 2500 ft is the lowest legal pull altitude here. But somehow Red Bull always manages to get clearence for these kind of 'stunts' (there have been some Red Bull low-pull demo's before, that also seemed to be 100% legal in terms of organisation) Maybe someone more into the Dutch rules (BVR) knows if this min. 2500 ft pull altitude is just KNVvL (Dutch USPA) regs, and arranging a NOTAM and city permits (and jumping 'outside' KNVvL) frees you from these regs? Or is 2500 ft min. opening altitude a general rule that applies to all skydiving actions? (Saskia? jij bent hier een goed in?)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #4 June 12, 2005 Such a jump would probably be classed as a "stunt" rather than a sport parachute decent so the normal rules do not apply. Next time I see Ueli I'll tell him off for pulling high BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #5 June 13, 2005 Was he using a BASE rig? Pulling that low on skydiving gear sounds super scary to me.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbla4024 0 #6 June 13, 2005 He used Perigee Pro last year when doing low flights in Alps. http://www.para-net.org/paramag/archives/n203/article/article.html Fido Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Costyn 1 #7 June 13, 2005 A friend of mine was there and snapped a pic of the wingsuit in flight (see attachment). Its not very detailed, unfortunately. I'm not sure what the zoom sequence on the insets is either. eye-home.net) McCordia, on the news they said there were 700,000 people on location: http://www.nu.nl/news/539767/12/Grote_belangstelling_voor_vliegrace_boven_Rotterdam.html Here's a bunch more pictures taken by various people attending (haven't found any more wingsuit pics though): http://www.dutchphotozone.com/viewtopic.php?t=19997 EDIT: actually, found some pics: http://dump.petervanwezel.nl/redbull/races/4.jpg http://home.hccnet.nl/chretienderonde/vlieg%20b.jpg Looks like the suit in the article pbla4024 posted. Clicky corrected link for that article: http://www.para-net.org/paramag/archives/n203/article/article.html Man, it'd be awesome if somehow we could organize a swooping contest and get that many people to come and watch. CheersCostyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #8 June 13, 2005 It's legal, because he's not a Dutch jumper and it's not a DZ, he doesn't have to follow KNVvL regs. Maybe he has to follow his OWN regs, but otherwise, no "hassle" like a minimum pull altitude, and rules against jumping a BASE rig out of an airplane/chopper.The BR and BVR are not "laws", you only abide by them if you want to keep your Dutch license. If something bad happens during one of these stunts (last time Felix opened very low above a crowd too) guess who'll take the blame though?! KNVvL. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
