murrays 0 #1 September 24, 2003 I just received my new kill line throwout bridle that I bought to convert my old Racer to BOC for wingsuit jumps. Is the recommended bridle length 100 inches from pilot chute base to pin or 100 inches overall? Thanks,-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blair700 0 #2 September 24, 2003 Measure from the PC to the pin, 100" minimum. Later Blair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #3 September 24, 2003 Sure wish I had asked this earlier, I'll have to send it back and get a longer one. Thanks,-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #4 September 24, 2003 What's your body position when you're deploying? If you're closing everything up, scrubbing off the forward speed and building up some vertical speed then it might not be too much of an issue. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #5 September 24, 2003 This will be my first wingsuit jump. I plan on arching with legs together for a while to bleed off some forward speed, then pulling and bringing both arms back in to reduce the burble. The bridle that was made for me is 80" p/c to pin. Doesn't seem like much but I think I will get the recommended length just to ensure a safe skydive.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #6 September 24, 2003 QuoteSure wish I had asked this earlier, I'll have to send it back and get a longer one. Thanks, it isn't THAT critical... i jump with a standard bridle, have from jump # 1. The cut corners on the rig has made more of a difference than a bridle change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #7 September 24, 2003 I am getting ready to order my first Birman suit in 2-3 weeks. This week end I will be leaving my rig for my rigger to open the corners. I have one question on the long bridle. Has any of you guys ever experienced the longer bridle coming over the front of the canopy and wrappping around and A line? I had a drogue do that on a tandem jump one time, and it took a while to clear. How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #8 September 24, 2003 QuoteI am getting ready to order my first Birman suit in 2-3 weeks. This week end I will be leaving my rig for my rigger to open the corners. I have one question on the long bridle. Has any of you guys ever experienced the longer bridle coming over the front of the canopy and wrappping around and A line? I had a drogue do that on a tandem jump one time, and it took a while to clear. What type of rig do you have? If it is mirage, mirage has specific instructions for the rigger when modifying your pack tray for birdman. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blair700 0 #9 September 24, 2003 Johnny, I have a 100" bridle on a Mirage G3 and havn't experienced what your'e talking about...doesn't mean it can't happen, just hasn't to me. I think you have a Javelin?? You maybe able to send it to Sunpath for some dynamic corners, or if its a Mirage, Gus has the directions from the company, and has already measured and marked my container, he'll do some cutting for me this weekend, only takes a minute. Later Blair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimgriffin 0 #10 September 24, 2003 Hi Murray. I also did my first 100 or so WS jumps (Classic and Skyflyer) with a standard bridle. I had line twists around every 10th jump but nothing that was a big deal. One reason you pull high on WS jumps is to give you time to think and deal with an unexpected situations. I don't blame you for wanting a longer bridle, though. It can only help. Some riggers know how to extend bridles. I know a rigger/WS flyer in Zhills will modify the standard bridle to the recommended 100" for something like $20. "I plan on arching with legs together for a while to bleed off some forward speed, then pulling and bringing both arms back in to reduce the burble" When you arch before pulling don't kill your back - a super hard arch is overkill. Plus, remember to keep your legs extended during the pull. Have you gotten instruction or going to read the manual and go out on your own? Congrats and welcome to the flock in advance! ~Kim-Kimberly Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #11 September 25, 2003 QuoteHi Murray. I also did my first 100 or so WS jumps (Classic and Skyflyer) with a standard bridle. I had line twists around every 10th jump but nothing that was a big deal. One reason you pull high on WS jumps is to give you time to think and deal with an unexpected situations. I don't blame you for wanting a longer bridle, though. It can only help. Some riggers know how to extend bridles. I know a rigger/WS flyer in Zhills will modify the standard bridle to the recommended 100" for something like $20. "I plan on arching with legs together for a while to bleed off some forward speed, then pulling and bringing both arms back in to reduce the burble" When you arch before pulling don't kill your back - a super hard arch is overkill. Plus, remember to keep your legs extended during the pull. Have you gotten instruction or going to read the manual and go out on your own? Congrats and welcome to the flock in advance! ~Kim After realizing my mistake I called my rigger and he built me a new p/c with the longer bridle and I'm sending him back the one he made me. It was a standard one so he will just sell it or put it in a rig he builds. I just feel that I will put everything in my favour as much as I can. I just got back from another rigger friend's house and we converted my Racer to BOC from pull-out. So, equipment-wise I'm good to go when the new p/c arrives. Thanks for the advice on the legs Kim. I've read the manual and will do so again a couple more times before making a jump. Two of the guys at our dz did birdman jumps at Lost Prairie (and promptly ordered GTIs which still haven't arrived) and they have passed on the instructions that they got at LP. So, i don't feel like I'm doing this completely on my own. I'm really looking forward to making my first flight...but am also a bit puckered about it...but that's ok, it shows I'm approaching this with the respect it deserves. The suit arrived today from Skydive Deland. It fits like a glove...a pretty tight glove! I definitely won't be doing any cold weather jumping in it as there's no room for any extra clothes. I'm good to go if we get some jumpable weather up here...will let you all know how it goes. Thanks again everybody for all the advice and help.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
