Pull time with an S3

[Aviatrr 0]

It seems that there are many varying opinions on what the best deployment method is on an S3....full flight, full freefall, or somewhere in between...so I'm curious - what do all of you that are flying S3's do? Mine is coming in less than a week, and I'll be jumping it hopefully next weekend. I have not ever had any kinda of PC hesitation on my Classic, but I know the burble is much larger on the S3...though I thought the back deflector was supposed to give you a cleaner airstream for better deployments.

My rig has a 25"ZP PC, 100" bridle, and open corners for better deployments in flight. All but one of my deployments have been within 30 degrees of on heading, and most are perfectly on heading.

Mike

[TomAiello 26]

My strategy is:

BASE: Full Flight

Skydiving: Full Freefall (wings completely collapsed, falling straight down).

Never in between. If you search through this forum, you can find a thread in which Robert Pecnik posts saying that he thinks pitching midway between flight and freefall (in some kind of flare, or otherwise losing speed) is dangerous. Let me see if I can find it...

edit: here's one thread.

-- Tom Aiello

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[diablopilot 2]

My technique:

I deploy with everything closed, then as soon as I release the P/C I bring my knees down slightly (think style tuck or knee turns but both of course) and touch my ring covers. This closes all the flying surfaces, and gives me more vertical decent than horizontal (if that makes sense).

My gear:

Unmodified rig (Infinity) and Main d-bag. Standard length Pull-out bridle.

No problems (Knock on wood).

Went out a few weeks ago to play around and purposely did a short pull (extracted the P/C and dropped it - no throw) and left everything out (full flight) just to see what would happen. Well the P/C ended up smack dab in the middle of my back w/ the bridle streaming out behind me!

Watched over my shoulder for a few seconds, playing with very shallow turns watching the bridle "dance" and then thought "enough of this".

Dipped a shoulder slightly, and closed everything up like normal to get some airflow across my back, and presto, perfect deployment.

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[VectorBoy 0]

I Bring knees up like a style tuck to kill forward speed. While bringing my hands back to the center of the BOC, there is a lot of wing trailing edge to deal with so I find the center and move out from there.
Throw out and bring hands back in. By this time I've converted from a fast forward flight and I'm well off the hill and pretty much falling straight down.

On my classic I have deployed both in fall and in flight but the extra forward speed of the S3 can make the trap door effect very unpleasant.

[bodypilot1 0]

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Dipped a shoulder slightly, and closed everything up like normal to get some airflow across my back, and presto, perfect deployment.

Along with the pucker factor of 10 you know where!

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[TazDevil 0]

I modified my extraction system specifically for BirdMan jumps ... I made a stabilized D-bag with 9 foot bridle (pin to base of pilot) and 30" zero-p with plastic handle. I had been flying a GTi and using this system with a Crossfire 119. I deployed in every possible way (excluding something totally stupid) and had no problems to speak of ...
But in switching to a SkyFlyer 3, the increased forward speeds were making deployments on the scary side. I acquired a Triathlon 120 and am now using this with the same extraction system. I have an original Mirage G3 (no cut out corners). Now since having this Triathlon deployments are good. I don't slow down for a second.... full speed ahead, drop the finger holds and go for the pilot... less than 45 degree openings every time.

[leroydb 0]

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I made a stabilized D-bag with 9 foot bridle (pin to base of pilot)

do you mean the pin is pretty much near the bottom of the pilot chute?

if so, you are doing this so that the container is sure to be open before the pilot chute catches air?

I think this could be a problem.. Not an expert but could this be a cause of a horseshoe mal?

Leroy


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[TALONSKY 0]

I have about 50 jumps on my S3. I have been jumping an Infinity container with a 100” bridle/pilot chute from birdman with a Crossfire 129. I do not have the corners modified on my Infinity. At pull time(4000 AGL) I collapse all wings reach under the wings and make sure I have a firm grip on the pilot chute hacky. Then I throw out fairly hard to get it into clear air. The only problems I have come across are three different times I did not get a good grip on the hacky and threw out fairly lightly and ended up with a few line twist that I was able to kick out of.
Kirk

[TALONSKY 0]

A few months ago Manbird(Steve) borrowed my B rig an Eclipse container with a Crossfire2 130(no mod’s and standard bridle with 28” PC). He would collapse all wings for 500 feet then deploy and had great openings. The reason for the 500 feet collapse was due to the Eclipse container’s bottom corners are sewn up 1 – 2” toward the reserve so by bleeding off forward speed and going faster down allowed the d-bag better deployment.
Kirk

[TazDevil 0]

No the pin is not next to the pilot (pin to base of pilot) means there is 9' of bridle between the curve pin and the pilot ...