billvon 3,120 #1 October 14, 2003 OK, I've put ten jumps on my S3, and I am coming to the annoying conclusion that it's too tight. I had Jari measure me, figuring if anyone's going to get it right it's him. But: -the booties take most of my strength to get closed, and don't come near the bottoms of my foot in the back. At this rate the zippers won't last another 10 flights. -It's tight enough crotch-to-shoulder that it's sometimes painful to walk in the suit. -The front zippers will barely close. -The wing zippers won't completely close if I'm wearing gloves (which I always do) unless I take them off, zip the sleeves closed, and put the gloves back on. Once I do that they're hard to _unzip._ Not looking forward to sending this back, but I may have to. How tight _should_ it be? I assume these materials aren't going to stretch an appreciable amount. My Classic 1 (bought used) was a lot looser, and according to Kim G it was a good fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #2 October 14, 2003 I am not sure what a good fit is. I can tell you that when ordering my S3 I added alittle to all the dimensions from how my GTI was ordered. When I got my S3 it fits pretty tight. Now my GTI fit fine and I do not understand how my S3 fits tighter unless it is meant to be tight. I find it is easier to just sit down and put the leg straps on and zip up the legs then kind put the rest of the suit on. Unzipping under canopy took a little while to get down Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivanrockon 0 #3 October 14, 2003 Quote-It's tight enough crotch-to-shoulder that it's sometimes painful to walk in the suit. -the booties take most of my strength to get closed, and don't come near the bottoms of my foot in the back. Same here buddy, except my local dealer took the measurements. My suit got in last thursday, tried on without any rig and guess what....too tight on thighs and crotch to shoulder is tight enough that I can not bend to do or undo my booties. Talk to Jari already and I'm sending it back today to get it fixed (with 0 jumps on it ) Ivan "Rock On" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #4 October 14, 2003 Bill, the only thing I can tell you is to try and remember what you were wearing when you were measured. Are you wearing more clothes now than when you were measured? I have found that something as small as wearing different shoes can make the suit handle differently, especially if you go from say tennis shoes to hiking boots which have more sole. If it's too small then you need to address that problem and have it fixed otherwise your going to be uncomfortable and more than likely unhappy."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 October 14, 2003 Ok.. So I'm not the only one that thinks their S3 is tight. Mine is baggy and floppy in the legs, but across the leg straps and across the bottom of the rib cage its tight, and it seems to have a collar that is too long since when I zip the suit up I have to tilt my head back to avoid punching my self in the jaw since the zippers touch my chin. I also have the issue that my Alti wrist strap seems to make the arm cuff want to push off and leaves my wrists exposed. I'm not looking forward to that this winter. After I get the suit on and I pull material around and push it in certian spots and squirm in the suit it feels a lot better, but over all the top seems too tight and the legs are too loose.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #6 October 14, 2003 You could also take advantage of the size of your suit. A tighter suit will usually give you better forward speed and recovery after aerobatics will be more stable. A baggier suit will give you better lift. This is why I still love to put on my tighter GTi for hardcore aerobatics and my intentionally too big S3 for getting huge freefall times. I now kinda wish I had another tight S3 for getting a better glide ratio. I'll just get a tight version of whatever my next suit is. As far the wrist goes... ALWAYS add an inch to the measurement. Add another centimeter to the hand on which you wear your altimeter, which I'm assuming is your left hand."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 October 14, 2003 Well, I had Jari measure me for it and I told him I wanted it to cover the wrist strap. I'm just going to seek out something like a neoprene long glove and chop it up so it will cover my arm and wrist better.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #8 October 14, 2003 Having a baggier or looser suit is preferable to a tight suit. A tight suit will eventually fail somewhere due to the stress placed on seams, zippers, tabs etc. This is especially true when using DEMO suits. You want your personal suit to fit correctly and comfortably. I have flown a suit that was made for someone smaller than me and the difference in performance was noticable to me instantly. There is no benefit IMO to having a tight suit. When in the air and in the right body position the suit will become tight in the right places if it is fitted correctly and THAT is what is important."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #9 October 14, 2003 Or simply put... ADVANTAGES - Faster forward speed - Less chance of losing a bootie (especially in aerobatics) - Shows off how awesome your chest is (if it's already awesome) DISADVANTAGES - Comes apart sooner (I've seen this, too) - Increased chance of blowout on arms - Faster fall rate - More difficult to zip up - More difficult to remove booties"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 October 14, 2003 My GTi fits fairly loose as compared to my old SkyFlyer, but my S3 (measured by Kimmie G.) fits plenty loose as well. Only problem with loose fitting suits that I have experienced is loss of booties on outside float exits or Cessna exits. I have lost a bootie twice, but it was not a big deal in flight. At any rate, I hope you all get your suits correctly sized. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #11 October 15, 2003 I have a friend who just got his S3 which he ordered by giving Birdman the serial number of his GTi. He's sent it back too, it's really tight especially around the crotch and thighs. I wonder if they've changed how they're using the measurements? GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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